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Pernicious Deed Discussion
2 days ago
Muldrotha is such an awesome Commander. I put together my own list and have been playing it a while now. I'm going to give some suggestions based on my experience with our supreme Commander.
For ramp, you seem to be relying on traditional signets. Muldrotha makes some cards that usually aren't good, very good. Here's a few ramp cards that Muldrotha empowers: Sakura-Tribe Elder 1G to ramp early and infinite 1G ramp once Muldrotha is in play. Silverglade Pathfinder 1G Tap, move a card from your hand to your graveyard: repeatable ramp. Wayfarer's Bauble and Font of Fertility function basically the same as Sakura-Tribe Elder. There's also Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape. Between the 4 you have an artifact, an enchantment, a land, and a creature that you can use to ramp from the early game then continue to use repeatedly when your commander is out.
Muldrotha really loves things that sacrifice themselves to make an effect happen. You can use them to your benefit in the early game, then get repeated value after your commander comes out. In addition to the 3 ramp cards I already mentioned that sacrifice, here's a few more things that get value from sacrificing themselves: Spore Frog is probably the absolute best example. Just one green mana to fog every single turn. Siren Stormtamer is also rather amazing. As long as this bad boy is on the field, you can keep your commander or any other important creature safe from removal.
Merciless Executioner+Fleshbag Marauder are excellent pieces of removal. Sacrifice themselves and you can use it every single turn. Speaking of removal, Executioner's Capsule is a solid piece of removal tied to an artifact that you can play once a turn as well. In addition to these three wonderful pieces of removal, I'd consider running these three cards: Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos, and Butcher of Malakir. With all the repeatable sacrificing we're doing, may as well take advantage of it to keep our opponents board states nice and clean. With three copies of this effect, we can pretty reliably draw into it most games. Avatar of Woe is a surprisingly strong card in here as well. You'll trigger his mana reduction nearly every game and his ability is priceless. Pernicious Deed is a repeatable board wipe that can scale to what suits your needs. The last piece of removal I'd suggest is an EDH staple, Attrition. It enables you to trigger sacrifice affects at will and gives you repeatable targeted removal. Plus, you can just play whatever you sacrifice from your graveyard again. Value!
Mystic Remora and Elephant Grass let you use their abilities for 1 mana each turn, rather than paying the scaling cumulative upkeep. This makes them extremely powerful cards, as their effects are strong and very under costed.
There's one final piece that ties this sacrifice value engine into place. That piece is Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest. This guy turns your army of value 1/1 creatures into an actual army to evoke fear in your enemies. Note that his ability says "permanents" and not just creatures. His ability triggers when we sacrifice creatures, artifacts, lands, enchantments, or really anything.
Meren of Clan Nel Toth and Ezuri, Claw of Progress have a lot of synergy both with each-other and with Muldrotha. They can use the experience counters that the other creates, so when both are played in the same game that is a lot of value in and of itself. Ezuri works extremely well with our value x/1 creatures and can turn our small value army into an offensive threat. Meren gains experience when one of our creatures die, which we will be making happen a lot. He really shines once you've got a few experience counters in play, as he's almost like a graveyard focused Omniscience. Very strong.
In any deck where you find yourself running a lot of value 1/1 creatures, Skullclamp provides infinite value. In a deck that rewards you for sacrificing your creatures, it provides even more value. This card is very strong. Speaking of artifact staples, you're missing Sol Ring. Secrets of the Dead is almost mandatory in this deck, as it just gets incredible value.
Self-mill is something that Muldrotha gets a lot of value from. Here's some of my favorite self-mill cards: Splinterfright can be a big green trampler for only 3 mana, but he also essentially lets us draw two cards into our graveyard every turn. Nyx Weaver has the same utility without being attached to such a potentially big body. Also lets you return a needed card from your graveyard to hand when your commander isn't in play. Mesmeric Orb is surprisingly strong at filling your graveyard and can screw your opponents out of some good draws. Altar of Dementia is one of the greatest, as it's a sacrifice engine and self mill. Taigam, Sidisi's Hand provides self mill and removal and card filtering. To tie these effects together, we've got Sidisi, Brood Tyrant. In addition to being pseudo draw, all your self-milling will passively create an army of zombies!
