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Liliana, the Last Hope
Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-1 until your next turn.
-2: Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then you may return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
-7: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your end step, create X 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens, where X is two plus the number of Zombies you control."
Liliana, the Last Hope Discussion
4 days ago
Modern huh? Unless you wanna do a sacrifice engine you're better going Rakdos or Mardu.
Vamps also wanna run pretty light on mana in either case. 3 or less cost = good, use 4+ mana cards very sparingly. Like Sanguine/Exquisite are simply too slow to be good imo.
Now, depending on your budget, you could do something like.....
4 Viscera Seer , 4 Bloodghast , 4 Blood Artist or Kalastria Highborn , 4 Cordial Vampire , maybe 4 Vampire Nocturnus or Vampire Lacerator and 2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet or Captivating Vampire , or maybe even 4 Dusk Legion Zealot or Gatekeeper of Malakir .
For hate spells, usable ones are things like Fatal Push , Lightning Bolt , Path to Exile , Terminate , Cast Down , Kolaghan's Command , or if you have money, Liliana of the Veil , Liliana, the Last Hope , and also to bring him up on this subject: Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord . Hand disruption is expensive, looking at Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek , and Collective Brutality . But black has almost a monopoly on that.
Hope this gave you some insight. Welcome to the dark side.
5 days ago
well, butcher ghoul is not that good unless you put a sac engine into this deck like Carrion Feeder , in general cmc is too high. i think cemetery reaper is a bad zombie lord because he doesn't do much, it makes u spend mana and tap him. death baron is ok. diregraf colossus ok too (death baron and diregraf colossus are only lords i would play). diregraf ghoul can be replaced with Gravecrawler (can't miss him in a zombie deck) or Dread Wanderer (a bit slow but still fine). u should play at least 8x 1mana zombies. graveyard marshal is not so bad but of course he can be replaced too, maybe with Relentless Dead .
liliana's triumph is ok. murder should be replaced with Fatal Push or at least Defile . vile rebirth can be nice only for sideboard because you can't cast it if you don't exile a creature from enemy graveyard (you dont want to exile yours!).
Call to the grave is just too slow for modern. Endless rank of the deads could be playable but not more than 2x of it.
Liliana death majesty again has a very high cmc, so i would not consider buying her. Of course there are better lilianas: Liliana of the Veil (too expensive), Liliana, the Last Hope (again very expensive), Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip affordable and still nice, Liliana, Untouched By Death is still better than death majesty but honestly i won't play her.
You should play a good mix of creature destroying cards and some discard for at least trying being a bit more competitive.
1 week ago
Sometimes you can just run big flying sticks and smash your opponent in the face. Try out Vilis, Broker of Blood , Sigarda, Host of Herons , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled . Or maybe some more powerful walkers like Garruk, Caller of Beasts and Elspeth, Sun's Champion to overwhelm your opponent.
There are also some powerful legendaries you haven't added like Vivien, Champion of the Wilds , Whip of Erebos , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , God-Eternal Oketra , God-Eternal Rhonas , Shalai, Voice of Plenty , Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet , Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim , Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist , Anafenza, the Foremost , Kataki, War's Wage , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , etc.
Your deck lacks initiative on the graveyard plays. You need some stuff to fill the bin early and quickly like Mesmeric Orb , Perpetual Timepiece , Nyx Weaver , Anvil of Bogardan , Liliana, Death's Majesty , Liliana, the Last Hope , Liliana's Indignation , etc.
2 weeks ago
Hmmm as for what to cut I'm in a similar place. He's a definite four-of if I'm not using Liliana, still a 3 if I am. The "version 2" of my deck is way closer to your more control-oriented shell. I'm ironing out the wrinkles still, there are too many vamps now worthy of a slot. I remember when I ran 14 mainboard turn 1 creatures, seriously. Cordial Vampire is a really good card imo too because he paints a target on his head for removal and punishes opponents for getting trigger happy with their bolts. Also besides IoK and Thoughtseize, Rakdos has REALLY gotten a lot of POWERFUL control options recently, many synergize with Ghast. We had Terminate and Lightning Bolt already, then we got Liliana of the Veil in the same set as Olivia and crew, then Liliana, the Last Hope , Kolaghan's Command , Fatal Push and Collective Brutality . Oh and now Unearth is legal. Liliana's Triumph and Cast Down on the power creep train.
I was kinda ehh over Zealot at first, but I mean draw power is at a premium, and he's a vamp who affects the game upon coming into play, a removal on him is pointless. I'm seriously on the fence over Legion Lieutenant being worth an entire white splash.
Oh and My Chikage/Evelyn l100 build recently got a full set of 32.6% blood damage gems via new breakthroughs in chalice dungeon farming. The Holy Grail of blood gems according to the community. I use the BoM w/ brainsucker nourishing flat arcanes as a secondary for r1 spammers and speed control. This build is terrifying. A vampire who can 2-shot 120s with a parry tool. I've also been really fond of the Charred hunter set because it has decent stats and I look like Victorian Batman.
