Eidolon of Rhetoric

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Hero Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Heirloom Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Custom Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Journey into Nyx (JOU) Uncommon

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Eidolon of Rhetoric

Enchantment Creature — Spirit

Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn. 

Eidolon of Rhetoric Discussion

Sarkhan420X on Golos & Rule of Law

20 hours ago

"play" means "cast as a spell, or put into play as a land". Rule of Law and Eidolon of Rhetoric would both stop you from playing any more than 1 of the cards exiled by Golos, Tireless Pilgrim . and thats if you haven't cast any other spells that turn.

zigkid3 on Golos & Rule of Law

20 hours ago

So it's my understanding that "Play" for Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is interchangeable with casting. (from a previous conversation about another similar card I had). So cards played using his activated ability would get cast triggers such as eldrazi or cascade.

But, my question is, will cards like Rule of Law or Eidolon of Rhetoric stop Golos, Tireless Pilgrim 's ability? If so, how? what would happen?

SideBae on Oloro Life A Plenty

23 hours ago

I've always liked Oloro, Ageless Ascetic -- he was my first general.

One card I've always liked for Oloro is Zur's Weirding . With the constant life-gain from Oloro, Zur's Weirding can hold down an advantage like nothing else.

I've always thought Path to Exile is way overrated in EDH. Swords to Plowshares , which I see you've included, is better mainly because it doesn't ramp your opponents. In a format filled with people routinely doing mana-intensive things, I think you'll be better off running something like Ashes to Ashes .

Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are three REALLY good cards. Like Xerox decks in Vintage, in EDH it is advantageous to replace a part of your mana-base with cantrips. This allows you to dig for lands if you need them, and spells if you don't. Running these three, along with similar cheap card-draw, will allow you to run around thirty-two or so lands. Brainstorm goes from good to great if you have a high number of shuffle effects, from things like the Polluted Delta you're running. Similarly, Sleight of Hand or Serum Visions are good; they should be run only if you're already running the first three and still need more cantrips.

Similar to cantrips, card-positive draw-spells (i.e. Spells that draw more than one card) are also real good. Painful Truths , Fact or Fiction , Thirst for Knowledge , Night's Whisper , Echo of Eons and Windfall are great includes. Windfall and Echo of Eons are especially powerful if you also run Narset, Parter of Veils .

I highly suggest replacing your three-mana rocks with two-mana rocks. Chromatic Lantern , Pristine Talisman and Commander's Sphere are not as good as Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy and Talisman of Dominance . Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone and Thought Vessel are also good two-mana rocks; Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond are good, though wildly expensive.

Ashiok, Dream Render is excellent if your format has a lot of fetch lands; it also hoses graveyard decks.

Ancient Tomb is a better Temple of the False God -- if you have access to it, you should run it. 'Enter the battlefield tapped' can be pretty not-good; while cards like Dimir Aqueduct are card advantage in that they produce more mana from the same number of lands, they aren't as good as a standard dual (at least in my opinion). Silent Clearing , City of Brass and Mana Confluence are all better than the Karoo lands. Caves of Koilos , Adarkar Wastes , Underground River , Reflecting Pool , Forbidden Orchard and Exotic Orchard are similar.

Kaya's Guile can be good, depending upon your meta. Same with Kaya, Orzhov Usurper and Rule of Law / Eidolon of Rhetoric effects.

Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is REALLY good, though he is about $30 these days. Pairing him with Stasis can produce an instant win; similarly, Smothering Tithe can pair with Stasis for a similar effect.

I don't think Felidar Sovereign is very good. Typically you cast it during your main phase, and it has to last an entire turn cycle with your life total above 40 (or 38, in Oloro, if you stack your triggers right) before it will win the game. During this time, all of your opponents will be doing all they can to remove it. I think it may be easier to win with a Laboratory Maniac / Jace, Wielder of Mysteries + Demonic Consultation / Doomsday combo. Running Silence can help protect this combo.

