Jace's Archivist

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2015 (C15) Rare
Commander 2013 (C13) Rare
2012 Core Set (M12) Rare

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Jace's Archivist

Creature — Vedalken Wizard

, : Each player discards his or her hand, then draws cards equal to the greatest number of cards a player discarded this way.

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Jace's Archivist Discussion

Kizder on You get a card! I get a card! We all get cards! ED

2 days ago

I will suggest Jace's Archivist as a nice wheel. And I like Forced Fruition, it doesn't make you draw but if you play Nekuzar or other cards that hurt opponents when they draw.

Otherwise, sadly but I'm sorry you cannot play Bringer of the Black Dawn, his color identity is WURBG.

NotASunBro on Kami of the Crescent Moon

2 days ago

I've made a similar deck, but with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind as the commander.

You could consider Minds Aglow , Gitaxian Probe , Dream Fracture , Psychic Spiral , Remand , Twincast , Jace's Archivist , and then Consecrated Sphinx for turning your group hug drawing into a self hug, and maybe Laboratory Maniac for the backup if you draw your whole deck.

Overall though, looks like a fun and solid deck! Goodluck :)

And here's My draw everything deck for reference.

lagotripha on Wizard Games

3 days ago

I actully like this setup. I agree that its a little unfocussed. I reccomned one change- A transformative sideboard rather than an 'answers' sideboard.

'Side 15' sounds like a bad joke, but 15 cards is enough to completely transform from tempo to control, and can transform bad matchups by drastically moving your critical turns. Even against matchups that 'demand' specific answers (dredge, tron), a lot can be done just by shifting the kind of deck that you are- tron has issues if you just combo out, dredge has issues if you run more bounce effects etc.

Even if you're siding in the same 15 cards each game, if you're removing 'dead' cards from your deck you are creating a big advantage. It really helps maintain that 'diverse' feeling with less performance impact.

Getting used to switching out different cards for different gameplans in that way will also help further refine your mainboard, by identifying cards you're always removing (or never enjoying) and spotting cards you're always reintroducing.

In terms of how that transformative board is structured, I'd hide a set of Geist of Saint Traft in there, (as a clock against high-interaction decks, which the wizard tribe is unfortunately lacking), and run spells that you're plainly considering maindeck- your wraths, extra bounce tools, and wizards. I'd even go so far as to hide a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir/Knowledge Pool lock as a 2-of, or run Vedalken AEthermage for wizardcycling to fetch a similar low-key combo. Augur of Bolas is also well worth a look,while less efficient that snappy, and sorcery speed, works wonders as extra functional copies.

Also, for fun, flavour-filled cards with various viability; (with some synergy!) check out Fatespinner, Glen Elendra Pranksters, Jace's Archivist Lullmage Mentor Meddling Mage Mistbind Clique Mistmeadow Witch Mizzium Meddler, Naban, Dean of Iteration Sage of Fables Sigil Tracer Simic Manipulator Spellstutter Sprite Talrand, Sky Summoner Timestream Navigator Treasure Mage Venser, Shaper Savant and Voidmage Prodigy.

qao50 on Mill and recreate

4 days ago

Removed:

1x Hover Barrier - Not a huge fan of defenders in decks as they usually stall out the game rather than add value.

1x Dreadwaters - not the most milling. if you had a higher land curve id say its fine.

1x Fog Bank - same as Hover Barrier

1x Returned Centaur - Not too useful as a creature, essentially paying 4 mana to mill four cards which you can get better value for.

1x Sidisi's Faithful - your deck isnt revolved around sacrificing and I dont think you have enough cards that you'd be okay with sacrificing for this to be viable.

1x Sigiled Starfish - Scrying is cool and useful, but once again more value can be added to this deck.

1x Wall of Frost - same as Hover Barrier

1x Wight of Precinct Six - Better options.

1x Mind Sculpt - In edh a one-use 7 mill card isn't worth. Every card should add good value.

