Eidolon of Rhetoric

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Hero Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Heirloom Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Custom Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Journey into Nyx (JOU) Uncommon

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Eidolon of Rhetoric

Enchantment Creature — Spirit

Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn. 

Eidolon of Rhetoric Discussion

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Modern Horizons Announced

4 days ago

Whoah...Morophon is really cool. Best Werewolf commander to date! Plus you could now run white and blue prohibiting effects like Fatespinner or Eidolon of Rhetoric .

Oloro_Magic on [Primer] - Ad Nauseam Combo [[Procellam Legit]]

1 week ago

Heretic_Dragoon:

Yes Keranos, God of Storms comes in against control matchups as well as most midrange type decks. The reason for this is that so-many decks are running Surgical Extraction (though the meta is shifting a little bit) so a plan B option in the sideboard felt like a necessary development (not being prepared for the multitude of Thoughtseize decks can be bad especially if you expect them to be out in force). Of the possible plan B's (most of which are listed in the primer above) Keranos, God of Storms is my personal favorite hence why he is included; this does not mean that he is the best option, that would probably be either Godhead of Awe or Dragonlord Dromoka right now looking at recent meta data, Crovax, Ascendant Hero may also have an outside chance if you are looking to play a plan B in the side. Honestly I'm thinking of making that slot a Boseiju, Who Shelters All as Dovin's Veto is a bit scary but I don't have enough data to gage how often I need to worry about that card. Otherwise the slot can be used for an extra Fatal Push / Path to Exile or as a flex spot.

As for Slaughter Pact I have always been a fan of it simply for its flexibility, it more reliably can answer certain problem cards such as Eidolon of Rhetoric than Fatal Push or it can buy a turn against decks like Amulet if things aren't going well. It also provides for some interesting scenarios with the math to win being free, most notably in the Humans matchup allowing us to beat a Thalia, Guardian of Thraben with 7 available mana, or remove something like Meddling Mage naming a combo piece for free and win at instant speed on time. Before putting in the plan B with Keranos, God of Storms I was actually on 2 Fatal Push and 1 Slaughter Pact and was happy with the results for a long time, when it came down to cutting one of those, I prioritized the Humans matchup where Slaughter Pact can be the difference, and at the same time allowing myself to have a removal spell for a quick Gurmag Angler or larger threat that push can't deal with as efficiently.

DerektheRed on Creating a Stax Ban List

1 week ago

bryanedds - while I generally agree with the other commenters (especially goodair), I'll share what our playgroup does: no hard 'bans', but we do have an informal list of cards that aren't fun and people generally don't run them. As you say, they are mostly cards intended to lock out players entirely; a good example is Iona, Shield of Emeria . We also discourage things that slow the game waaayyy down like Winter Orb , Orb of Dreams and Spirit of the Labyrinth / Eidolon of Rhetoric . We also discourage decks with both tutors and infinite combos, but are fine with one or the other. Last, like most casual groups, we don't typically run any mass land destruction. IMO this approach is much preferable to 'banning' cards that are otherwise perfectly legal in EDH.

Ashen0ne on Aurelia's War

3 weeks ago

Alright so this is where things get difficult lol. Right now the deck has some semblance of agro and control but its currently being bogged down by things that don’t contribute anything or enough to warrant their spot. I’m going to suggest a lot of cuts and for each one I’ll offer a decent replacement that will not only make all of our lives miserable but also contribute to making the deck far more resilient and difficult to stop. Creatures to cut

Creatures to Add

Noncreature Spells to Cut

Noncreature Spells to Add

Now what these additions will do is smooth out your mana curve and make you come out swinging far more quickly in more consistently. The additions include another outlet to go infinite through Sword of Feast and Famine and Aggravated Assault . They also contain multiple ways to tutor up Helm of the Host and win. Combat Celebrant and Godo, Bandit Warlord each go infinite with helm and Godo will tutor for it himself and place it straight onto the battlefield.

We also tighten up your control package with cheap removal and creatures that limit what you’re opponents can do. I can provide more explanations in person if you like.

Remember these are only suggestions lol But if you try them I think you’ll like how much faster the deck pops off.

