Greater Good

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Greater Good

Enchantment

Sacrifice a creature: Draw cards equal to the sacrificed creature's power, then discard three cards.

Profet93 on Mono Green Stompy

2 days ago

RufusTheGrufus +1

I actually completely disagree with the above GoldBerserkDragon, (GBD) both personally and professionally. 37 lands is actually my favorite # in EDH. While yes, you could it isn't optimal, especially in a build whose avg cmc is above 4.5. Now to actually provide you with suggestions unlike GBD. Some of these might be better than others, let me know what you think of each....

Rishkar's Expertise - It's draw + tempo. While it is a bit risky if you have one creature, the risk is mitigated if you have several creatures on board.

Pir's Whim > Tempt Discovery - Tempt is best if you have cradle or another high mana producing land to immediately use untapped. I used to run it but my playgroup would either not take the bait, or would just tutor for strip mine and destroy whatever land I got. Pir's whim is political and removal, all at the same time.

Traverse the Outlands - Mass land ramp

Collector Ouphe - Null rod the creature. It only stops 2 of your cards but since artifacts are huge in EDH, it's definitely worth considering. If not, then perhaps a Manglehorn or a Reclamation Sage

Since you run momentous fall, perhaps a Life's Legacy? Better yet, Greater Good!

Nissa's Pilgrimage > Cultivate

Yavimaya Hollow - Regen / politics

Turntimber, Serpentine Wood  Flip - Spell or land, you decide!

Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma - Ramp + Trample

Shaman of Forgotten Ways/Somberwald Sage - With the former as an alt wincon

Siege Behemoth - Push damage through

Berserk - Super fun! I once used this on an opponents (Op1) commander to kill Op2 via commander damage and Op1 lost his commander making him easier to kill. Usually used to close things out. It's also fun to use on Selvala as psuedo ramp. Not needed, but nice.

Ultigame21 on Ur-Dragon's Multiverse Onslaught | *PRIMER*

1 week ago

First of all, I love your deck choices!

But I believe that Ancient Gold Dragon would be a very good card to add even if he doesn't have haste. First of all he’s a 7/10 good blocker for the turn he comes in unlike Ancient Copper Dragon (6/5) but I understand that it’s slow if you don’t have a way to give him haste. Love Copper Dragon treasures thought <3

Imagine having Dragon Tempest /Scourge of Valkas /Terror of the Peaks out when up to 20 x blue faerie dragons enters the battlefield. The amount of damage each trigger would do.

Also very good with all attack triggers or other cool dragons you have in the deck (Dromoka, the Eternal, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Old Gnawbone, Silumgar, the Drifting Death,Utvara Hellkite, Wrathful Red Dragon, Defiant Thundermaw  Flip).

You could also potentially draw up to 20 cards if Kindred Discovery or Greater Good is on the battlefield. Puts a good number of counters on Dragon's Hoard also.

I’d love to hear your opinion on why you didn’t include him in your list with all the good synergies!

I think I would probably have to switch Balefire Dragon for Ancient Gold Dragon. Most big problematic creatures have more than 6 toughness so Balefire doesn’t get rid of them it’s only good against Tokens stacking strategies early on. I’d rather get many blockers each turn recurring and like explained you only need 1 of those 3 pieces (Dragon Tempest/Scourge of Valkas/Terror of the Peaks) to do almost the same effect as Balefire but targeting anything.

Profet93 on Kura

4 weeks ago

markbeloit +1

I like your fight + stax pieces. Have you thought of adding redundancy for collector ouphe with Null Rod or do you believe it's not necessary? It only shuts off the activated ability of conduit of worlds.

You should swap out half of your forests for snow-covered to trigger field of the dead more easily.

Elemental Bond/Garruk's Uprising > Collasal majesty.

Hour of Promise - Land tutor

Pir's Whim - Land tutor + politics and/or removal.

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection + politics. I get you want stuff to die most of the time but it's nice to be able to protect something or be political when you want to.

Mirrorpool - Copy important instants and sorceries

Miren, the Moaning Well - Sac outlet for commander. can also sac the token it makes to gain life in a pinch.

Castle Garenbrig - Ramp

MAYBE Greater Good - It's main purpose is to be a sac outlet for your commander. It is also nice against theft decks. Not to mention it can put lands in your grave for you to recur. Lastly, it can make your token created by your commander a fuel for additional draw.

