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Jace's Archivist Discussion
4 days ago
Hi! Sorry it took me a while to get back to you, my job has been super busy.
This deck is...odd (not in a bad way). I'm going to be as cutthroat as possible here, since it's listed as competitive :)
I definitely see the influence of my The Locust God deck - you chose the same counterspell suite as I did, have a similar Paradox Engine line of play, use the same rocks, etc. And yet, there are some strange choices for a competitive deck - relatively little interaction, several 4+ mana spells that do very little when they come down, and a lack of hard draw.
Nature's Lore and/or Three Visits over Kodama's Reach, Windfall over (or in addition to) Time Reversal. Cutting Mindbreak Trap for Arcane Denial, unless your meta is REALLY storm-heavy. Sylvan Library over (or in addition to) Mirri's Guile. Since you're in green, you have access to some strong mana dorks that work well with Paradox Engine (or just as early ramp), particularly Birds of Paradise and Bloom Tender. I'd personally argue for Bear Umbra over Nature's Will, since it also protects the creature in question, but it sorta depends on the amount of exiling removal in your meta. You're not running Necropotence, and you should fix that. I would almost certainly run Dramatic Reversal/Isochron Scepter in here - each half is really good alone, and it gives you an infinite storm count together. In terms of removal, Nature's Claim is the biggest thing I feel you're missing, since you have very little interaction to deal with hate pieces that you go up against. An argument could be made for adding Deadeye Navigator to pair with your Palinchron/Peregrine Drake, and cards like Tooth and Nail/Defense of the Heart to find them, but I don't feel that's a great use of slots in the current list. Jace's Archivist is far better than Arcanis the Omnipotent in this deck.
My first cuts would absolutely be any card at CMC 5 or greater, unless it essentially immediately wins you the game. I would remove Berserkers' Onslaught, Consuming Aberration, Peregrine Drake, Treachery, and Arcanis the Omnipotent immediately.
If I may ask, why use Yidris for this if you could use something like Kess in the command zone instead? It seems like you aren't doing too much with green in the deck, and relying on connecting with Yidris seems...unreliable. In a competitive deck, you'd want to be winning on T4 most games, which makes casting Yidris at that point a bad proposition (especially since most strong mana rocks can't help you cast him, given that his mana cost involves no colorless mana).
I hope this helps as a preliminary look! I can come back and offer more thoughts when I have a few more minutes to think about it :)
1 week ago
You definitely need to add some boardwipes, I only see the disk.
Maybe add these cards:
Panharmonicon if you go with an etb theme
Manglehorn make mana rocks come in tapped
Reclamation Sage etb removal
Eternal Witness expensive but on theme
Viscera Seer cheap, sac to scry not bad, especially if you want to reuse a creature for an etb effect
Satyr Wayfinder self mill
Sylvan Safekeeper SUPER good for protecting your big bois
Tatyova, Benthic Druid great if you're going for a landfall subtheme
Yavimaya Elder good for mana fixing
Coiling Oracle once you start playing from graveyard, essentially a draw spell
Meren of Clan Nel Toth with a sac theme, could be a good secret commander
Yahenni, Undying Partisan sac outlet
Wood Elves good ramp outlet once you start recurring
Archaeomancer good way to get back your non-permanents if you run self mill/wheels
Hermit Druid self mill
Maybe take out these cards:
Baleful Strix not a lot of utility unless you just need flying blockers
Notion Thief it will certainly be in the graveyard at some point, but flash is what it makes it so good; also no guarantee you'll have Whispering Madness to cast with it; you have several tutors though so maybe you could get it off
Sheltering Ancient buffs your opponent's creatures if I understand correctly; you'll have to buff at least one creature to even attack with this
Shriekmaw a little too specific about removal
Abrupt Decay cmc might be too low to use in some cases
2 weeks ago
(I don't really know how competitive you are trying to make this deck. Right now, it looks like you are running a lot of coll, spicy, fun cards! If your intent is to try out splashy mythics and game warping bombs, you should totally do it! I personally love playing a planeswalker tribal deck with Muldrotha, using Inexorable Tide to ult them quickly. However, for the sake of this comment, I'm going to be looking from the perspective of trying to make a more streamlined, synergistic deck.) Welp I'm a little late, but here are my thoughts on Muldrotha:
The Mending of Dominaria is kinda a non-bo with the rest of your deck. Its recursion isn't that strong, as Muldrotha can get back creatures and play lands, and then it shuffles away your bin. If this is meant to be a safety in in case you run out of cards (I notice there is no Laboratory Maniac, IDK if that's on purpose, so I'll assume you plan to win in a fair way.), then Elixir of Immortality should be enough. (Usually, people won't be trying to exile this.)
