Eidolon of Rhetoric


Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Hero Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Heirloom Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Journey into Nyx (JOU) Uncommon

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Eidolon of Rhetoric

Enchantment Creature — Spirit

Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn. 

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Eidolon of Rhetoric Discussion

PartyJ on Sisay has the answers | cEDH | Primer v2.0

1 week ago

After a night of playtesting I have seen that the combo routes proved to be very brutal. In our meta, where lots of disruption is eminent, it is vital to take the lead (ramp package present) and stax your opponents the moment your first infinite route goes disrupted. With this package you buy time to re-order your pieces and retry for a second infinite loop. Recurring from being countered/controlled is also included in the package.

However, I feel there is always room to grow. These are the cuts I made for a new round of testing:



Looking forward to a next EDH night! Let me know if you got some ideas. I want to go brutal 2.0....

Winterblast on Zur Esper Control

1 week ago

Spirit of the Labyrinth is too strong to not play imo. Even better would be Chains of Mephistopheles, the antisynergy with cantrips isn't that problematic when you consider it in deckbuilding and playing...on top of that Rule of Law, Arcane Laboratory and/or Eidolon of Rhetoric are really strong choices for a control Zur.

We have a control Zur in our local playgroup, if you want to compare:

Stephans Zur v 3.0

Commander / EDH* w00x


It's in the tuning process, so not finished at all, but it already works fine. While Zur is a great engine, you shouldn't rely on him too much and you also won't need too many targets because being able to search two or three turns in a row must already be enough...you can't really expect to get more uses from the commander because everyone knows that letting Zur attack isn't a trick.

As for a win con, Rest in Peace/Leyline of the Void and Helm of Obedience is a solid choice for Zur because you can search for RIP with him.

Alphamew17 on Abzan Sagas

1 week ago

lazarus923 I def agree with replacing pilgrim for heirarch, and i have Stony Silence in the sideboard right now. Eidolon of Rhetoric would make for another good sideboard card, but what would you suggest removing for Renegade Rallier? He seems like he'd be useful for both reviving mana dorks and recurring fetches, but I'm not certain what would would be worth removing.

lazarus923 on Abzan Sagas

1 week ago

If you have any sort of green + white or blue and want mana dorks i'd def say put in Noble Hierarch aside from birds. So I'd say remove [Avacyn's Pilgrim] for Noble Hierarch

other card reccomendations: Qasali Pridemage Renegade Rallier Kitchen Finks Eidolon of Rhetoric Stony Silence

Burhan on Orzhov Enchantment Constellation

3 weeks ago

Two copies of Athreos, God of Passage would benefit your deck greatly. You could also include Erebos, God of death.

You miss some one mana creature drops, Hopeful Eidolon could fill in this niche. Also, remove Stab Wound for 4 copies of Ethereal Armor, it does wonders in enchantment heavy decks. Plus, you need something to pump your creatures up to swing for lethal or at least put pressure.

A good sideboard card would be Eidolon of Rhetoric, a very fitting card against storm decks.

I don't know how to feel about Master of the Feast without Fate Unraveler, especially 4 copies of this gluttonous demon. If you want a flying enchantment demon that badly I would recommend Herald of Torment.

I like this deck! My recommendations, especially Athreos, God of Passage and Ethereal Armor would give this deck more of a competitive edge. +1

vaelran on Budget Spirits

3 weeks ago

Big fan of Spirit tribal, your list looks good however running 4 copies of Selfless Spirit (and your creature count in general) without any draw power can cause them to clog up your hand.

Some card ideas to think about;

Opt - Quicken + Serum Visions Easy to fit in 1 mana spells to help you draw/scry.

Nikko-Onna - Windborn Muse Good sideboard options against enchantment and token heavy lists.

Aether Vial + Eidolon of Rhetoric If you can manage the budget for this, these two cards work really well together and can give you the option of going 3 mana heavy spirits (which is the majority of your creature list).

What do you think and if you need any other options let me know!

thewyzman on Mayael EDH Primer

1 month ago

Also, since so many decks straight-up out-tempo Mayael, i'm tinkering with a build with cards like Eidolon of Rhetoric and Sphere of Safety, to go ALONG with Iona, Shield of Emeria, Dragonlord Dromoka, Void Winnower, and Grand Abolisher. I guess I would rather my deck just be faster and more consistent, but slowing the table down seems to help me keep pace. A number of my fellow players are CEDH players, and it seems there are several competitive decks that are effective using a stax-style. Personally, I'm just trying to find a build strategy that works, and this primer is quite inspiring when I feel like getting back to the basics.

Because of how big and vulnerable my board gets I also run Saffi Eriksdotter and Dauntless Escort to compliment Avacyn and Spearbreaker Behemoth.

No Wayward Swordtooth in the list?

SynergyBuild on To Hell and Back

1 month ago

I think you may want of have a copy of Natural State in this deck, as it hits the main two worst stax pieces for the combo, Sphere of Resistance and Torpor Orb, as well as Damping Matrix, but no one runs Damping Matrix. If you see some Blood Pod, though it won't hit Pod, it does work against many of their cards from Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric to some of the prior mentioned stax pieces, all at instant speed for a single .

I would most likely drop Thought Scour, because that card is the worst cantrip in the deck and only really is useful for Laboratory Maniac.

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