Liliana, the Last Hope
Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-1 until your next turn.
-2: Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then you may return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
-7: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your end step, create X 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens, where X is two plus the number of Zombies you control."
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|Guilds of Ravnica: Mythic Edition (GRNMED)||Mythic Rare|
|Eldritch Moon (EMN)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Liliana, the Last Hope occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.17%
All decks: 0.48%
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Liliana, the Last Hope Discussion
1 week ago
Obliterator is great when Path to Exile usage is low to non-existent and counterspells are few and far between.
Thus the card is far from its greatest in today's meta.
(However - contrary to the common misconception - getting to BBBB is easy if you manage to have 4 lands by turn 4, twhen you play a 2 colored eck)
I recommended Shriekmaw as it does something early game, and its absolutely broken with all the "return creature from graveyard to hand" spells in your deck, cards like Liliana, the Last Hope.
Sure, its far less flashy than something than Verdurous Gearhulk, and wins slower - however it keeps the field clear, and gives you time to win.
While you can VERY easily die with a gearhulk in hand before you could ever use it.
Obstinate Baloth is a great hate card against discard decks, for any deck that plays combo, and a "passable" card in the burn matchup.
Sadly hardcasting it is asking a lot.
In the sense that it does too little for its cost, UNLESS you want to simply stall a little to win with something like a lethal scapeshift.
In the era where Gurmag Angler, Thing in the Ice Flip & Bedlam Reveler are running around the card is surprisingly squishy, to win the game.
And does too little at helping you achieve that goal, beside being a body.
Unless you run something like elves, i owuld stay away from God-Eternal Rhonas. Its a great improvement there as a recurrable pump effect in face of all the counterspells and discard.
However in this deck, its only good when you are already winning anyways, and does little to nothing in any other case.
4 weeks ago
I would wait to buy until after next Monday, as there will be a banned and restricted announcement that might hit Dig Through Time. Other than that, operating under the assumption that the B&R kills Inverter this deck or something very close to it seems like it might be pretty awesome against the creature heavy aggro plans and the newer greedy decks like Green Devotion and Heliod Devotion. I will say that you probably want main deck 4 Thoughtseize, 3-4 Censor, and 3-4 Absorb to try and do something about the tomfoolery that has dictated the format thus far. As a side note, Liliana, the Last Hope is a really good card and your win condition, dont be afraid to run more of her and less of Opt or Oath of Kaya.
1 month ago
Hey weezle101 ! Thanks a lot for your suggestions, I totally agree with it. The reason (and the only) why I am not currently running Kolaghan's Command and Liliana, the Last Hope is because of Budget.
I also agree for the 4th Polluted Delta, but same here ;)
The only thing I would not agree is the -1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker for Kolaghan's Command here. This card has got me so much games that I just don't want to get rid of it, yet. Maybe I would cut 1x Rise / Fall and 1x Inquisition of Kozilek, or maybe other spots, I don't know yet.
I'll get the cards one day, for sure :)
1 month ago
Mainboard Ideas: Swap Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker for Kolaghan's Command. Maybe consider trimming 1/4 Blood Crypts to add a fourth Polluted Delta to help the Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger escape plan.
1 month ago
Lots of subthemes you got there, that's some interesting challenge. All in all, you're running way too many high-costed cards for a Commander that generally revolves around more of an aggressive strategy. I'll further provide you a personalized list of adjustments, trying my best to keep it at the lowest budget as possible.
Very first thing, 37 lands is too much for an Anafenza deck imo. You can easily go down to 35/34 in order to feel more proactive. That being said, the mana base of your decklist is pretty unstable, and you'll need better mana rocks, around 5/6 good rocks should do it helping you stabilizing.
The second thing to bring up is that you play loads and loads of creatures with actually specific abilities that don't always combine altogether well. Like, for example, in which way would Slimefoot, the Stowaway help Anafenza, the Foremost being consistent? My answer, without another kind of appreciation than logic: not any single one. If you need cheap legendary to keep it up with your theme, there are better options, but remind that this was only a little example.
Finally, you lack reactivity because of very few instant/flash spells. It's not as necessary as some think, but still have a way to protect dutifully your creatures is a key for aggro/midrange decks in EDH. Being able to answer what your opponents bring up to the tape is moreover essential, and I don't see enough removals/tricks in there.