1x Paranoid Delusions - If this deck revolved around unblockable attacking this would be good, but since it doesn't it's just a 3 mill card.

1x Reave Soul - This could also stay in, but most threats in edh are generally above three and this being a sorcery hurts its value.

1x Tormented Thoughts - Again, you don't have creatures to sacrifice, so I wouldn't use sacrificing as a function in this deck.

1x Chronic Flooding - This can be a good card if someone is mana starved, but more often than not it's gonna just make that one land go unused.

1x Macabre Waltz - Not the strongest way to get back creatures, getting them onto the battlefield is a more efficient use of your mana.

Addition:

1x Duskmantle Guildmage - can generate mill when you need and can combo with the first effect to do a LOT of damage.

1x Jace's Archivist - Drawing aspect, gets cards in graveyard, can give you a new hand. Great card.

1x Mortivore - this is Wight of Precinct Six on crack. Plus you can regenerate him.

1x Notion Thief - I'm almost mad I'm including this but this is busted. unfortunately, it'll probably get killed all the time.

1x Psychic Spiral - A lot of Mill potential.

1x Talent of the Telepath - seven mill and you get to steal one or two spells.

1x Diabolic Tutor - can never have enough tutors.

1x Mindcrank - This can honestly win the game.

1x Life's Finale - Board wipes are always nice.

1x Stolen Identity - Copying shit is nice, but the cipher is what makes this so good.

1x Manic Scribe - Not the strongest but can be nice. assuming its later in the game, four card types should be in the graveyard so thats 3 mill every upkeep.

1x Traumatize - Fuck this card.

1x Soul Manipulation - counter that also mills.

1x Whispering Madness - spell version of Jace's Archivist.

1x Startled Awake  Flip - 13 mill that can keep coming back.

1x Body Double - could probably get a better card to replace this. but late game when graveyards are fat this can come in handy.

1x Dimir Doppelganger - since you'll play other people who use graveyards, you can exile creatures from graveyards to make them unusable, while still getting your use.

Cards you can keep but I personally dont like in the deck:

Omniscience - omniscience is op and I get why you'd want it but your mana curve is pretty low and it costs so much that I doubt youd get it out and make use of it.

Altar of the Brood - I dont know how this plays in games, but you're not getting out a lot of permanents so i dont see how this works too well.

Gravepurge - this lets you get back any creature into your hand, which is good, but you could just get a card that puts it back onto the battlefield.

Thoughtscour - this is realistically just a draw card.

Ultimate Price - that monocolor restriction holds this card back so much. Doom Blade would be better if you want it to be a low price.

Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver - I dont know how to feel about this, the exile feature kinda messes with your use from the graveyard style but you can use the second effect to get some of the creatures. It puts all of those exiled cards into a world only he can interact with which makes him good and useful, but limits your decks synergy.

Animate Dead - theres a lot of revive from graveyard cards in this deck is all im gonna say. maybe too many.

Curse of the Bloody Tome - this is helpful and makes sure someones getting milled which is good, but two an upkeep isnt very strong.

Sands of Delirium - not bad and gives you ability to mill every turn, but this is only usable when you can't do anything since you need to have disposable mana.

Cards that should be abused more:

Sphinx's Tutelage - if you make your deck able to draw more this card can be ridiculously op.

Broken Cards you can add (may be Expensive):

Lich Lord of Unx and Undead Alchemist - are both great but you'd have to turn your deck into a zombie deck and it would make you rely less on other graveyards. I dont think relying on other graveyards is good. this could also add a sacrifice element and you could use cards like Altar of Dementia. - overhauling to a zombie deck would be expensive but i think it'd be really effective.

Tunnel Vision - this could be dumb busted, i saw a combo of if you have a card that lets you put on the bottom of someones library then use this you immediately mill them out. That's gay tho dont do that.

Trepanation Blade - this is some nice mill and adds damage and attack to a possibility of your deck.

