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Rishkar's Expertise Discussion
4 days ago
Cards to take out: Lightning Bolt is pretty weak in Commander; Magma Spray same; Tribute to the Wild should be Krosan Grip in my opinion but making each opponent sac isn't bad either; Hostile Desert you want lands to come back and they don't do that from exile; Dictate of the Twin Gods is iffy it can bite you in the butt; Amulet of Vigor not seeing enough tapped cards to make this worth it; Titania's Chosen; Naga Vitalist should be Arbor Elf or Llanowar Elves or Birds of Paradise; Mycoloth and Inferno Titan don't really fit the theme
Cards to add: Gruul Signet, Solemn Simulacrum, Talisman of Impulse, Rite of the Raging Storm, Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves, Ramunap Excavator, Burgeoning, Reforge the Soul, Explore, Thran Dynamo, Mind Stone, Rishkar's Expertise
All suggestions of course
5 days ago
Some thoughts on some of your card choices, in no particular order.
Sylvan Reclamation for all intents and purposes in a deck like this is strictly better than Relic Crush. Trading out one generic mana for one White mana (which 99 times out of 100 you WILL have) gets you basic landcycling AND exile instead of destroy. The switch is a no-brainer, imo.
Thought Vessel isn't doing a ton for this deck. How often will you be at or above your hand limit for more than a turn or two? Card draw in GW isn't that impressive, even with Rishkar's Expertise and company. I think you'd be better off with Talisman of Unity over Thought Vessel, and I'd dump the Spellbook for a Sol Ring so you can get some more ramp going.
For a deck that wants to get ahead early, I believe you're running far too many ETB tapped lands. Blossoming Sands, Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mosswort Bridge, Myriad Landscape, and Stirring Wildwood will all set you back a turn on mana production. I'd say Temple of Plenty too, but at least you're getting the scry on that. I'm Opting not to run that, but that's your call! Get some more rocks in there like Selesnya Signet, and be on the lookout for the new Unclaimed Territory in Ixalan, which is pretty much budget Cavern of Souls. Some more relevant utility lands like Rogue's Passage over Reliquary Tower would be worthwhile, too.
If you can, I'd sooner run Brimaz, King of Oreskos over Jedit Ojanen of Efrava. The forestwalk is nice, but 6 mana is steep. Brimaz is only 3 CMC and provides an excellent source defense with Vigilance.
Running Lost Leonin signals to me that you want to use Infect combined with the Arahbo's eminence for a quick kill. Double Strike enablers like Duelist's Heritage, Silverblade Paladin, and Ajani, Caller of the Pride (did somebody ask for flavor?) are huge boons for this, and in general allow you to get the most of Arahbo's pumps. Not to mention them having 3 CMC and similar casting costs as Lost Leonin lead to a superb curve out of your plays. Grafted Exoskeleton also turns any of your cats into a bigger Lost Leonin, for what it's worth!
The last comment that I'll make, and this stems from "mistakes" I was making when first build this deck, is too much focus on cheap cats as soon as quickly being too big a focus. Smashing your opponent for 6 with a 2-drop sounds appealing, but that's only going to go so far in multiplayer. If you're doing 1v1 commander, that's largely fine, but you'll want to diversify your line-up if you want to hold your own in multiplayer. Admittedly, I'm still trying to squeeze these in my own deck, but it wouldn't be remiss of you to include cards like Reveillark and Karmic Guide in here for some recursion. (Also, those two go infinite with Leonin Relic-Warder, Greater Good, and a mana rock!)
6 days ago
Hey slayingmatt1234 thanks for the feedback, all suggestions are appreciated!
After looking through your deck, it does seem like we've taken quite the different direction to Karametra. When I first brewed this deck, I wanted to take advantage of the flash/recursion creatures that trigger his landfall ability into the most powerful X cost spells I could find. This led me towards a lot of mana doublers, high ramp spells, and even ramp creatures. The end result led me into 2 recurring scenarios in play; snowball out of control with 13+ lands by turn 5-6 consistently pulling Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (My personal favourite card), or getting consistently locked down by the 3 other players who do not want to see Vorinclex every game.
Now for your suggestions, I used to run Stonecloaker for the same reason you mentioned, but I never found using him more than once a turn to be helpful, and any of the enchantress creatures at same or less cost seemed to net me card advantage more often if not always.
Knight of the Reliquary seemed to play too slow for me, I put a lot of creature tutoring so my main landfall triggers have to be multiple triggers in a turn. I found the same with Emeria Shepherd, thought a GREAT card, I just never looked to pick it over any 7+ drop that I normally tutor for. I also leaned towards creature protection over recursion, with cards like Eerie Interlude, Heroic Intervention, and Teferi's Protection, I always found the instant answer to boardwipes to lean in my favor and end up setting everyone else behind.
I will look to add more enchantments if I can find some that tackle the main decks in my playgroup. In my playgroup specifically, I found some interesting answers that I included in the deck. Ground Seal against The Scarab God deck, Blind Obedience against Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder 's Sneak Attack + Maelstrom Wanderer deck, and Stony Silence + Aura of Silence against Sharuum the Hegemon artifact control deck + Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith voltron equipment. The end result now, was a consistent easy 3v1 win.
