Eidolon of Rhetoric


Format Legality
Noble Legal
Hero Legal
Heirloom Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Journey into Nyx Uncommon

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Eidolon of Rhetoric

Enchantment Creature — Spirit

Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.

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Eidolon of Rhetoric Discussion

SaberTech on Daxos the Terminator

4 days ago

Looking through the hatebears you have right now; Containment Priest can prevent you from bringing enchantment creatures back with Replenish, Eidolon of Rhetoric stops your Bomberman combo, and Spirit of the Labyrinth conflicts with Phyrexian Arena.

You already have Contamination that you can sac hatebears to if you need them out of the way, but it might be worth running High Market as another sac outlet in case your own hatebears start causing you grief.

SaberTech on Daxos the Terminator

5 days ago

Don't Rule of Law and Eidolon of Rhetoric shut down your game plan of winning with Bomberman combo?

Any aura that can return itself to the hand, like Flickering Ward, in conjunction with the extort from Blind Obedience and the infinite mana from bomberman is another game winning combo if Daxos has been shut down by cards like Phyrexian Revoker or something. There's always Exsanguinate as well.

Ohthenoises on Daxos the Terminator

5 days ago

Buried Alive for Eidolon of Rhetoric, Spirit of the Labyrinth, and Grim Guardian and then Replenishing them would induce many lols. (Agent of Erebos too I suppose)

The salt would flow.

Thoughts on the -1/-1 guy as well? Doomwake Giant? Him + Replenish is a little silly, maybe too jank (probably) but I could see it to wipe dorks and utility creatures. It would wreck Yisan hard for sure.

WiltLeafElves on Why are Elves so sELFish?

6 days ago

Casting on their endstep or anytime you have priority and your opponent is tapped out isn't defensive, it's just not casting your collected company unless you need to. If an opponent has a counterspell, they will try to stop coco, so casting it whenever they're tapped out is better than losing it to a Spell Pierce. I disagree on the sideboard, as elves have a lot of options by using silver bullets. Spellskite and Scavenging Ooze are easily found with coco and chord, and adding black lets you play Thoughtseize. Phyrexian revoker is a chord-able Pithing Needle on a stick.

There is actually an elf with graveyard hate, Deathrite Shaman. its merely banned in modern.

Try watching every elf deck in feature matches. Common sideboards you'll see are Burrenton Forge-Tender <, Fracturing Gust, Thoughtseize, Spellskite <, Scavenging Ooze < , Abrupt Decay, Kitchen Finks, Kataki, War's Wage <, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Elvish Champion, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Stony Silence, Rest in Peace, &c. I don't mean to sound imperious, or bothersome, but you may want to change your sideboard, as it seems to be directed against flyers. That is fine, but since you have 15 cards against multitudes of decks, you really shouldn't spend more than 2 cards against one thing. Your Lys Alana Bowmaster is all you need against flying, the other cards get in the way and cause you to have less bowmaster triggers.

By the way, your example of throne of the god pharaoh sounds more like winning just from shaman of the pack, your example didn't include throne at all. Including heritage druid lets you win earliest on turn 3, while throne seems much better as a sideboard, or in a deck made to easily tap out all their creatures. of your 33 creatures, only 11 of them are able to tap for mana. That means most of the life your opponent loses from throne comes from you attacking, and not tapping for mana (unless you don't plan for throne to make your opponent lose much life.

TL;DR: If you want, here's a for sideboards (as well as many elf strategies in general), but really, the best guide is just testing out cards yourself. I can't tell you how many times Prowess of the Fair has saved me from boardwipes, kataki from just about any artifact loving deck.

EpicDermis on Enchanting the Enchanter

1 week ago

This is Bean.

Budget Suggestions:

More expensive options, or later upgrades to the deck:

NV_1980 on Stopping Power!

1 week ago

Hi DarkRequiem,

Thanks for your comments; I appreciate it. I also very much appreciate that you mention the cuts you'd make for replacements. I think you have a point about Crystal Chimes and Lightning Greaves; I'll make the swaps you suggest and see how that goes. The Sanctum and Tutor are currently both outside my price range; but of course I'll keep them in mind.

Primarily, this deck isn't about tokens. However Anointed Procession has been key in several of my recent victories so I'm reluctant to remove it. The fact that I don't have that many token generators is in a sense compensated for the many tutors I have in this deck to find some; should the need arise.

I'm probably going to add an Eidolon of Rhetoric in the near future; I'm very fond of Rule of Law too. Just need to get one first :) As for Spirit of the Labyrinth in favor of either of the draw-damage enchantments ... no. It restricts my own draw too and that can be severely unhelpful. One spell per turn I can live with (after all, I can just generate Daxos tokes), but one draw per turn; that's harder to cope with.

DarkRequiem on Stopping Power!

1 week ago

I there. I'd keep Crystal Chimes for a. redundancy and b. Sun Titan. Although Replenish is far better, it is only 1 in 99. And can't be re-used. The Chimes can with your build. I'd play both. I'd easily take out Bastion Protector since although great, it doesn't seem to have great synergy in this deck (now if we were talking about cards that allow you to gain permanent control of your opponent's creatures -cof-Helm of Possession + tokes-cof- that'd be a different story).

If you still feel like a big spender, Serra's Sanctum is for you. ;) Swap for any basic land.

Why aren't you running Idyllic Tutor? I'd remove Skybind. A bit underwhelming with the low amount of non-enchantment permanents you have that have etb effects.

Why Anointed Procession? You don't play a token deck. Yes, yes, you have some cards that generate tokens... What? 5 cards? How often will it get you any significant amount of tokens? If you were to add Mobilization and/or Sacred Mesa... I know you want to maximize the token production from your commander, but is that slot really worth it?I might remove it and add Blind Extortion instead. It adds consistency to Authority of the Consuls.

You don't seem to be forcing players to draw cards either. It might be a meta thing, granted. But I'd remove Underworld Dreams and Fate Unraveler. Eidolon of Rhetoric would go great with your Rule of Law. Spirit of the Labyrinth would be great too, adding a bit more to the anti-drawing effect. True, you're not hurting your opponent's, but you're not letting them draw too much nor capitalize from their possible massive draws.

Shielded by Faith is fun, no doubt. But wouldn't Lightning Greaves be better? To me shroud's better than indestructible...

I think that's it for now.

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