MAYBE Nylea's Intervention - While your commander does allow you to tutor, sometimes it might get exiled, or maybe you want the token more than the land tutor. Not to mention it can destroy fliers which this deck seems to be weak against.

How is the abundance + sylvan library combo been treating you?

Looking forward to your response for each suggestion. I like this deck, I've been thinking of adding Kura to my Azusa list.

scottbaker91 on Budget Meren Eldrazi EDH

4 weeks ago

I think Hand of Emrakul, Decimator of the Provinces, Kozilek, the Great Distortion, and Pathrazer of Ulamog are too expensive to cast / commander ability for what they do. Some replacement examples would be: Terastodon, Void Winnower, Fleshbag Marauder, Noxious Gearhulk, Ravenous Chupacabra, Plaguecrafter, Eternal Witness, It That Betrays, Woodfall Primus, Acidic Slime, Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, Sepulchral Primordial, Overseer of the Damned, etc.

cards like Dalek Squadron with a sac outlet will get you a lot of Meren counters quickly. cards like Greater Good are great at filling your graveyard and your hand. cards like Oversold Cemetery are great for your low mana creatures and late game expensive creatures. Tragic Slip isn't a very good card for multiplayer commander, unless you are using something like Isochron Scepter

I think your deck is a little heavy on creature token generators, especially your creatures. I know they are there to build up tokens on Meren and to generate mana, in the early game, but they aren't doing much in the mid to late game. Maybe replace a few with some faster reanimator spells like: Living Death, Lifeline (a personal favorite), Necromancy, Animate Dead, Victimize, Rescue from the Underworld, Beacon of Unrest, etc.

Other cards I would consider cutting: Skullbriar, the Walking Grave (too slow imo unless he is your commander), Blisterpod (needs to die to get the token), Pawn of Ulamog, Vorapede, Village Rites, Gray Merchant of Asphodel (starts to shine with lots of reanimator stuff), Woe Strider, Scion Summoner, Brood Monitor, Deathreap Ritual, Commander's Sphere

It's tough to suggest cards for a budget deck. A card that I might consider to be absolutely necessary could require cheaper options in other parts of the deck to make it fit.

NV_1980 on King Stranger, Make Me Strong! *PRIMER*

1 month ago

Apology accepted Profet93; it's all good. Glad to hear that I misinterpreted your intent of the quoted words. Your contributions have thus far always been worth thinking about, so I guess it was just the tone this time around that took me off guard. Greater Good is indeed awesome in a deck that can pump single creatures so well. I've used it in my Grothama deck a lot, in which it rocks. I have no doubt it can do well in this deck too. Keep sending those suggestions for whatever deck you want. I get the feeling that most members of the TappedOut community are grateful for them. If there's any deck you want me to look at, let me know.

NV_1980 on King Stranger, Make Me Strong! *PRIMER*

1 month ago

Hi Profet93, appreciate your card suggestions, but I would prefer if you don't use remarks anmymore like 'IF YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING' or 'DO NOT SLEEP ON THIS CARD'. This comes across as incredibly condescending; especially to a player who's been at this game since more or less its inception. I appreciate that you're trying to make decks as good as you can make them according to YOUR view, but please keep in mind that you're not the ultimate authority on MTG and that there are other views than yours out there. Suggest what you want to suggest, but if you're tired of people not listening to your advice, please vent your frustration about that someplace else.

All that being said, I think Greater Good is an excellent suggestion and would probably replace Shadow in the Warp; I like Warp but it's not really required in the deck as it's fast enough at casting creature spells without it and the damage it deals is fine but not impressive. I also like your Castle Garenbrig and Ancient Tomb suggestions for some additional mana advantage. Lastly, I think I'll give Guardian Project a shot in here as a replacement for Xenagos, the Reveler. As a sidenote, I've recently acquired an Anzrag, the Quake-Mole; he'll replace Combat Celebrant.

The additional suggestions (especially the sorceries) on card-draw you made are nice, but I think I'm now sufficiently covered on this front and I want to keep this deck as permanent-rich as possible. Thanks for your help.

Profet93 on King Stranger, Make Me Strong! *PRIMER*

1 month ago

NV_1980

First and foremost, I enjoyed reading your description. Do Note that Sword of Feast and Famine means your commander cannot target it to increase it's stats due to the "pro green."

Greater Good - THE MOST IMPORTANT CARD IN XENAGOS, HANDS DOWN. IF YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING, THIS IS THE ONE SUGGESTION. Used in response to removal or equip activation, or just in a pinch. This card forces them to use removal lest they die to your overwhelming card advantage. DO NOT SLEEP ON THIS CARD.