So, let's take a closer look from now on. I'll make some different categories starting with the cuts to make it easier to read.
1.) Back to 100 cards:
Abzan Battle Priest > not bad on its own, fits decently in some casual decks with +1/+1 as their central archetype. It's not a good card to include since you aren't only focusing on this aspect. It's too slow, unreliable.
Abzan Falconer > same comment
Mer-Ek Nightblade > still the same / it's even the worst one
Tuskguard Captain > still and still water
Spirit of the Hearth > overcosted, overrated, no particular reason to include this card there even if a Cat Spirit feels pretty cool
Wingmate Roc > not bad but too slow, doesn't synergize well with your themes, in concurrence with just better cards on the spot
Soul of the Harvest > overcosted card draw outlet, I'll procure you some better option for a cheap price
Slimefoot, the Stowaway > despite being legendary, doesn't do much
Reya Dawnbringer > recursion is like... really good, but damn this card is slow and bad. You have to wait one whole turn for it to trigger, with only cards like Shalai, Voice of Plenty in your list to protect it. Yeah, I don't think it'll happen often. Definitively cut.
Noosegraf Mob > +1/+1 card but without any real synergies. You have better options.
Lena, Selfless Champion > too slow
Hornet Queen > good card but doesn't fit in there, seems like a weird choice of token generator
Parhelion II > cool card, poor consistency there
Quietus Spike > same: cool card, poor consistency
Kaya, Bane of the Dead > slow removal, pretty bad imo
Brave the Sands > non-mbo with Anafenza, overrated card
Abundance > good card, not needed there
Kin-Tree Invocation > not bad not good, lacks interactions
Mirari's Wake > same comment as for Abundance
Leyline of Abundance > not enough interactions
Panharmonicon > not enough interactions
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice > not enough interactions
Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord > not enough interactions
3 basic lands
2.) Cheap Improvements:
2.1.) Mana Rocks:
Sol Ring > yeh it's boring to see this card everywhere I know
Fellwar Stone > excellent mana rock, tapping for every color most of the time
2.2.) More removals:
Those are the classical ones you surely know. They are easily affordable and would give your deck a small lift at controlling the board state.
2.3.) Better Legendaries:
Mikaeus, the Lunarch > not the cheapest already, but really effective, almost a staple for your deck style
Hope of Ghirapur > underrated card, does a lot, insane with recursion to lock down a combo player at low cost
Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit > certainly a staple / and somewhat a reason to get rid of the token subtheme which is maybe a bit too much
Syr Faren, the Hengehammer > also certainly a staple / aggressive, good interactions with Anafenza, better than lords already in your deck
Kethis, the Hidden Hand > Yawgmoth's Will for legendaries? I'll take that. It could also be a nice alternative commander when you face more control-ish decks you're stuck against, enabling you to have an efficient late game on its own once made your commander.
Mangara of Corondor > Legendary creature which works as a nonsituational removal. Really good. Even if you can't always activate it when it hits the table, your opponents have to get rid of it using their hand resources and you make 1 for 1.
Masako the Humorless > Underplayed card / can be a game-changer / and it's a legendary creature.
2.4.) Voltron Outlet:
Sword of the Animist > ramp while keeping the pressure on your opponents
Hero's Blade > certainly a staple there with your legendary subtheme
Blackblade Reforged > same comment as for Hero's Blade
2.5.) Other cool cards to look at:
Throne of the God-Pharaoh > feels like a staple / Legendary
Vivien's Arkbow > cheap tutor / overall excellent
Vivien, Champion of the Wilds > flash out your creatures for more survivability and tricks
Primevals' Glorious Rebirth > excellent win condition / recursion
Kamahl's Druidic Vow > excellent win condition / Genesis wave for legendaries' madmen
Eladamri's Call > staple / it's cheap now that it's been re-edited in Modern Horizons, I'll try to get a copy of it by trading/buying it if I were you
3.) Medium Budget Improvements:
3.1.) Mana Rocks:
3.2.) Even more removals:
3.3.) Legendaries' Staples:
Rishkar, Peema Renegade > nice ramp, +1/+1 counters, overall really strong
3.4.) Neverending Voltron Outlet:
Konda's Banner > Yeh, it's a little bit expensive money speaking, but it does everything you're searching for, like a bridge between your Cats, your legends and your Voltron strategy.