I notice you are running both Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation. While individually powerful, they are also kinda non-bos with Muldrotha, as she will still only allow you to play from the bin on your turn. Generally, you'd rather maximize your recursion value each turn than hold up an instant speed creature. (Planning around having Seedborn Muse is too much work for not a huge reward, as you still can't play from the bin.)
There are several big dudes in this list, namely Vorosh, the Hunter, Void Winnower, Archfiend of Despair, and Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar. While they are all pretty good at ending games, none of them have much synergy with graveyard decks (Multani's is a little loose, as "BIG DOOD" doesn't usually kill people very well when you look at the other, more potent threats in this format.). My personal favorite of these is Void Winnower, as it nulls 1/2 of your opponents' spells, and win very quickly. While these are certainly not bad cards, big fatties aren't as good when against three players worth of removal.
Hoo boy, is Kamahl's Druidic Vow a card I never thought I'd see in a deck. Currently, you have around 16 legendary permanents, with an average CMC of roughly 5. That means to get even an okay druidic vow, you have to spend at least 7 mana. 7 mana to get ~1 legendary permanent, ~2 lands, and then to bin ~2 other cards really just isn't that great, especially compared to Genesis Wave.
The last two cards that I think might be a little sketchy are Jace Beleren and Damia, Sage of Stone. Both are fun cards, and very good, but again, don't seem to help your deck too much. I assume your reasoning for Jace was that you would mill yourself with him, but he has to survive for FOUR turn cycles before you can ult him, simply milling for twenty. Jace, Memory Adept does pretty much everything Jace Beleren does, but faster. In that four turn cycle, he could have milled almost half your deck, or drawn just you four cards and milled you for four, etc. Damia is a lot closer to being really good for this deck. She allows you to refill if your bin gets wiped a la Rest in Peace or something similar, and can solidify your winning position. However, I ultimately think that Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur does all that but better. By the stage in the game that they're relevant, mana cost shouldn't really matter too much.
Now to cards worth considering: 1. Perpetual Timepiece. 100000%. This card is repeatable mill and protection for 2 mana. It's pretty much an invaluable asset to Muldrotha decks. 2. Caustic Caterpillar. I see that you took this card out from theoriginal list, and if that was do to yuor meta/playgroup not having a heavy reliance on artifacts/enchantments, then ignore this. But most commander decks do care about them, and the overlap between it and Seal of Primordium is totally okay. 3. Pernicious Deed. This card can, admittedly, be a little awkward sometimes, as you often want to keep your support permanents around, but a repeatable board wipe like this is still very strong. 4. Sakura-Tribe Elder. This card is stupid in Muldrotha. I've had all the basics out of my deck before some of my opponents could even play their commanders. I don't think there's any reason not to run it. 5. Kiora, the Crashing Wave. She ramps, draws cards, is effectively removal, and her ult can win the game. Nuff said. (really though, she's very good, and great for early game when Muldrotha deck struggle to get off the ground with their 6-CMC general) 6. Ramunap Excavator or Crucible of Worlds. Now this is a bit of a controversial one. I'm still not entirely sure that they are worth it, but have found good results with the excavator. Basically, regardless of how many lands you can play for turn, Muldrotha will only let you play ONE from the bin (NOTE: Muldrotha won't let you play an extra land each turn (one from hand, one from bin)). So Ramunap Excavator +Azusa, Lost but Seeking will let you play three from the bin each turn, and pretty soon you have 20-someting lands on the field. Again, just something to consider, they are definitely still undergoing testing.