Xica on Eldritch StompoSaurus (V 3.0)

3 weeks ago

abbatromebone

  • I don't care who says it, be it the allmighty, or channelfireball or whomever else. Terminus is not a bad card. Its brutal against phoenix & dredge, where you don't exactly want to see hardcast phoenixes, early(er than usual) drakes, fast flipping titi, open mana for counters, or a board flooded with hardcast creatures, hardcast creeping chills, and conflagrates, and we also have to acknowledge that it can be cast on turn 2 & 3 - its only competition is Settle the Wreckage , which can hurt you later game, can be slower and loose you the game, most other wrath are very lacking in the current meta. However for my deck it doesn't matter which one does my opponent use - i am somewhat fucked either way.

  • For control, i can present a pretty reasonable clock (swing for 3 on turn 2, swing for 8 on turn 3), and more importantly, noone expects magus of the moon out of an RW deck, and once its down, you cannot get any but red mana. Cards like gaddock teeg also help a LOT, not to mention that Life's Legacy allows me to rebuild my hand an board pretty reasonably. My problem with control is that i can only go with my beatdown plan, since my combo plan - unlike against other decks doesn't work.

  • Aegis of the Gods is in the sideboard to combat decks like ad nauseam, mill, present a must kill (cheap) target against targeted discard GB(x), 8-rack (which is relevant since my bro is an 8-rack fanatic), and its also a must kill creature for burn. Its also not my only viable cards in these matchups, as Eidolon of Rhetoric , Gaddock Teeg , also hinder the enemy.

  • THE POINT OF THIS DECK IS THAT EVERY CREATURE IN THE SIDEBOARD HAS 4 ADDITIONAL COPIES IN Eldritch Evolution . Thus to have the same chances of drawing the effect i have to play 4x Leyline of Sanctity and 1x Ivory Mask .

  • Have you seen the deck? the main combo is using Eldritch Evolution to get Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite (or Iona, Shield of Emeria ) ...yes, surprisingly it does that.

  • In previous iterations, i used to rely more heavily on lands, running 4 copies of Knight of the Reliquary in my 75 to enable this, i also played Sejiri Steppe in stead of Endless Sands , as it allowed knight to act as Mother of Runes - sadly it simply didn't work out. And i tend to have lots of creatures, since all my effects are attached to a body (and most of them come back from the grave), not to mention, my 4 of It of the Horrid Swarm creates plenty of tokens to be buffed. I would also like to point out that by the time i have 5 lands to enable activation of Gavony Township Strangleroot Geist tends to die at least once - so it already has a +1/+1 counter, meaning undying is already off the table

thewyzman on Midrange decks in combo-happy meta

1 month ago

While blue is certainly the most controlling of colors, it's really cards like Path to Exile , Utter End -type spells, and wraths like Wrath of God and Toxic Deluge that set the deck so far behind in tempo. It makes me consider things like Ranger's Guile attractive, or even Gods Willing in Mayael. Before I deconstructed her, I tried going stax-y with cards like Eidolon of Rhetoric to slow my opponents down to my speed, and Dauntless Escort to wrath-proof my boards.

Mayael aside, Omnath, Locus of Rage is in her stead currently as my top commander. While I am fighting the urge to rebuild her, I would still love to know if ANYONE is having any success with either commander in relatively competitive metas like mine?

gryffin828 on Samut Blood Pod

1 month ago

Inkmoth: I wouldn't play Paradox Engine; we're playing Eidolon of Rhetoric , after all. We're not running the pieces to combo with Captain Sisay (and we really can't), and it doesn't do much for any other card in the deck.

This is the Samut list I'm currently playing: Samut Twin. I have a more in-depth description of cards that aren't in the main list but could be, as well as some game plan stuff. Most of what I've written there is applicable to this list, too.

Funkydiscogod on Building a competitive Defender deck

1 month ago

Eidolon of Rhetoric wouldn't hurt, even if you put a few maindeck.

Since you say your big problem is against noncreature decks, Unified Will might be worth considering over Mana Leak , since you know you're going to have more creatures than them.

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Eidolon of Rhetoric occurrence in decks from the last year

Modern:

All decks: 0.01%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%