Skullclamp > staple
3.5.) Cool cards:
Eternal Witness > best green recursion card
Green Sun's Zenith > one of the best green tutors
Scout's Warning > good card overall, cycles when you don't need it
4.) Expensive Improvements:
Finale of Devastation > tutor, win condition, not a necessity though
Blade of Selves > good equipment, not a necessity
Umezawa's Jitte > Core tool of lots of Voltron decks, would be necessary if you want to confront this deck to more competitive ones.
Swords' package > same comment as for the Jitte
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben > meta-depending staple
Gaddock Teeg > meta-depending staple
Liliana, the Last Hope > card-draw/legendary
Loyal Retainers > staple if you're going more in the legendary archetype
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds > card-draw/legendary/ramp
Reki, the History of Kamigawa > card-draw/legendary
Captain Sisay > staple / tutor / legendary
5.) Some other cards you could try (which I mostly haven't, or for which I have a doubt about their efficiency):
Sigil of Distinction > feels Voltron-ish
Sigiled Sword of Valeron > interacts with Anafenza, creates tokens, Voltron equipment
Masterwork of Ingenuity > I used it long ago in my Tajic's deck, which was globally a Voltron deck running between 15/20 pieces of equipment. Dunno if it could be of use there but it's a good card for sure.
Heart of Kiran > good card overall, you can Crew it and buff the creature you used to do so with Anafenza. That being said, I think it may reveal too inconsistent.
Sensei Golden-Tail > seems funny
Kunoros, Hound of Athreos > powerful hate-bear with good stats and abilities, certainly really good in a more good-stuff oriented iteration.
Isamaru, Hound of Konda > Lil' bro' of Kunoros doubtlessly, made for aggressive purposes. Good overall.
Thalia, Heretic Cathar > also more of a good-stuff card.
Taranika, Akroan Veteran > I never played her but damn she seems strong af.
Hua Tuo, Honored Physician > repeatable recursion.
Pir, Imaginative Rascal > not that I dislike it, however Hardened Scales already was a bad card if I'm honest. Pir is a tad bit better. Certainly better than Corpsejack Menace you're running, and carries more interactions.
1 month ago
How about going straight GB?
- 4 rhino - 1 obzedat - 1 Unmaking from the main deck
4 loxodon, - 2 anafenza -2 dromoka -2 kambal - 1 trophy (you have 5 in the 75 cards) from the SB
2 months ago
I'd say pick better friends. When judging a planeswalker in other decks, you mainly look at the first 2 abilities and judge how protected a planeswalker is after Plus-ing or how vulnerable they are after Minus-ing and how planeswalkers can protect themselves.
Let's look at how we usually evaluate planeswalkers. Garruk, Cursed Huntsman . 5 Loyalty > Pretty Good Body that can take a bit of damage. A 0 ability isn't the best, but it makes blockers that your opponents don't want to attack into because Garruk gets bigger. -3 kills any attackers while also drawing a card. -6 Win the game with Combat Damage. We're usually going to be looking at the first and second abilities, however, as it can't be easy in all situations to get to -6
Not in Atraxa though.
The amount of loyalty that a planeswalker can get in one turn is much higher than normal, so we instead look at the Ultimates and the Second abilities mainly. A planeswalker in this deck can minus all the way and still live and generate value. Therefore, we play planeswalkers that are stronger in a vacuum
Sure, Kiora or Ajani, the Greathearted are great with creatures on the board and things to interact with, but on their own, they don't go anywhere. On the other hand, a planeswalker like Venser or Teferi may be hard to get to ultimate in a normal game but is almost a guarantee in an Atraxa deck.
For most decks, you look at how averagely the planeswalker does. For example, Jace, the Mind Sculptor . Maybe, in a game, you bounce a few things, brainstorm a couple of times, and start to fateseal. However, Jace's ultimate is very hard to get just by using his +2, so very rarely would we base his power just off that. But in Atraxa, with added proliferate, we can easily get the ultimate for Jace and basically win on the spot.