Anyways, sorry for the wall of text. Hopefully some of this is helpful!
6 days ago
Since you came and helped me out, I will return the favor!
Cards that could be replaced:
Acidic Slime: I personally feel Reclamation Sage just outshines the slime. For 2 more mana, all you're getting is deathtouch and the option of destroying lands, which our commander is already capable of doing himself (if needed).
Nevinyrral's Disk: I personally don't like all that much. This has a lot to do with the fact it comes in tapped, and the fact that I prefer Pernicious Deed. If you don't feel like you need this, it could very easily be replaced!
Warchief Giant: This card I would argue could be replaced. The other two are more impactful when they connect. However I realize he is a personal fav of yours, but it's a possibility ;)
Elixir of Immortality: I personally don't see much use for this. If you want the option of putting stuff back in your library, I would instead put in Haunted Crossroads from your maybeboard (since I assume you're intending to save creatures with it!). Also, the shuffle means you have technically lost access to them anyway, when they rightfully belong on top of our deck!
All artifact ramp over 4 mana: I personally would replace all of them with 2 mana signets and Fellwar Stone. That means you will rarely come into a situation where you can't cast one!
Sifter Wurm: I believe this card could be replaced as well!
Inclusions to maybeboard:
Viscera Seer: Nice sacc and top deck filter!
Aetherworks Marvel: Since you have a little energy theme going already, this could be another fun inclusion!
Blade of Selves: What's better than myriad creatures? Having myriad on everything!! XD
Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest: I just really like the idea of this card in the deck, with us saccing opponents permanents and our own!
Price of Glory: If you really hate that everyone else playing at instant/flash speed. We don't really have that many ways to interact with players on their turns anyway! :P
Xenagos, God of Revels: Our dragon is now a 2 turn clock!
Hope this helps making the deck even more awesome!
2 weeks ago
Hey Jim. Really like it, looks like a great control deck. Not a big fan of Cataclysm because it destroys your own board state too and I don't think you want to do that.
Stuff I don't like: As Foretold and Search for Azcanta Flip. Neither of these give the consistent card draw that your deck needs and As Foretold stops being useful past six counters. I like adding Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora in place of these two.
I would drop Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip and Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip and definitely add Sunder and Armageddon. Those will help you the most with all your rocks. I would change out Maelstrom Pulse for Pernicious Deed, more useful.
2 weeks ago
This deck has a grand total of 6 spells that could be called "disruption," that's a really low number no matter how aggressive you're playing. Even more glaring is the fact that the only effect in the deck that can actually draw you cards is a Planeswalker's Ult. This deck has a serious case of tunnel vision, and if it fails to go off or gets disrupted along the way it will run out of gas and utterly stall out. In EDH that's a recipe for a bad time.
First and foremost you need ways to reload your hand.
And honestly I'd keep going. Life's Finale, Disciple of Bolas, Greater Good, Soul's Majesty, anything that keeps you from playing off the top of your deck after turn 5 will be enormously helpful in making the deck stronger and more consistent overall.
Next you need to disrupt your opponents more. Just playing your game your way and letting your opponents do the same is going to spell disaster more times than not in multiplayer. It will also help a lot with your problem in connecting with combat damage.
Putrefy, Maelstrom Pulse, Beast Within, and Chaos Warp all give you a lot of flexibility in dealing with the threat du jour. One sweeper isn't going to cut it either, I'd definitely include Pernicious Deed and Damnation.
Good luck! I hope you find some of this useful.
2 weeks ago
I'm a big fan of Akroma's Vengeance, Nevinyrral's Disk & Pernicious Deed because they leave planewsalkers behind. Even Jokulhaups & Obliterate can be cool if you are into that kinda destruction. Sliver Hivelord is a good commander for this strategy too. I have a deck like this on my profile page.
