Heroic Intervention

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Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Standard Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Brawl Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Aether Revolt (AER) Rare

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Heroic Intervention

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Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.

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Heroic Intervention Discussion

RedmundR2 on Gruul Pride

3 days ago

I feel like your deck is begging for some more ramp. You can consider stuff like Llanowar Elves, Arbor Elf + Utopia Sprawl, Birds of Paradise etc. In modern you need to be able to have your deck either win or be in position to win by turn 4, and theres quite a few 4 and 5 drops in the deck that you wont be able to play before those turns without more consistent ramp. I also don't think Lure is necessary. Vines of Vastwood might not be necessary either as you are playing a threat nearly every turn and control decks will struggle to remove all of your threats without a board wipe regardless, which vines doesnt help with. You might want Heroic Intervention instead. I would consider adding more burn if you want to go an aggro route like Lightning Bolt. And of course for the sideboard I recommend some form of artifact removal like Naturalize, Possibly some early board control tools against aggro like Pyroclasm.

Also, i'd hardly classify this deck as a combo deck :P

JohnnyCRO on Intet of Infinite Dreams (Combo)

4 days ago

@hkhssweiss

Sorry for taking my time, exams are a thing.

I completely agree that red is meh compared to those 2. IMHO green and blue are the strongest colors in EDH, while red leaves much to be desired here. Every deck containing red I ever tried to theorycraft/build ended up having red as a splash for artifact removal, a wheel or two and a few looters (Mizzix, Kess, even Daretti was more colorless than he was red). It's just that the moment I saw Bloom Tender I started drooling over a potential t3 Intet. And just as that thought make me happy, it made me just as sad to realize that it often "just" provides .

Even if it cannot go toe to toe with Zur, Teferi and similar decks, it can at least make itself relevant there. Thus both becoming a more important deck at the table, instead of being that deck that's 2 turns slower than the rest of the table, and increasing the possibility of surviving long enough to drop Intet and s(t)eal the win here and there.

  • Bring to Light - I love that rainbow lands interaction. I'm tepmpted to put it in the next semi-casual UGx deck I'll build (this might never happen, but let's keep up the good vibes). Still, we agree that id doesn't pull its weight as it is now.

  • Dack - nothing to add here

  • Nissa - I see your point. However IMO at 5 mana you should be making preparations to drop Intet instead. Also, she taps you out without providing any card advantage right away, thus opening a hefty interaction window which opponents can use to set you back more than Nissa was worth. In my experience you need a healthy amount of draw and filtering to reach 5 mana, and after that relying on her to draw cards for every land drop might not give you as many cards as you'd want/"deserve" from such an investment. Precognition Field is no Necropotence, but if you're looking for a draw engine this might be it. You're constantly a card ahead and you immediately get the chance to interact with the board/stack just as if it has drawn you a card right away. I wouldn't recommend it as an optimal choice, but I'd play it over Nissa, at least as a draw engine.

  • Heroic Intervention - I tested it briefly in Edric. And though they aren't that similar, it never did anything that a counter wouldn't be able to. But I often wanted it to be a bit more useful when opponents took the initiative and tried to push for a win.

  • red counters - as I stressed out, and we agree here, it's a meta call. We also agree on Swan Song and the reason I didn't mention it. It's one of the best counters in the format, but in a deck where you depend on your creature(s) getting through, giving anyone flying blockers isn't a good idea.

  • Krosan Grip - leave it in then. I myself kept it in my Tasigur for a long time and now I'm pointing it out whenever I see it in a deck fast/optimized enough that such cmc might be a problem.

I'd leave in Natural State depending on your meta. If you need multiple pieces of artifact/enchantment removal, this one is very underestimated IMO, and it even gets better the more competitive your meta is. However if you want/can remove a removal bc you have too much or you often use it to remove things you'd rather counter, sure.

Also Ponder is very valuable IMO. Digging 3 cards deep is quite good, and the ability to reshuffle and get a random card is also useful. At the low low price of , even sorcery speed can't diminish its usefulness IMO. I've only just noticed that you aren't playing Preordain either BTW.