Harmonize - Simple draw

Momentous Fall/Life's Legacy - While weak against blue, could warrant an inclusion depending on how much draw you want in the deck. The former is used in response to removal and the lifegain is icing on the cake.

Rishkar's Expertise - I'm normally against cards like this but in Xenagos, there is way too much of an upside to ignore. Used post combat most of the time, allows you to draw without missing out on tempo.

Skullclamp - Cut little idea to use on mana dorks, or force interaction pre-commander ability/combat.

Return of the Wildspeaker - Used in response to removal. Overrun option is nice as well

Elemental Bond - Draw, also see Guardian Project (although they can remove ur creature in response to the trigger to deny you a card)

Ancient Tomb - Ramp

Raging Ravine - Manland that can get bigger.

Dread Statuary - Manland that can get to 8 power with Xenagos. I usually use manlands as fodder for one of the draw spells listed above. Worth considering

Castle Garenbrig - Simple ramp

Cragcrown Pathway  Flip - Red or green, whichever you need.

Elder Gargaroth - Draw, lifegain or token production

Somberwald Sage - Ramp

Berserk - Super fun! Use before the damage step. Or better yet, use on your opponent attacking another opponent and force op 1 to lose a creature while op 2 takes lots of damage. Fun fact, I killed an animar this was (lol). You can also use it on Selvala for extra ramp!

Xenagos decks typically go one of 2 ways. Either lots of dorks and some land ramp like your deck to bring threats out more quickly, or to forgo dorks and focus solely on land ramp. Your deck is the former while mine is the latter. Do note that even with the dork route, Xenagos decks go tall, not wide. So there are some creature choices that I do not believe are as efficient as other choices could be and would love to discuss them with you if you're up for it. Xenagos decks are like snipers, usually one big creature at a time, sometimes more if you have the right set up. They also fold to spot removal as spending 5+ mana on a creature just to have it removed by 1 - 3 mana removal spell really sucks. I know you're against bolt bend/deflecting swat (despite them being my favorite type of spells) but perhaps something like Vines of Vastwood or another spell might potentially warrant an inclusion to save an important creature. At the very least, having more than 2 instants, only 1 of which acts as protection, could be used as a bluff and keep opponents guessing.

UnleashedHavok on MossyFungoid

3 months ago

I like the cards you have here! Great stuff so far. I have several questions and suggestions:

  • I know these are the cards you have on hand, but is money a factor so far as buying additional cards? If not, I would highly recommend a Tendershoot Dryad. It will pair well with your Sporecrown Thallid, Verdeloth the Ancient, Nemata, Grove Guardian and Verdant Force. These cards are a pretty solid core for the deck. Now start looking for ways to tutor them. Worldly Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Grim Tutor..... we are in fantastic colors for tutoring the cards you need.
  • After building the core of your deck and what you want it to do, I like to add support and utility cards. I love Viconia, Drow Apostle, Shadowheart, Dark Justiciar, Rankle, Master of Pranks, and Loyal Guardian for this purpose! Might I recommend a Thunderfoot Baloth to pair with your Guardian?
  • Cut your land count down to 37 - 40, then playtest and see how it feels
  • Play to your commander's strength. I am working on a budget version (less than $80) of The Mycotyrant myself, and will be playing Cemetery Tampering, Crawling Infestation, and Crawling Sensation. One of the things I try to do is build a deck that functions well without the commander on the board so I am not completely hosed when they are removed. I like all 3 of these enchantments because I am not in danger of decking myself, and if the commander is not on the field I do not have to mill. I talk about milling, because it plays to The Mycotyrant's strength as a commander. We will see if I still want all 3 enchantments in the deck after I build it and see it in action, hopefully soon.
  • If you decide to lean into milling yourself and sacrificing creatures like I have for my deck, I would recommend stepping away from non-creature spells and do your removal in creature form. I currently only have a total of 7 sorceries and instants in my deck, so as I mill myself I am more guaranteed to hit permanent cards. Remember that The Mycotyrant cares about permanent cards in your graveyard, so sacrificing your tokens will not contribute to its descend mechanic.
  • To follow along the vein of previous suggestion, invest in some free sac outlets: Greater Good, Altar of Dementia (target yourself to capitalize on commander ability at your end step)

I think that's all I have for the moment...... let me know if you have any questions! Here is my work in progress Budget Mycotyrant

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