2 weeks ago
Aurex Sorin 1 is a strict control card, flavorful or not, and is honestly too much mana for a format where you wanna have your wincon set up by turn 4-6 at latest. Liliana of the Veil is a serious contender for the best planeswalker in the game. Liliana, the Last Hope is top 5 as well. Sorin's good but imo not viable in modern for a not UBx control deck.
2 weeks ago
Hi there, thanks for taking an interest in my decks. About zombies: It's still hard to have a Tier 1 deck, but you can make something really competitive nonetheless. The thing is, as you know, dropping low-cost and efficient creatures is mandatory for Modern. I'll give you some zombie cards to consider, 3 CMC max:
- Carrion Feeder a reprint from Scourge, enables many combos and grows big
- Gravecrawler is a must have
- Relentless Dead also enters in 95% of the decks
- Cryptbreaker is a good 1 drop
- Dread Wanderer is a bit slow for my taste but acceptable
- Undead Augur allows for good card draw and advantage, as many creatures die in this archetype. Beware of burning yourself too much tho
- Tidehollow Sculler demands splashing white but the payoff is worth it
- Death Baron gives amazing Lord buff with deathtouch
- Diregraf Colossus enables token generation and combos really well with Gravecrawler . Not everyone likes him tho
- Lord of the Undead is sometimes prefered on mainboard over the Colossus. Personally I like the tokens better
- Cemetery Reaper is also good
- Gray Merchant of Asphodel deserves a mention because it can turn the tide late game if you have a lot of non-token creatures in play
These are my favorite zombie creatures. There are a few more around but for Modern I think the ones I mentioned are the ones that really shine. But please do search and see if you find any other you prefer
Then you need to worry about interaction. Bet on discard cards like Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek and even Duress , as they are good control and your only way of getting rid of artifacts and enchantments. Creature killers are a must as well: Fatal Push , Spark Harvest , Go for the Throat , Tragic Slip , Dismember or Defile (when you have many basic lands only). The last three kill indestructible creatures
It's a good idea to have some other spells. Reanimation like Ghoulcaller's Chant and Unearth sits well with what we're trying to do. One or two copies of Sign in Blood might be something to consider as well. Also you can try enchantments that benefit on death like Grave Pact or Open the Graves . Endless Ranks of the Dead and Whip of Erebos are amazing too. If you have planeswalkers, do not be tempted by their abilities while forgetting the mana cost and the turns you need to activate ultimates. Liliana, Dreadhorde General is nice but too expensive and slow. Try Liliana, the Last Hope or Liliana, Untouched By Death instead if you insist on planeswalking. If you're lucky enough to have Liliana of the Veil , then use it
Hope I helped somehow. If you have questions please ask! Also, if you like Rakdos I invite you to check my deck Hell Awaits. Have fun and good games
1 month ago
Okay, the easyest ways to upgrade this deck are:
This frees up fourteen slots.
To fill them I would add:
4x Undead Augur
Other (expensive) options:
Gravecrawler is great, but after it spiked, it might be a little to expensive. If you ever do add Gravecrawler , Carrion Feeder is insane. Tidehollow Sculler is one of the best zombies, but without expensive lands, it might not be the right fit.
Thoughtseize : Although you probably don't want to play Inquisition, Sculler and Thoughtseize , they are all good cards. Blood Moon compleatly shuts down some decks, while mostly leaving red decks intact. Leyline of the Void is A+ Sideboard Material, and is always a good cards to play in the 15.
Bloodstained Mire , Polluted Delta , Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt are all staples of R/B manabases, because of the fetchlands ability to fetch Blood Crypt . Because of this, they are at a crazy price right now, but they are the best.
1 month ago
MoonHollow124 Force of Despair is contending with Damnation for the sideboard slot, it is true that it punishes humans and other aggressive go wide decks if they have a big turn 2/3 that you really need to answer. In this regard it might be better then Damnation for that single turn, but Jund still tries disrupt the hand enough with our discard so that big turn can not happen or happens later on. Also we run alot of very effective removal spells in Lightning Bolt , Fatal Push and Abrupt Decay with notable mentions of Kolaghan's Command and Maelstrom Pulse .
Both Wrenn and Six and Liliana, the Last Hope are very good at killing of their small creatures without being in direct danger of being removed themselves, Wrenn on turn 2 killing Champion of the Parish is great value and leaves Wrenn at a comfortable 2 loyalty going into their turn 2 (on the play). On the draw these planeswalker arent as effective and only Liliana of the Veil is guaranteed to remove 1 creature to then most likely die on their next turn.
Against humans or other decks that run Thalia, Guardian of Thraben it might be too late to cast either a single removal on Thalia to follow up next turn with Anger of the Gods or Damnation , but playtesting will have to be the deciding factor here.
For now I have a sideboard slot that is easily switched out in the form of Reap the Past as I am convinced this card will do little yet I do want to give the card some play before I decide. I could very well run the Force instead of this card and give myself 3 sideboard wipe options against go wide decks
But it is more likely that Reap the Past will be switched with more graveyard disruption, leaving Force to contend with Damnation.
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