3 weeks ago
(I don't really know how competitive you are trying to make this deck. Right now, it looks like you are running a lot of coll, spicy, fun cards! If your intent is to try out splashy mythics and game warping bombs, you should totally do it! I personally love playing a planeswalker tribal deck with Muldrotha, using Inexorable Tide to ult them quickly. However, for the sake of this comment, I'm going to be looking from the perspective of trying to make a more streamlined, synergistic deck.) Welp I'm a little late, but here are my thoughts on Muldrotha:
The Mending of Dominaria is kinda a non-bo with the rest of your deck. Its recursion isn't that strong, as Muldrotha can get back creatures and play lands, and then it shuffles away your bin. If this is meant to be a safety in in case you run out of cards (I notice there is no Laboratory Maniac, IDK if that's on purpose, so I'll assume you plan to win in a fair way.), then Elixir of Immortality should be enough. (Usually, people won't be trying to exile this.)
I notice you are running both Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation. While individually powerful, they are also kinda non-bos with Muldrotha, as she will still only allow you to play from the bin on your turn. Generally, you'd rather maximize your recursion value each turn than hold up an instant speed creature. (Planning around having Seedborn Muse is too much work for not a huge reward, as you still can't play from the bin.)
There are several big dudes in this list, namely Vorosh, the Hunter, Void Winnower, Archfiend of Despair, and Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar. While they are all pretty good at ending games, none of them have much synergy with graveyard decks (Multani's is a little loose, as "BIG DOOD" doesn't usually kill people very well when you look at the other, more potent threats in this format.). My personal favorite of these is Void Winnower, as it nulls 1/2 of your opponents' spells, and win very quickly. While these are certainly not bad cards, big fatties aren't as good when against three players worth of removal.
Hoo boy, is Kamahl's Druidic Vow a card I never thought I'd see in a deck. Currently, you have around 16 legendary permanents, with an average CMC of roughly 5. That means to get even an okay druidic vow, you have to spend at least 7 mana. 7 mana to get ~1 legendary permanent, ~2 lands, and then to bin ~2 other cards really just isn't that great, especially compared to Genesis Wave.
The last two cards that I think might be a little sketchy are Jace Beleren and Damia, Sage of Stone. Both are fun cards, and very good, but again, don't seem to help your deck too much. I assume your reasoning for Jace was that you would mill yourself with him, but he has to survive for FOUR turn cycles before you can ult him, simply milling for twenty. Jace, Memory Adept does pretty much everything Jace Beleren does, but faster. In that four turn cycle, he could have milled almost half your deck, or drawn just you four cards and milled you for four, etc. Damia is a lot closer to being really good for this deck. She allows you to refill if your bin gets wiped a la Rest in Peace or something similar, and can solidify your winning position. However, I ultimately think that Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur does all that but better. By the stage in the game that they're relevant, mana cost shouldn't really matter too much.
Now to cards worth considering: 1. Perpetual Timepiece. 100000%. This card is repeatable mill and protection for 2 mana. It's pretty much an invaluable asset to Muldrotha decks. 2. Caustic Caterpillar. I see that you took this card out from theoriginal list, and if that was do to yuor meta/playgroup not having a heavy reliance on artifacts/enchantments, then ignore this. But most commander decks do care about them, and the overlap between it and Seal of Primordium is totally okay. 3. Pernicious Deed. This card can, admittedly, be a little awkward sometimes, as you often want to keep your support permanents around, but a repeatable board wipe like this is still very strong. 4. Sakura-Tribe Elder. This card is stupid in Muldrotha. I've had all the basics out of my deck before some of my opponents could even play their commanders. I don't think there's any reason not to run it. 5. Kiora, the Crashing Wave. She ramps, draws cards, is effectively removal, and her ult can win the game. Nuff said. (really though, she's very good, and great for early game when Muldrotha deck struggle to get off the ground with their 6-CMC general) 6. Ramunap Excavator or Crucible of Worlds. Now this is a bit of a controversial one. I'm still not entirely sure that they are worth it, but have found good results with the excavator. Basically, regardless of how many lands you can play for turn, Muldrotha will only let you play ONE from the bin (NOTE: Muldrotha won't let you play an extra land each turn (one from hand, one from bin)). So Ramunap Excavator +Azusa, Lost but Seeking will let you play three from the bin each turn, and pretty soon you have 20-someting lands on the field. Again, just something to consider, they are definitely still undergoing testing.