Ajani, Caller of the Pride - What creatures? Atraxa maybe, but what creatures will you have early in the game? 1/10
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes - Pretty OK in that it can dig for more planeswalkers. Don't play it for the Counters, you have very few creatures. Gain 100 Life would be used as a panic button, not something you should try to get to, just keep using his second ability until you find better planeswalkers. 5/10
Ajani, the Greathearted - Puts loyalty counters on things. Gives creatures vigilance, which makes them able to block and protect the planeswalkers, but there are few creatures here that block well. 6/10
Ajani Unyielding - Getting to swords something every turn is very powerful, and he digs for more planeswalker. 8/10
Ashiok, Dream Render - Why? Bojuka Bog and Scavenging Ooze are both on color here? As is Aven Mindcensor , which, if you're looking at that static ability, is WAY better because the bird can attack and has flash. It may look worse because it still lets them look at the top 4, but this is 100 card singleton, your opponents never get what they wanted. Also, the flash is super relevant because, against Ashiok, people just hold their tutors until Ashiok is gone, but the bird can come unexpectedly, basically nullifying at least 1 tutor 1/10
Jace, Arcane Strategist - Draws 1 card, but for 6 mana. Can't put counters on creatures you don't have. 1/10
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets - First ability is already good, the second one can make for some pretty good locks, and the ultimate really stalls the game and lets your other planeswalkers build loyalty. 8/10
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries - Drawing 7 cards makes for a pretty good ultimate, even if he's a little hard to cast on turn 4. Very possible to draw 7. 7/10
Liliana of the Dark Realms - The worst Liliana. It doesn't do enough since everything is tied to your Swamps. Sure with Urborg, it's good, but 1 in 98 (You can't fetch Urborg because in your library it isn't a Swamp). Play Liliana, the Last Hope because EMBLEM. 1/10
Mu Yanling - The only real good thing is the minus because you only have 2 haymakers that would want to attack. The Ultimate would be good in a creature in a creature deck because it lets you attack without blockers, but this isn't a creature deck. Also, your proliferate is not fast enough to keep up with -3 every turn. Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer is cheaper and protects herself while providing extreme endgame value. 4/10
Sorin Markov - "Oops you're dead". Sorin will always -3 on the turn he comes in obviously. However, with enough proliferate, you can Mind Slaver eventually after that. As your opponent tries to claw back, you'll be able to waste all their work. 8/10
Teferi, Temporal Archmage - Pretty good Ultimate with some card selection thrown in. 8/10
Ugin, the Ineffable - Most of your colorless spells are Ramp so static is kinda a meh. However, having played Ugin Jr., the manifest ability is quite good and provides a more interesting form of card advantage. Also, in this deck, you'll be using the -3 a lot more. 8.5/10
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - The perfect planeswalker for this deck. A powerful ultimate that usually take ~3-4 turns can be done in 2 and can put more planeswalkers into play. 10/10
Venser, the Sojourner - Don't know what you'll be flickering, but it can just be anything for value and still probably be good. Extremely powerful ultimate; wins games. 9/10
Vraska the Unseen - Controls the board and, in this deck, wins the game a lot faster. Versatile removal with the -3, which can be used a lot more often. 9/10
In general, I don't think you have enough proliferate. You have 3 spells with the word proliferate and one of them is Atraxa. You do have a lot of cards that would work great with more proliferate that aren't planeswalkers. Doubling Season, Blightsteel, and Shalai would all work super well with more repeatable proliferate. As with most tribal decks (This is sort of just Planeswalker Tribal), you do need to find the balance between Creatures of the tribe and Tribal Boosters. For example, why play Rhystic Study or Enlightened Tutor when you can just play another Planeswalker or Proliferate card. These cards are there specifically for value, but the Planeswalkers and Proliferate cards are your value engines.
Planeswalkers are very powerful, which is why Atraxa is one of the most popular Commanders, so play more of them. Will Kenrith for value, Tamiyo, Field Researcher for value, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria for more value. Take a look at these planeswalkers to see what to play. These planeswalkers by themselves are incredible and win can easily win games. However, with Atraxa, things get even better