Dack -> Delay, Bring to light -> Pact and Heroic intervention -> Negate are all tremendous upgrades IMO. I'd just like you to think about Nature's claim, Ponder and Nissa once more. But if you end up doing it your way, it's cool. The pilot and the builder surely knows his deck better than me, I'm just giving suggestions here.

I'm glad that my comments and advice are of help to you.

1) this is a tricky one. Good thing about KReach/Cultivate with high-cmc generals is that they both ramp you and their fix your next land drop. This is important bc high-cmc generals demand a land drop or two more than cheap ones (unless there is some insane artifact ramping going on, but that is too glass cannon for my taste), and this way you can manage to pull off those land drops elegantly while doing additional ramping. This 2 for 1 use makes it possible to have the perks of lower land count while still hitting your drops well. Of course this works best with cmc 5 generals (my best friend is playing Sigarda, Host of Herons this way and it's doing wonders for him. Hate seeing her t3/4 consistently just as much as I'm proud to have helped). However cmc of 6 would require another land drop or more ramp. And what's the point of playing ramp if it just ramps you halfway into something you want? It's about designing a good curve so your spells can work off one another. In this case, it would mind optimizing your ramp package to reach 6 mana consistently (maybe 7-8 with the new interaction package in case your meta has plenty of removal, this one is a tactical decision more than anything else). So if we say you hit your first 3 land drops, for the sake of simplicity, the question should be what can get you from that to 6 mana the fastest. With manabase as finely crafted as yours, KReach/Cultivate don't get you further than a Sol Ring or a Fellwar Stone, and by no means farther than a Mana Vault/Mana Crypt since their ensured 5 mana with raw ramping for 1 immediately isn't worth to you more than ramping for 1 cheaper ramp spells do (since your target spell, your general, has cmc of 6, not 5), but they do it on earlier turns so you can play Intet faster on occasion and they give mana without the need for green or for 3 mana already available to you.

In short; IMO cheaper ramp, be it in the form of spells, dorks or rocks, wouldn't serve you any worse than these do. But cheaper ramp would be more useful on early turns and could help you get away with a bit greedy hands. And though this covers my point, I wanted to explore it a bit more to make a wider point about ramp in general. Why those 3cmc spells are kicking ass in my friend's Sigarda, Host of Herons, why I'm planning to fill my Grand Arbiter Augustin IV with 2 cmc rocks and why Edric decks play even Boreal Druid over things like Fellwar Stone. It's about your curve, about key spells you're looking to cast and about how those two influence the card choices you make.

2) Sadly, again, red has so few excellent cards that IDK if I even could recommend many. Synergy build gave you some awesome suggestions, Orcish Lumberjack and Imperial Recruiter might indeed be what you're looking for. Apart from that, I don't think I can be of help. :-/

P.S.

Sorry for all the spelling mistakes I (might) have made. As you can imagine this took me some time to get down and I'm at least 4h behind on sleep. Thank you in advance.

hkhssweiss on Intet of Infinite Dreams (Combo)

5 days ago

JohnnyCRO

I'm generally not too worried on permanents for Bloom Tender as generally Intet is there on the battlefield with Bloom out. If not 2 for 2 is still value with the general low curve of the deck. I actually have been trying to find more red permanents or spells to add in the deck, it's just that so many of the things that red provides are just outclassed by what the blue/green side of the pie can provide. unfortunately most of the time I use Bloom Tenders mana in conjunction with Intet's...My meta doesn't see Bloom Tender in a deck with 3 colors as lets say a 5C Najeela can do.

Going on to the next point, when Intet goes off it is generally pretty hard to stop even without the counter spell back up due to having Vexing Shusher and Boseiju. Consistently she can go off by turn 5-6, but I already accepted that she can't be a true competitive tier, but I can definitely see this build as being high powered. She can't consistently pull the T3 threatening rule.

