Liliana, the Last Hope
Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-1 until your next turn.
-2: Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then you may return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
-7: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your end step, create X 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens, where X is two plus the number of Zombies you control."
|Want (3)||Gaous , Gootono , FilipinoWT|
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|Guilds of Ravnica: Mythic Edition (GRNMED)||Mythic Rare|
|Eldritch Moon (EMN)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Liliana, the Last Hope occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.17%
All decks: 0.48%
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All decks: 0.01%
Liliana, the Last Hope Discussion
1 week ago
I'd say pick better friends. When judging a planeswalker in other decks, you mainly look at the first 2 abilities and judge how protected a planeswalker is after Plus-ing or how vulnerable they are after Minus-ing and how planeswalkers can protect themselves.
Let's look at how we usually evaluate planeswalkers. Garruk, Cursed Huntsman . 5 Loyalty > Pretty Good Body that can take a bit of damage. A 0 ability isn't the best, but it makes blockers that your opponents don't want to attack into because Garruk gets bigger. -3 kills any attackers while also drawing a card. -6 Win the game with Combat Damage. We're usually going to be looking at the first and second abilities, however, as it can't be easy in all situations to get to -6
Not in Atraxa though.
The amount of loyalty that a planeswalker can get in one turn is much higher than normal, so we instead look at the Ultimates and the Second abilities mainly. A planeswalker in this deck can minus all the way and still live and generate value. Therefore, we play planeswalkers that are stronger in a vacuum
Sure, Kiora or Ajani, the Greathearted are great with creatures on the board and things to interact with, but on their own, they don't go anywhere. On the other hand, a planeswalker like Venser or Teferi may be hard to get to ultimate in a normal game but is almost a guarantee in an Atraxa deck.
For most decks, you look at how averagely the planeswalker does. For example, Jace, the Mind Sculptor . Maybe, in a game, you bounce a few things, brainstorm a couple of times, and start to fateseal. However, Jace's ultimate is very hard to get just by using his +2, so very rarely would we base his power just off that. But in Atraxa, with added proliferate, we can easily get the ultimate for Jace and basically win on the spot.
Ajani, Caller of the Pride - What creatures? Atraxa maybe, but what creatures will you have early in the game? 1/10
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes - Pretty OK in that it can dig for more planeswalkers. Don't play it for the Counters, you have very few creatures. Gain 100 Life would be used as a panic button, not something you should try to get to, just keep using his second ability until you find better planeswalkers. 5/10
Ajani, the Greathearted - Puts loyalty counters on things. Gives creatures vigilance, which makes them able to block and protect the planeswalkers, but there are few creatures here that block well. 6/10
Ajani Unyielding - Getting to swords something every turn is very powerful, and he digs for more planeswalker. 8/10
Ashiok, Dream Render - Why? Bojuka Bog and Scavenging Ooze are both on color here? As is Aven Mindcensor , which, if you're looking at that static ability, is WAY better because the bird can attack and has flash. It may look worse because it still lets them look at the top 4, but this is 100 card singleton, your opponents never get what they wanted. Also, the flash is super relevant because, against Ashiok, people just hold their tutors until Ashiok is gone, but the bird can come unexpectedly, basically nullifying at least 1 tutor 1/10
Jace, Arcane Strategist - Draws 1 card, but for 6 mana. Can't put counters on creatures you don't have. 1/10
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets - First ability is already good, the second one can make for some pretty good locks, and the ultimate really stalls the game and lets your other planeswalkers build loyalty. 8/10
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries - Drawing 7 cards makes for a pretty good ultimate, even if he's a little hard to cast on turn 4. Very possible to draw 7. 7/10
Liliana of the Dark Realms - The worst Liliana. It doesn't do enough since everything is tied to your Swamps. Sure with Urborg, it's good, but 1 in 98 (You can't fetch Urborg because in your library it isn't a Swamp). Play Liliana, the Last Hope because EMBLEM. 1/10
Mu Yanling - The only real good thing is the minus because you only have 2 haymakers that would want to attack. The Ultimate would be good in a creature in a creature deck because it lets you attack without blockers, but this isn't a creature deck. Also, your proliferate is not fast enough to keep up with -3 every turn. Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer is cheaper and protects herself while providing extreme endgame value. 4/10
Sorin Markov - "Oops you're dead". Sorin will always -3 on the turn he comes in obviously. However, with enough proliferate, you can Mind Slaver eventually after that. As your opponent tries to claw back, you'll be able to waste all their work. 8/10
Teferi, Temporal Archmage - Pretty good Ultimate with some card selection thrown in. 8/10
Ugin, the Ineffable - Most of your colorless spells are Ramp so static is kinda a meh. However, having played Ugin Jr., the manifest ability is quite good and provides a more interesting form of card advantage. Also, in this deck, you'll be using the -3 a lot more. 8.5/10
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - The perfect planeswalker for this deck. A powerful ultimate that usually take ~3-4 turns can be done in 2 and can put more planeswalkers into play. 10/10
Venser, the Sojourner - Don't know what you'll be flickering, but it can just be anything for value and still probably be good. Extremely powerful ultimate; wins games. 9/10
Vraska the Unseen - Controls the board and, in this deck, wins the game a lot faster. Versatile removal with the -3, which can be used a lot more often. 9/10
In general, I don't think you have enough proliferate. You have 3 spells with the word proliferate and one of them is Atraxa. You do have a lot of cards that would work great with more proliferate that aren't planeswalkers. Doubling Season, Blightsteel, and Shalai would all work super well with more repeatable proliferate. As with most tribal decks (This is sort of just Planeswalker Tribal), you do need to find the balance between Creatures of the tribe and Tribal Boosters. For example, why play Rhystic Study or Enlightened Tutor when you can just play another Planeswalker or Proliferate card. These cards are there specifically for value, but the Planeswalkers and Proliferate cards are your value engines.