Extractor Demon - you'd need to run zombies.

Dralnu, Lich Lord - i hate to say it but zombies is looking like the way to go. get more effectiveness out of your spells.

Phenax, God of Deception - if you want your deck to be less based around mill and more just blue black interactions this dude's good. can make a defender deck worthwhile. probably the best consistent mill card I've seen.

Havengul Lich - cast creatures from ALL graveyards. shit i might buy this guy.

Sewer Nemesis - good

Decree of Pain - boardwipes are op

Mythos242 on Muldrotha the Unyielding Graveyard

2 weeks ago

What about Jace's Erasure which let you draw 2 Cards each turn... it's a Rhystic Study with less CMC and much cheaper in price. Additionally I would recommend Hedron Archive for early Ramp and Carddraw in the lategame when you have enough mana to spare. Deranged Assistant and Millikin let you "draw" cards and ramp you early to get Muldrotha way earlier.

I would in fact think about playing no instants or sorceries at all to get more value out of your commander and nearly every instant or sorcery effect is now available on a permanent type - maybe sometimes not that good but good enough to want to abuse it.

Another card i would change would be Shriekmaw... Cards like Ravenous Chupacabra or Noxious Gearhulk dont have any restrictions and Gearhulk also gives you life and can hit enemies hard due to Menace. In commander, usually played as multiplayer, I think it is more important to be able to hit as many threats as possible. And I live and play EDH in the sense of "think BIG"... so I would pay 2 CMC more every day for the chance to hit that nasty Sheoldred or Grave Titan.

And one of the most underrated card-draw cards for Muldrotha imo is Jace's Archivist. It gives you alot of value and also cripples our enemies by letting them discard their precious cards they just tutored or drew...In my opinion much better and usefull in that deck than Fact or Fiction or Vessel of Nascency

GeeksterPlays on Best tap abilities in bant ...

3 weeks ago

Stonybrook Schoolmaster is busted with untap/tap triggers.

Jace's Archivist

Not Unblockable but Archetype of Imagination basically gives you that, barring creatures with Reach.

One of my most key pieces for my Derevi deck is Yisan, the Wanderer Bard. Tutors up through your creature chain and can easily get you 2+ creatures in one turn with one 1 or 2 untap triggers needed.

cdkime on Jace's Archivist vs sorcery speed

3 weeks ago

Like many activated abilities, Jace's Archivist can be activated at instant speed. But instant speed does not mean you can play a card whenever you wish--you can only play instant speed cards whenever you have priority.

As the active player on his turn, your opponent has priority. You have to wait until they pass priority before you can play anything. There are a couple of times where they've passed priority--the most important being when they cast a spell and when they declare they are done with a given step or phase.

So, here's how it works for your above example:

Your opponent enters their first main phase; they have priority, you cannot activate Jace's Archivist as you lack priority. As such, they are free to cast their Corrupted Conscience before you would be afforded the opportunity to empty their hand with Jace's Archivist.

But what happens once he casts Corrupted Conscience? Once a card is cast, it goes on the stack, which is a zone distinct from your hand. You can activate Jace's Archivist, but Corrupted Conscience is no longer in your opponent's hand, and therefore will not be discarded (though the remainder of your opponent's hand shall be). As such, you cannot use Jace's Archivist to stop a sorcery that has already been cast.

Boza on Jace's Archivist vs sorcery speed

3 weeks ago

Yes, you can do that. Neither Mairsil, nor Jace's Archivist have any timing restrictions on their abilities, so you can do them any time you could cast an instant.

However, you are mistaken if you think that would disrupt the casting of Corrupted Conscience in any way. By the time you are able to respond to the spell, the spell would be already on the stack and would be unaffected by Jace's Archivist's ability.

If you want to get rid of your opponents spell before they cast a powerful sorcery with Archivist, you have to be proactive - use the ability during their upkeep or draw phase.

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