Card Choices:

  • Bring to Light I actually agree with you on this, this has been my flex spot and been actually testing it out. This was actually to mainly get my wheels as the most important thing for Intet is consistent CA or having a fully stock hand. There is the time that this can get you an extra turn due to Mana Confluence/City of Brass but the chances are unlikely to have both in play the same game.
  • Dack Fayden I agree on the same sentiments, he hasn't been spectacular, but he has his uses when I steal artifacts, but that's just it. He can help me dig but I might as well use Faithless Looting for sheer efficiency.
  • Nissa, Vital Force As I said with Bring to Light, CA is key, she does make all my land ramp spells into cantrips as well, 5 is a lot and my usual rule of the thumb is that in any competitive EDH deck 5 cmc cards have to do one of two things, A) Give an tremendous advantage or B) Wins you the game. She gives a lot of advantage in being a unkillable CA and being able to activate a turn after. She would be the last to cut if I'm given the choice atm unless there is a better consistent CA engine.
  • Heroic Intervention Now I haven't truly tested this card out as of yet as this card was swapped in from a Mox Diamond, I saw the potential and this was pre-anti counter spell mindset. So yes this card can be cut to test a counter suite package.
  • Red Elemental Blast/Pyroblast These would be more meta call cards as I would run Dispel or Flusterstorm over them. This would be the only type of deck I'm reluctant to run Swan Song however due to Intet needing a combat trigger to proc, same with any Brago decks as well lol
  • Krosan Grip currently at the moment, I'm not having any problems with this nor do I have any problems casting it and it always comes in clutch when I need the split second the most. There are plenty of Paradox combo decks in my area as well as Jhoira decks so indeed the split second is a meta call but I like it in this deck as of now.

  • I do appreciate the insight, and I am not as stubborn about the anti-counter spell as I was before like 3 years ago. My current goal is to refine Intet as far as possible, so right now these are the changes I'm going to include into Intet but I want to know your thoughts.

    These changes seems reasonable to me.


    I have a couple questions for you since you seem to have a good head on your shoulders and as well as some great perspective and MTG experience.

    1. In forgoing hard land ramp, would you think cutting cards like Kodama's Reach/Cultivate for fast rocks be better? or would you say the other way around and cut the 2 cmc ramp spells for the 2 cmc rocks as with the 3 cmc ramp they replace itself. I have already cut out Skyshroud Claim months ago and I haven't entirely missed it at all.
    2. What red permanent/spell do you know that can help this version of Intet? I been doing research a lot and I could of missed some. That has been my biggest dilemma aside from tuning Intet to the most optimal version of herself. There is a entire lack of red and basically the red is in here for the Wheel of Fortune and Vandalblast, I used to run Chaos Warp as well but that has been cut out as sometimes it can benefit the opponent more, slight chance, but a chance nonetheless.
    3. Thanks again for your insight, I have a feeling that after these next couple discussions Intet will be reborn into a new iteration of herself, I'm looking forward to hearing from you!

JohnnyCRO on Intet of Infinite Dreams (Combo)

5 days ago

Always glad to have a good discussion!

In case there really is that much mass artifact removal, this does seem like the best solution. Although I'd still consider Vault. Especially since you get to avoid the life loss clause if someone nukes it. Also, since we're discussing ramp, I've noticed how few red spells, especially permanents, you have. How does this reflect on Bloom Tender? 2cmc dork giving 3 different colored mana is sick. But when the deal drops to 2 different colored mana one has to wonder if you're getting enough value for your mana considering it has summoning sickness and dies to any wrath in the game.

I love me some Delay. I use it myself actually. However I prefer it in extremely fast decks (I use it in Edric). I would include it if there is room, but I'd give priority to (most of) the counters mentioned above. It's just a personal preference though.

Here are some suggested cuts. These seem reasonable to me, but they might be relevant to your meta more than I think;

  • Bring to Light - it's 5 mana and it can't get you an extra turn nor SP. I don't see the value.

  • Dack - fine. But in this context it's "just" fine.

  • Nissa - no significant upside I see, 5 mana is a lot for that

  • Heroic Intervention - I can see Veil being a nice tech to have a 1cmc counter without blue. But this doesn't seem to do much that Negate coouldn't. But Negate can surely do more than this thing can. Also since I'm mentioning the whole non-blue counters thing; Guttural Response, Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast might be worth it depending on your meta. I've noticed that red is the least used of your 3 colors and this way you could squeeze extra juice out of it. This is a huge "maybe" of course, but their potential makes them a worthy consideration.