If you had the pleasure of speaking to any of my friends in my playgroup, they'd tell you that in play, this deck is a TERROR. Ulvenwald Hydra is a champ for cheating Rogue's Passage into play into an easy 20+ damage, an early Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger through Natural Order always locks my opponents to pay from behind, and Worldspine Wurm becomes so easy to play with Fauna Shaman + Garruk, Caller of Beasts / Selvala's Stampede. Any of the instant X spells with a mana doubler guarantees a win ( White Sun's Zenith, Entreat the Angels, Hydra Broodmaster ). A well timed Rishkar's Expertise into Overwhelming Stampede or Genesis Wave closes out easy.
1 week ago
Not sure if you've played this list yet, but that land count seems a little low. The deck does look sweet overall though.
Thoughts on Rishkar's Expertise?
1 week ago
1 week ago
In no particular order, here are some suggestions:
Replace Relic Crush with Sylvan Reclamation. Both are 5 mana instants that remove up to two artifacts/enchantments. While Sylvan Reclamation requires the more specific casting cost of instead of , the difference is negligible in a 2 color deck. Sylvan is otherwise completely superior since it exiles AND cycles for a basic land if you want. It's less than 50 cents so it's a great budget addition.
I'd personally simplify the mana base by getting rid of most of the ETB tapped lands. Arahbo is an aggressive commander, meaning that ideally you want to be hitting your land drops each turn in order to get the most of your mana base. My personal build only has two of these lands: Path of Ancestry for the scry, and Scattered Groves as a dual land that would often ETB tapped from my ramp spells like Cultivate anyways.
While it costs more than Soul's Majesty (and you lose out on the Cat flavor), Rishkar's Expertise is a superior card in my opinion. The free cast of any 5 CMC or lower card is huge in a deck like this, but more importantly is the fact that it isn't as vulnerable to targeted removal. If you target a single creature with Soul's Majesty, and an opponent Path to Exile's it, all of a sudden you just spent 5 mana on nothing. If your biggest creature gets eliminated after using Rishkar's Expertise, you still get to draw cards off of your second biggest creature.
Angelic Gift provides decent evasion and serves as a cantrip, but otherwise isn't repeatable or usable for multiple creatures like some of your other cards would be. Rogue's Passage is a simple land that allows any creature to attack unblocked, even getting past your opponent's fliers. If you are set on flying, Gryff's Boon is cheaper at only , but can be recurred from your graveyard. It's kinda like a higher CMC Rancor in that sense.
The rest of my suggestions would depend greatly on how you build this deck. I see that you've kept a majority of the cards from the precon in here. The issue here is that in order for the deck to be really effective, you should choose one of a few deck focuses:
- Pump - Going tall with Arahbo
- Voltron - Equipment focus with Nazahn
- Tokens - Going wide with Mirri
There are other ways to build each of these commanders, but generally speaking these are the directions you'll see most players take them for tribal. Personally, I decreased the equipment focus in my own deck to focus on Arahbo's eminence ability, but it's ultimately your call on what direction you'd like to take your cat tribal.
1 week ago
My original list had no blue and ran 4x Manalith and 3x Rishkar's Expertise in place of Nissa, Steward of Elements and Chart A Course. The Expertise was my only source of card draw but was too clunky and relied on me having a creature on the board, which wasn't always the case.
I admit that adding blue put a strain on my mana base but I couldn't resist using Nissa, Steward of Elements. She is just too good in this deck. For one, she helps me dig into my deck to find what I need. More often than not she comes in with enough loyalty to immediately ultimate and win the game or turn the tide.
The 20 lands aren't usually a problem as I have 16 non-land cards that produce/fetch land for me.
1 week ago
Hello there! Got some ideas for you. First off I feel Like if you want to maximize your Gishath triggers you want to max out on dinos. Like 40-45 dinos, 45-50 mana sources, 10-20 other spells seems right for a dedicated tribal ramp deck. If you need more dinos after Ixilan is all known don't be afraid to include Mirror Entity, Taurean Mauler and Chameleon Colossus.
I would cut things that rearrange the top few cards. Gishath can look at the top 7 cards anyways unless you can rearrange more cards than that it seems pointless.
For ramp spells I would focus on ways that you can put lands right into play as opposed to Mana rocks or Mana dorks which can die. I feel like a deck like this that wins by committing to the board should avoid doing that with everything because you're already weak to board wipes. I'm less a fan of a card that reduces the cost of casting a dinosaur then just a good Explosive Vegetation effect which ramps everything. Anyways how many times are you going to cast more than one in a turn? Except sol ring that goes in everything, right?
As far as the 10 to 20 other kinds of cards I have some ideas...Pyrohemia is probably the best enrage enabler I know plus it's really good. Lightmine Field seems good for those reasons too if its important too trigger enrage and defend the board simultaneously. Rishkar's Expertise looks good and awesome. Asceticism, Heroic Intervention and Teferi's Protection to protect your stuff. Relentless Assault and Seize the Day kinds of cards combined with blanket haste from cards like Fires of Yavimaya could get epic. Garruk, Primal Hunter and Garruk Wildspeaker are both solid options. Marshal's Anthem is a great spell for a deck like this.
Honestly I have been thinking about building one of these decks myself because it looks fun. Happy gathering!