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At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library. Any opponent may have you put that card into your graveyard. If a player does, Sin Prodder deals damage to that player equal to that card's converted mana cost. Otherwise, put that card into your hand.
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Sin Prodder Discussion
1 month ago
Yeah - never really thought that idea through - would be great if we could block lands. Agreed Manamorphose can be played with , but with a better / mana base, would you really need 4 mana-fixing cards? I have in the past tried similar decks with Sin Prodder and Fevered Visions and with cheap instants and Enigma Drake. The problem is that you tend to be slowed down too much by control heavy decks and really need to get your extra card draw going early. I might consider throwing in something like Doublecast, or even Guttersnipe
3 months ago
I like the idea of Sin Prodder, but I would replace them with Zhur-Taa Druid. Reason being that they could really screw you over if you are in a pinch. The druid however would produce mana, and some damage. This would result in having a total of 12 creatures being mana-prodducers, There are two obvious solutions; first, work with the mana, and toss in some hydras, second, replace some of the mana-producers with other cheap spells, such as Dragon Fodder for a handful of early game blockers. I would also replace Pathbreaker Ibex with Wolfir Silverheart, or hydras if you are running with the mana. Endless One is a cheap alternative to hydras, but if you have them, or the money, I would recommend Primordial Hydra.
All of that being said however, I love the use of Shaman of the Great Hunt!
3 months ago
Blood Moon is great, turning your opponent's non-basic lands into mountains. It works well against anything except mono-red decks. Unfortunately your own land-base is also mainly non-basic lands. 6 Islands and 15 Mountains would really not help you deck.
You have no way of casting Manamorphose so it becomes a permanent dead card in the hand.
I would simplify: 9 Mountain and 12 Island will provide a more stable mana-base that works well with Blood Moon, then try the following instants;
2 Cryptic Command (which is a great utility card if you can pay the ),
2 Electrolyze (damage and card draw),
2 Remand (negation and card draw),
3 Abrade (damage or removal),
3 Spell Pierce,
3 Opt (Scry and card draw)
4 months ago
If you don't mind it being a regular thing then you could also consider Sin Prodder. (Bonus: is also a Devil.)
5 months ago
Depends on what you expect to go up against...
I would say that 4x Abrade is a given. It can increase your removal count against decks where killing a Goblin Electromancer/Devoted Druid can make a difference between loosing or winning a game. And artifact destruction if as good as ever, its relevant against humans (due to Aether Vial), against the mirror, and give you something to attack Cranial Plating the best card in affinity against this kind of deck.
If you expect elves/merfolk Anger of the Gods is a gamechanger, and it also hates really effectively on dredge. (I would advocate agaisnt heavily sideboarding against living end, as the deck can easily steal game one and a second game just by randomly binning creatures into the grave with the loot effects, similarly to what Arcbound Ravagerdoes in affinity lists. If you face something like any flavor of griselbrand reanimator deck, you will need some dedicated grave hate :P)
Otherwise just diversify the sideboard with multi purpose hate cards - for example Dragon's Claw is great versus both burn/sleigh & storm, Damping Sphere is good vs storm, ad nauseam, tron & amulet titan - the more diverse your answers are the less likely a single Echoing Truth could lead to a game loss.
I run some strange choices in my side, that may be questionable. Hour of Devastation is a sweeper that burns everything even if humans get up their counter, or merfolk/elves are buffed to absurd proportions - and its surprisingly great when UW control boards into being gideon tribal. Harvest Pyre is a great card, but Rest in Peace and the like hoses it - so that is something to consider - Roast on the other hand, nearly covers all the same bases, its downsides being that it can't target flyers like Vendilion Clique, Stormbreath Dragon... etc. and no matter what it can never blow up Inferno Titan/Primeval Titan, and its slow against Reality Smasher as it can swing at least once. (And Lightning Axe is always an option)
If you expect a lot of humans i would strongly advocate playing Torpor Orb which is a bane of that deck (or any eqivalent effect you can find).
Chandra, Torch of Defiance just got a lot worse due to the "rework" of damage targeting rules, its damage can't be redirected to other planeswalkers anymore. Thus Vessel of Volatility got a bit more appealing, since it can't be attacked by creatures & it can power out Demigod of Revenge a turn (and a land) earlier. (Chandra has a few upsides, even though she lack that raw power, she can act as removal, a pseudo Dark Confidant, more like a better Sin Prodder - and sometimes, the effort people take to remove her lead to you winning the damage race by a few points, and her ultimate is a way to win against martyr proc decks, and in prison decks in general.
In red you also have access to some more narrow and devastating effect to hate on specific deck - if yu have such problems in the local meta, like Aura Barbs against boggles, Shatterstorm/Granulate/Shattering Spree/By Force agaisnt effinity, various eggs variants (currenlty KCI-travler), Boil if you want to hate on decks with a lot of blue, red also offers Hazoret the Fervent to shit on midrange even more (if Blood Moon wasn't enough)....
If you want to splash, black has two main attractions: Rakdos Charm & Collective Brutality - which i think are much stronger (and have more uses) than Ancient Grudge. Blue offers Izzet Charm, and white offers the best hate crds against every archetype. Going mardu gives access to Lingering Souls - maybe even in the main, which solves many problems the deck has.
5 months ago
Thanks for the feedback, I agree Chandra's Ignition is much more potent compared to Rolling Earthquake but the inclusion is mostly to deal with low toughness creature that are pervasive in competitive metas. Also, my list has a low creature density to make full use of Chandra's Ignition, It would feel bad to only burn everyone for 4 or if someone removes my only creature that i'm targeting with it. I've considered Sin Prodder,as creature with good stats and potential to become card advantage or increase mana production with Neheb for the turn but it's more for a slow attrition game or if you're running the Big spells Neheb which Sin Prodder can be really punishing with Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger.
I greatly appreciate your suggestion as well as taking the time to check out my primer on Neheb! :)
6 months ago
6 months ago
TheGeneralAdvisor , if I cut Rapacious One, Sin Prodder, Cudgel Troll, Flamespeaker's Will, Clan Defiance, Soul's Fire, Fire Servant, and Nessian Game Warden and considered adding Gruul Signet, Rampant Growth, Birds of Paradise, and Kodama's Reach, along with filling in more lands, do you think that would fix the mana problem, considering Ive already got 3 mana dorks. Maybe also adding in Manamorphose somewhere?