MEAN STUFF: Discalimer: These cards are often, to some degree, good at making the game less fun for everyone else, and sometimes you too. If you have a specific playgroup, I recommend asking how people feel about these cards first, so as to avoid uncomfortable situations of salt and dejectedness. All right, you've been warned, now, in no particular order, the mean stuff: 1. Glacial Chasm. This card with Muldrotha makes you nigh-invincible, at least to damage. (Loss of life/ "win the game" cards will still get you). Often, this card isn't perceived to badly, as most decks run some way of dealing with lands, but to a more casual player with a heavily creature-based deck, this might be upright cruel. 2. Possessed Portal. This may look like an awful card, but trust me, this is pretty good at locking people out of the game, especially with Jace's Archivist. Just make sure you have a way to survive under it! 3. Bottomless Pit. For you, pitching cards doesn't really matter (early on it might a little, but usually far less than it does for other decks.) This is good at shutting down just about any deck trying to do fancy things. 4. Oppression. This card is very well named. Often filling a similar role to bottomless pit, Oppression eats away at players, effectively halving the number of cards they can play. Except for you, of course. 5. Stasis+Claws of Gix. Claws is arguably worth including without stasis, as a sac outlet that can sac anything, but with Stasis, slaws will just lock every opponent out of the game. this is a reliable two-card combo, that requires only 3 mana, and Muldrotha to be out. However, Stasis is pretty much unplayable without Claws of Gix, so when you do play it, you basically just win, meaning that you often don't really get to "play" with stasis. 6. Smokestack. The namesake of the "Stax" archetype, Smokestack can very quickly turn a fun game of magical cards into a vicious game of french revolution, with you as the monarch. Smokestack does, I feel, get a little too much hate, as it takes several turns to really do anything. But it can quickly turn the game in your favor when you just play back everything you just sacrificed.
And that's it! I love Muldrotha decks, and how many ways there are to build them. There's not really any way to make them wrong, so keep trying new things out! I apologize for this little wall of text, but hopefully some of it is useful.
3 weeks ago
Thanks Beebles! I know, my deck probably lacks a bit on the card draw department and also on ramp (To me it seemed ok, since I have few cards costing more than 5 mana). I'll look out for it.
Crown of Doom is really of no use in a mill sense, but certainly moves mana and attention away from me. What I'm trying to do is act as if I'm still not a threat and then blow everyone out, though I might reconsider it. Kindof Pillow Fort if you will.
I tried to put as little wheel cards as possible, just because I've already got a friend in my group that runs a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder tribal wheel. The only wheel present here is Jace's Archivist, because can buy me a fresh hand of cards when I want or mill and can be used multiple times.
I'm considering adding more boardwipes, though my general strategy on spot removal is just kindof don't worrying about it. I can just let the big guys at the table chunk each other, while I set up and then mill them out.
I own an Altar of the Brood, but it doesn't fit much, since I don't put many permanents on the field each turn and if I draw it lategame is basically a dead draw. I think it could be a much more effective card in combo decks like Breya, Etherium Shaper or Sharuum the Hegemon when they start an infinite enter/exit the battlefield combo. On the other hand, I like Memory Erosion much more, because comes out as if my opponents are milling themselves out.
About Isolation Tower and Arcane Lighthouse, I think they are great ways to answer opponents, but, again, in my playgroup there are like 6 cards over 11 decks that have hexproof. Much like Sadistic Sacrament, those two lands are cards I don't need to run, but that should definitely fit in for a more competitive environment.
4 weeks ago
walruscustard, I had completely forgotten about Kami of the Crescent Moon and Arcane Denial, so thanks for reminding me about them! Secondly, the reason Jace's Archivist and Windfall are not in the deck is mostly because I originally wanted to win mainly with One with Nothing, Megrim and Hive Mind so I left them out. However, after some time playing with the deck, that combo is not all the feasible, so I would quite like having them in. I would just like to know what you recommend to take out for them.
4 weeks ago
Go for the Throat
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
Wrexial, the Risen Deep
Thaumatic Compass Flip
Nemesis of Reason
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Szadek, Lord of Secrets
Startled Awake Flip
4 weeks ago
is Kami of the Crescent Moon too slow? Your 2 slot's looking a bit shallow so he seems to be a good on-curve card that fits your theme. Windfall is another nice budget addition that can speed up your game or finish out a combo. Jace's Archivist is the slower, Grey Ogre-y version of the same effect. Surprised Arcane Denial isn't in there either. Too many turns where you need to tap out?
1 month ago
Though honestly Mirror Gallery is only needed for about half the creatures I run, and the deck can more than function off of cloning just about any creatures. Getting to clone or Rite of Replication a Phyrexian Metamorph, Jace's Archivist, Master of the Feast, Fate Unraveler, or god forbid a Clever Impersonator could easily yeild equal results as hitting Nekusar with it when Mirror Gallery is out.