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Discard two cards: Put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token into play.
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Zombie Infestation Discussion
1 week ago
If you want consistency, you will need card filtering, which means either going for blue cantrips like Serum Visions, Sleight of Hand ...etc. or for red looting effects like Faithless Looting.
If you want to abuse black "you lose the game" enchantments, i think it would be better to play white flicker effects. If you run Ad Nauseam, then (despite neither of us liking it), Lightning Storm is miles ahead of Zombie Infestation. What i am trying to say is that these two plans are not necessarily best suited to be played in the same deck. (there are more very painful, black enchantments to be abused, beside Demonic Pact, like Bitterblossom, Phyrexian Etchings ...etc. - or even Null Profusion for the completely mental players)
Like the previous poster mentioned Death's Shadow is a card that has great potential for builds like this, and i would add, that cards like Fling & Rite of Consumption are madly strong with it.
They often mean game if the opponent tries to race you, as they can act as walls, or just go to face if painful manabases, or bob put them in range of the 13 dmg bolt.
For some reason - probably thanks to lorwyn block art - i have a very visceral disgust of merfolk (which got reduced a lot in ixalan)...
If you are thinking about playing red, then pairing up Spreading Seas with Blood Moon seems like a strategy that in itself is often enough to win, not to mention, that you would get access to one of if not the best merfolk of all time Jori En, Ruin Diver, which can be pretty crazy, but you would likely have to give up the vial plan, in favour of cantrips, and cheap stuff in general. (+ Lightning Bolt aka. shit removal spell, that has a great failure mode, going to the face)
Imho, i don't think green merfolk is anything special, it trades if vulnerability to Choke, for being hit by Blood Moon, and the green creatures it gains are often not helping the "play all the lords & islandwalk for the win" strategy that the deck want to play, not to tmenion that playing Phantasmal Image as the X-th lord offers the option to copy value cards that are run by goodstuff decks (Dark Confidant for example).
Beside the general black packages, like targeted discard, draw for life, and destroy effect, there is not much reason to go black - Sygg, River Cutthroat exists, but he is more of a rogue tribal card, a merfolk.
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I am looking for criticism of my deck (that goes beyond, stating the obvious difference from the standard RB hollow one lists), i would be even more happy if i could be hit by constructive ciritcism, and suggestions, but i will be happy with what i can get
1 week ago
Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox is my big list of deckbuilding mono-black tools.
I don't like Tormented Soul outside of spirit tribal, If you love it you should run Lashwrithe and Will-o'-the-Wisp. Mental Agony costs too much mana. Blackmail, Mire's Toll etc and some Sign in Blood/Night's Whisper just runs smoother.
My favourite discard spell is Delirium Skeins, which combos neatly with Asylum Visitor. With the symetrical discard plan, you get access to the hella fun Call the Bloodline and Zombie Infestation, alongside madness tools.
2 weeks ago
Easy to cast things that help stuff you or cast other things might help your QoL like:Lotleth Troll, Hedron Crab, Call the Bloodline, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Pack Rat, Shinen of Life's Roar, Silverglade Pathfinder, Sinister Concoction, Zombie Infestation
Things muldrotha will turn into all upside.
1 month ago
So, apparently if you don't have any critters for Proteus Staff to find you can stack your entire deck however you want.
In the sideboard, put a Treasure Hunt, a Zombie Infestation, and a Swamp, so you can side out Polymorph and Emrakul, and give yourself an optional win condition if you know the opponent is going to board in anti-Polymorph stuff.
1 month ago
Thanks for the comments bosny! You're right about Hivestone, it's one of the cards I'm more iffy on. Although I was contemplating Acidic Sliver as a potential wincon. Actually the deck ramps pretty well with the amount of ramp and cost reduction and mana-giving creatures it includes, so the low land count works ok, and the higher CMC creatures can be played with cost reduction or infinite mana combos, cheated in with Sneak Attack, or just discarded as fodder for Zombie Infestation or Skirge Familiar.
For a budget version, there are actually plenty of cheap cards in my maybeboard that would also work really well. Keep the core of the deck which is the sac outlets, and card draw. If there's no Sneak Attack the list would change to prioritize red mana less, and focusing on cheaper creatures, but it's such a key card it probably needs to be in. Zulaport Cutthroat can sub for Purphoros. Drop Mana Echoes and a couple of the other cards for more ramping creatures. Phyrexian Altar would be a very big loss, but Mycosynth Lattice could work to allow any color of mana to be used for the combos. Grave Pact is droppable.
There could be a version running Heartless Summoning, but that would require changing the creature base. I might experiment with that.
1 month ago
if the main combo involves Zombie Infestation, why isn't in the actual deck? you have it in the "maybeboard".
1 month ago
It's not easy to conciliate the cards you are showing. I tried and i hope i can give you some help. I believe you should try to keep the battlefield clear from your enemy's threats (im thinking of creatures mostly, or do better and study possible decks you might face). In my case i changed the aggro format, to keep more options on sidedeck.
In case you accept this change i imagine you will answer well to your enemy cards, then you can try to cast your cards either from your hand or graveyard. More precisely, these are the creatures i was thinking of: Butcher Ghoul, Dread Wanderer or Gravecrawler; and cast Lord of the Accursed and Indulgent Tormentor with Unburial Rites or some other reanimation card like Exhume or Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip. You can discard these last creatures either with Cryptbreaker or Zombie Infestation (which i think may do better, just try to keep some lands in hand after you have more than 4 lands in play just to keep using the enchantment ability).
I thought of Indulgent Tormentor because you can draw more cards, but you might want to try an hardcore zombie of your preference.
But, for example, if you go against an burn deck with no creature surely would be hard to win.
About maybeboard i thought of Rotting Rats, just because with it you can try to run down your enemy strategy close to zero, however it escapes the tempo of the deck a bit.
Hope i helped, zombies are really fun to play, the possibilities almost never run out. Good luck.
1 month ago
I think I would stay away from the instant/sorceries you mentioned in favor of permanents that give you more creatures, for example Necromancer's Stockpile or Zombie Infestation since they both add to your graveyard and give tokens