MEAN STUFF: Discalimer: These cards are often, to some degree, good at making the game less fun for everyone else, and sometimes you too. If you have a specific playgroup, I recommend asking how people feel about these cards first, so as to avoid uncomfortable situations of salt and dejectedness. All right, you've been warned, now, in no particular order, the mean stuff: 1. Glacial Chasm. This card with Muldrotha makes you nigh-invincible, at least to damage. (Loss of life/ "win the game" cards will still get you). Often, this card isn't perceived to badly, as most decks run some way of dealing with lands, but to a more casual player with a heavily creature-based deck, this might be upright cruel. 2. Possessed Portal. This may look like an awful card, but trust me, this is pretty good at locking people out of the game, especially with Jace's Archivist. Just make sure you have a way to survive under it! 3. Bottomless Pit. For you, pitching cards doesn't really matter (early on it might a little, but usually far less than it does for other decks.) This is good at shutting down just about any deck trying to do fancy things. 4. Oppression. This card is very well named. Often filling a similar role to bottomless pit, Oppression eats away at players, effectively halving the number of cards they can play. Except for you, of course. 5. Stasis+Claws of Gix. Claws is arguably worth including without stasis, as a sac outlet that can sac anything, but with Stasis, slaws will just lock every opponent out of the game. this is a reliable two-card combo, that requires only 3 mana, and Muldrotha to be out. However, Stasis is pretty much unplayable without Claws of Gix, so when you do play it, you basically just win, meaning that you often don't really get to "play" with stasis. 6. Smokestack. The namesake of the "Stax" archetype, Smokestack can very quickly turn a fun game of magical cards into a vicious game of french revolution, with you as the monarch. Smokestack does, I feel, get a little too much hate, as it takes several turns to really do anything. But it can quickly turn the game in your favor when you just play back everything you just sacrificed.
And that's it! I love Muldrotha decks, and how many ways there are to build them. There's not really any way to make them wrong, so keep trying new things out! I apologize for this little wall of text, but hopefully some of it is useful.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Ok, I made a few changes and am happy with them so far. Please take a look and share your thoughts and comments :)
Bonds of Mortality now in, replacing Cyclonic Rift, now out. Wait! - Please hear me out! I do realize that Cyclonic Rift is one of the best board wipe cards in the game currently. Cyclonic Rift is a one sided board wipe that hits takes all permanents that I don't control, leaving me poised for the win! I have two other board wipes with Nevinyrral's Disk and Pernicious Deed. I can only cast Cyclonic Rift once, however in this deck all the other cards listed below can be cast multiple times each thanks to my girl Muldrotha, the Gravetide! So, the obvious upside is that Bonds of Mortality allows me to deal with hexproof and indestructible creatures on a much more regular basis. I already have heavy creature hate, non-artifact and non-black creature spot removal with Shriekmaw. I make my opponents sacrifice a creature at the beginning of their upkeep with Sheoldred, Whispering One. My opponents sacrifice a creature whenever any of my creatures die thanks to Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact. Everyone sacrifices a creature whenever I cast Fleshbag Marauder. I also obnoxiously make all of my opponents sacrifice all except for two of their creatures in each of their own end steps thanks to Archfiend of Depravity. I have have artifact and enchantment spot removal with Seal of Primordium.
Death's Presence now in, replacing Exsanguinate, now out. First off I still have Gray Merchant of Asphodel in the deck so redundancy for the win. A high CMC card traded for a high CMC card and I think that the ongoing benefits I will get from Death's Presence is greater than the one shot use of Exsanguinate. I have compensated for the loss of life gain by adding in Zuran Orb as below. The obvious advantage that adding this card provides is granting my creatures the potential to become insanely powerful. As my creatures start to die either because of what my opponents are doing or because that is a part of my game plan, the result is the same: Death's Presence begins giving out +1/+1 counters! To top it all off i should be able to basically move them around from creature to creature as the game progresses.
Rite of Passage now in, replacing Copy Enchantment, now out. I am very fond of Rite of Passage as I think that my opponents will need to carefully consider their attacks against me as if any of my creatures survive the fight, they will get bigger and bigger each time.