Force of Will and Mana Drain are the gold standard in counters, though they'll cost you about the same as a used kidney. Dovin's Veto , Spell Snare , Dispel and Swan Song are all good considerations; if your meta is filled with fat creatures, Exclude can be good, too.

Search for Azcanta  Flip is a great card in control-style decks. I advise at least testing it, as well as Counterbalance .

I think you can run either Ghostly Prison or Propaganda -- I don't think both are necessary, especially since you're running Enlightened Tutor already. I advise running Ghostly Prison over Propaganda , as it doesn't die to Pyroblast / Red Elemental Blast .

It's worth replacing Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse with Prismatic Vista , if you have access to it.

Since it seems Aetherflux Reservoir is your main win condition, you may want to consider running Fabricate and Whir of Invention as tutors. If you want to go real deep, Transmute Artifact is a good card (though, also, REALLY expensive).

If you want to start cutting down on your creature-count, you can run some REAL nice stax pieces. Tainted AEther , Night of Souls' Betrayal and Overburden are good cards.

Necropotence is a good card in life-gain. Aura of Silence is just good, period.

Darksteel Mutation is good removal for an opposing commander, even if it is already indestructible. Imprisoned in the Moon is similar.

Mystic Remora is a great card, especially if you're looking for more Rhystic Study effects.

Alright -- I gotta go to bed. Good luck with the deck building!

Osbert on Marchesa, Queen of Taxes

1 week ago

Came here after seeing your Khobolds version and decided to comment here because of my distaste for infinite combos.

There are some fantastic taxation effects you could include like Norn's Annex , Windborn Muse , and Baird, Steward of Argive .

Personally I'd make Marchesa the Queen of taxes and run all the taxing stax pieces and discard effects to make everyone feel the oppression of the crown. Cards like Damping Sphere , Aura of Silence , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Vryn Wingmare , and myabe even Rule of Law for flavour. There is also Ethersworn Canonist and Eidolon of Rhetoric as a Rule of Laws with legs that don't get hit by the non-creature taxation. If you can ensure that you will hold monarch then cards like Necrogen Mists , Oppression , and Painful Quandary start to thin your opponents hands.

multimedia on

3 weeks ago

Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.

Not sure what kind of advice you're looking for because the deck is bad, but you know that already. Consider more hatebears? Increasing the pillowfort/opponent disruption strategies and decreasing everything else? Teeg is a good Commander for hatebears. You already have a few good ones Ouphe and Honor Guard, but consider more? Instead of playing a lot of lackluster creatures play hatebears that can both attack and disrupt your opponent. You can build a hatebear/pillowfort strategy on a budget especially since you already have Ghostly Prison

Cards ($5 or less each) to consider adding:

Lands:

Win Condition:

  • Luminarch Ascension : win condition when you have established a pillowfort and have your opponents disrupted. Repeatable source of 4/4 Angels that gets around many hatebears and disruptive enchantments/artifacts.
  • Sun Titan : can reanimate lots of different hatebears including Teeg, disruptive enchantments/artifacts or Wasteland/Strip Mine.

Hatebears:

Other:

If interested in these suggestions I offer more advice including potential cuts. Good luck with your deck.

darkone8 on What´s in your Hand?

3 weeks ago

Seems not bad. If you're trying to play a control deck, I'd recommend tuning your counter suite. Instead of playing Hostage Taker , play Oblivion Ring . The Wanderer seems like a less good idea because it's really slow for its effect. I'd recommend finding some other hard removal spells ( Mortify , Doom Blade , etc.) and trying to play more Jaces to help with card draw to access your control spells. I would also recommend looking into other dual lands and fetch lands. To top things off, you can play Rule of Law or Eidolon of Rhetoric paired with Knowledge Pool to stalemate the game. If you're looking for alternate win conditions/combos, just let me know.

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Eidolon of Rhetoric occurrence in decks from the last year

Modern:

All decks: 0.01%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%