Planeswalkers are very powerful, which is why Atraxa is one of the most popular Commanders, so play more of them. Will Kenrith for value, Tamiyo, Field Researcher for value, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria for more value. Take a look at these planeswalkers to see what to play. These planeswalkers by themselves are incredible and win can easily win games. However, with Atraxa, things get even better
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Cytex, thanks for the suggestions! I think at for Open the Graves , I'll stay at the exact same mana cost for Liliana's Mastery . Getting the +1/+1 anthem effect has proven to be exceptional, and what are effectively 2x 3/3 zombie tokens for 5 mana is pretty good. Graf Harvest is okay, but I can get the same effect from Lord of the Accursed . Sure, it's a bit more expensive, but I get multiple functions from the single card (anthem effect and the menace bit), and I don't have to remove any of the current cards to try to find room for Graf Harvest . Many of the Liliana planeswalkers would work well in the deck. I think Liliana, the Last Hope is often used, and I know many recent builds have Liliana, Untouched By Death . I think Liliana, Untouched By Death might be okay as 2x in the sideboard, but I prefer to just slam some creatures.
Thank you for the suggestions!
1 month ago
I am glad someone has already typed out my opinion in full, so I do not have to. Thanks xtechnetia! The only thing I would say is that my benchmark for powerful planeswalkers without being oppressive is actually Liliana, the Last Hope .
1 month ago
I've already done some testing on DRS and Grim Flayer . Basically here's how it goes.
This deck can be built two different ways. The graveyard way, or this way.
I much prefer this way however, because it's more resistant in bad matchups and doeant get hated on NEARLY as hard by decks sideboarding to beat those increasingly popular dredge-style decks.
It's down to preference mostly, I just much prefer this over the Graveyard style deck.
1 month ago
If you're playing aggro, you want 4 Blooming Marsh and probably 0 Quagmire. Advocate is probably not very good here if you're running only 23 lands because it will be very difficult to get to 6 lands in Pioneer. I would also drop Field of Ruin because, again, you're an aggro deck simply trying to clock your opponent. There aren't any threatening lands in the format to warrant a slot to a colorless mana source. I would Max out on Knight of the Ebon Legion and Scrapheap Scrounger .
Here's what I would change: -4 Sylvan Advocate -1 Scavenging Ooze -1 Tireless Tracker -2 Questing Beast -1 Liliana, the Last Hope -1 Vraska, Golgari Queen -3 Fatal Push -1 Collective Brutality -2 Field of Ruin -2 Hissing Quagmire
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
As for the Sideboard, you probably don't need Plague anymore, since Field of the Dead is.. well, dead. I would honestly set it up for what you most expect to play against. X number of Duress, Graveyard hate (Ashiok/Leyline of the Void/Scooze), Artifact hate (Reclamation Sage), Creature hate (Cast Down/Doom Blade/Languish/Cry of the Carnarium). There will still be some Nissa/Big Mana decks you'll have to look out for.
1 month ago
I like the list! I am building a similar deck and was looking for ideas, which is how I found this. I added Chandra, Acolyte of Flame after seeing your list, but my list might be too creature heavy to fully take advantage of Chandra's recursion ability. Might be better for me to run Liliana, the Last Hope instead of Chandra, Acolyte of Flame as an additional threat. Here's my list if you want to take a look: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/02-12-19-Uoz-rakdos-discard/?cb=1575335829