  • Krosan Grip - this is a meta call. It took me a year playing green in EDH to realize it's not a staple. "The point at which you can live with the fact that sometimes your stuff will get countered is the point where you realize you don't need Krosan grip." 3 mana is a lot to remove a single permanent. If you easily have the mana open when you need it and that split second is very relevant in your meta, by all means play it! But if you notice that it slows you down significantly, that too often you don't have mana to cast it or that split second is more of a bonus than a true selling point, those might be the signs that you don't need it and that the spot is underutilized.

Hope this helps! I'm curious about your opinion.

hkhssweiss on Intet of Infinite Dreams (Combo)

6 days ago

JohnnyCRO

Hey thank for checking out my baby!

In regards to your question on the ramp, I am a bit confused by that as I am running quite of ramp in the form of Farseek, Nature's Lore, Rampant Growth, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, as well as Search for Tomorrow. I also have the fast mana rock ramp in the form of Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, and Sol Ring. I currently don't have Mox Diamond in the build due to it being swapped over to my Kess deck. In addition there is another form of ramp with lands with Exploration and Oracle of Mul Daya. Not to mention Carpet of Flowers as well. That's 12 instances of ramp and more than adequate as this is not a ramp.net deck, we only use the most efficient form of ramp. The only one that would be missing is Three Visits but I don't own one currently as of yet.

In regards to the lack of counterspells, this actually has quite of a history behind it. In the original V1 of this deck I used to run spells like Counterflux, Stifle, Misdirection, etc. however it doesn't help me to win. It just stalls this deck and slows down the speed of the combo, our main focus is to abuse Intet's ability and paying 2U to flip into a free cast counterspell is a feels bad. Most of the time we are tapping out quite a bit unless we have untappers in the form of Nature's Will or Bear Umbra or running tool box control. In the V2 I decided to go anti-counterspell route and that has actually worked out perfectly, in this iteration came in the package of Vexing Shusher and Boseiju, Who Shelters All along with tutors that can grab them reliably ex. Crop Rotation or Green Sun's Zenith. This improved the chances from our spells getting countered. The current iteration in V3 I was finally convinced that Mana Drain should be added in this deck no matter what as my friend convinced me that it is a ramp spell essentially and lo and behold it is the ONLY counterspell to make it in the deck as of now. There can be arguments where Pact of Negation can be fit in here, but when your going off on extra turns the paying 5 to protect your combo next turn is a detriment. Force of Will is actually not really good as well as most of the blue cards we are reluctant to pitch away whereas in the protection we only have to pay mana to make it uncounterable or life.

I play in a hyper competitive meta with optimized and tuned decks, this is the result of what I have currently for a "competitive" Intet deck. She is not a true competitive commander, but the deck build is competitive enough to go against other "true" commanders in a pod. She is easily cast on T3 or T4 but you have to be aware of the mindset as well, the turn you cast her, can you protect her? That's why we have cards like Autumn's Veil and Heroic Intervention. Our goal is to go off with Intet and one turn is all you need when you have any extra turn tutor in hand. We play with combat tricks and set up is important. All our early game plays is to set up overwhelming advantage and out value your opponents while disrupting them as well. We can play the long game as well, the Seasons Past combo takes 12 mana to execute, Intet short cuts this to 9 mana and we can easily achieve that by turn 4-5. Piloting Intet and decision making is also a core part of playing the deck as well as when your in the control pod you will go for the more stable route instead of burst.


I hope that clarifies some points for you, I'm always tuning and brainstorming to see how else I can perfect her, I still feel there is a better way to optimized her as I am still not fully satisfied with her yet like how I am with my Teneb deck. So I am open to any and all suggestions. This is my first EDH deck and it's been a wild ride refining her to this point. As of now the spellslinger/combo route is what I came up with as the most "optimized" version of Intet.

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