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- Will shambling vents remain a creature?
- Manlands and reanimate spells?!
- How do freeze/icy effects (Crippling Chill) and temporary creatures (man-lands/man-artifacts) interact?
- Can man lands have +1/+1 counters and auras for creatures?
- The stack, lifegain, whenever you gain life, and creatures dying in combat.
Shambling Vent enters the battlefield tapped.
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: Shambling Vent becomes a 2/3 white and black Elemental creature with lifelink until end of turn. It's still a land.
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Shambling Vent Discussion
8 hours ago
So I took the deck and did minor changes....2x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet in, since he is a vampire, and gets stupid huge. I squeezed him in by taking out the cut throat...which is a card I love, but Kalitas puts the fear on peoples faces like few other cards. I was looking for something that would protect the creatures, but haven't found it yet, some type of 'fog' technique....like a Heroic or a Blossoming Defense, but in white.
I also upped the removal, and added an extra Gideon, Ally of Zendikar for ally creating. There are several Mardu players in my meta, so Ruinous Path is almost a must have in a black deck. If you could splash it for a tiny, tiny bit of red, and run Unlicensed Disintegration, that would be a nice finisher.
After play testing a bit, I think that 4 Shambling Vent may be too much land coming in tapped especially when we want to strike fast, and apply pressure.
16 hours ago
OOOOwen, Thanks a lot for the suggestions :)
I think the life loss is fine, though sometimes gets a little heavier than I would like, it is nothing too absurd. I did add a Timely Reinforcements to the main, though, since I think it can improve a lot my survivability. I don't really like Shambling Vent, but the Vault is something I could get behind... The only thing that stops me is that I'm always afraid of losing consitency on mana. I might try it out for a few of my next games.
I already run the Breeding Pool, and I think that's enough. The reason I choose the simic-friendly dual is because all my fetches get Islands, so I would rather have this one. I almost never need it, though, it's just nice to have access to.
Abrupt Decay is an awesome card and I would love to play it, if it weren't green. I know I already have a Forest in the form of Breeding Pool, but I don't wanna be forced to fecth it so often. In such a wild deck, I need to keep things at least a little consistent.
1 day ago
Hi Red_X. You advices are very useful . I try to replace 2x Prairie Stream1x Unburial Rites2x Obzedat, Ghost Council2x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger1x Path to ExileBecouse i want to try:3x Fatal Push3x Beckcall1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn1x Shambling VentProbably Sorin is very expensive but if i can't win before the Sixth turn it can be my win-condition. thanks for you help
1 day ago
Is life loss a problem? I'm just looking at Thoughtseize, Noxious Revival, Anguished Unmaking plus shock lands. Would an extra Timely Reinforcements in the main be worth considering? Maybe even a Vault of the Archangel? Or Shambling Vent as a one-of (I know you are trying to avoid tap lands)
Sweet deck though. Looking forward to playing it.
3 days ago
Interesting build, so +1, here are my suggestions:
Most of this stuff looks like the WB control deck from standard, which is a slower format, but in modern, almost every deck is trying to kill you around turn 4, which means cards like Read the Bones, Ruinous Path, Transgress the Mind just aren't going to make the cut, if you want card draw Night's Whisper is more on curve (you lose scrying but that should be ok) Phyrexian Arena is also an option that is more dependable. While Ruinous Path, Ultimate Price, and Hero's Downfall were great in standard, 3 mana in modern should get you more, cards like Go for the Throat, Path to Exile, and Dismember are much better at dealing with creatures and are more on curve. (Also, Victim of Night kills pretty much everything in the format, so I'd play it over Grasp of Darkness. Transgress the Mind is obviously outclassed by Inqusition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize but it could probably just be 2 more Castigate, since many deck in the format like burn don't even play 3 drops.
Do you really need 26 lands? 24-25 is what most decks need to consistently play 6 drops, but that's more for you to decide. In any case, some budget duals are Isolated Chapel and Caves of Koilos, I'd probably put chapel in since you play so many basics.
This deck looks well pivoted towards beating creature based decks, but a deck like Ad Nauseeum would run right over you. I'd recommend playing 4 copies of Duress in your sideboard if you don't have inquisitions/thoughtseizes in the main.
The deck needs a sideboard plan, as mentioned above Duress seems like a good option for the deck, I'd also recommend playing Disenchant or moving some amount of Anguished Unmaking into the sideboard, since you likely wont need all of them in a game. If gravehate is needed for budget Tormod's Crypt and Nihil Spellbomb are very cheap. Extirpate can shred combo decks and couples well with discard. There are other ideas but it's all meta dependent.
While I like the idea of assembling Bruna and Gisela, I think a better plan would be to play 2 Gideon Jura, as he can fog for a turn, kill creatures, and is a finisher all by himself. Also, I think you get rid of some of your creature removal to play Lingering Souls since you are so overloaded with it and the synergy it has with cards like Sorin, Solemn Visitor is amazing. Elspeth, Knight-Errant could also be looked at as a one-of since it works with Lingering Souls and Shambling Vent.
These are my suggestions, let me know if you'd like anymore feedback.
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Thanks again Brainstrain2424. I played this deck in one FNM 9 months ago, and honestly, had no issues with not having the proper color mana when needed. It was a bit different than though. So your suggestion is 4 Concealed Courtyard AND 4 Shambling Vent? Or maybe 2 and 2? I do have the 4 Ally Encampment too don't forget, and that applies to more than half of my spells.