Raven's Crime

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Modern Masters (MMA) Common
Eventide (EVE) Common

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Raven's Crime

Sorcery

Target player discards a card.

Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)

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Raven's Crime Discussion

Nethereon on Rats and their Patron: 1st Budget Build

1 week ago

Concise list of considerations:

-/+ Dump Mind Twist and add Torment of Hailfire HOLY CRAP, do I love this card. It gets around so many things plus it hits every opponent.

Let's talk about your mana base for a second...

Thirty two lands? Even for a very cavalier spell slinger deck, that is a very low amount to play. I play a Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest deck on 36 and struggle some times to reach a critical mass of mana/spells. Don't fall into the trap of "I'll cut a land for this cheap spell; it'll be fine." Again, math and probability will not be on your side in the late game, not unless you're willing to invest in Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx or Cabal Coffers. An alternative might be to run Crypt of Agadeem but it's really no substitute for those lands.

Lastly, jam a Bojuka Bog or a Scavenger Grounds or both in there for graveyard hate, along with your choice of Strip Mine, Ghost Quarter, and/or Field of Ruin because if you can't have your Crypt or Coffers, why should they?

Hope this helps, good luck!

xyr0s on 8-Rack (Budget)

2 weeks ago

You could exchange a swamp for a Dakmor Salvage, so if a game runs long, you can always dredge it back, and play Raven's Crime.

Also, Asylum Visitor can be pretty good for a budget deck - you can madness-play it with Smallpox or Collective Brutality.

Mandalorian on Delusional Agony

2 weeks ago

No problem AwesomeDoofus! Glad my suggestions could be of some help!

It's true that more efficient CMCs will often lead to higher prices i.e. Liliana's Caress vs Raider's Wake. Though, if your LGS (local game store) is selling Liliana's Caress for 8$, that is truly egregious. You can find them here for 2-3$ a card here TCG Player and I suggest buying other cards on that website since they have very competitive pricing.

My opinion of Consume the Meek is not very high considering that you can wipe the whole board for the same mana cost in cards like Crux of Fate. Pestilence Demon is also pretty meh to me because it is terribly expensive unless you are running some kind of reanimation deck with cards like Entomb and Animate Dead OR ramp spells like Dark Ritual, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, and Cabal Ritual. If Tempt with Immortality is already a very medium card in your deck, then I would shy away from adding other medium cards to the deck like Crypt Incursion just to make the other medium cards better. It's simply better to not have the initial medium card in the deck to begin with. The other cards I'm not so big on as well, especially when you consider that you wanted to add more discard to the deck. These other cards would make that hard to do.

Unfortunately the best discard effects are pretty expensive because they see play across multiple formats. These include-

Liliana of the Veil

Thoughtseize

Inquisition of Kozilek

Collective Brutality

-to name a few

The other problem with discard spells is that they lose their potency late into the game because people will simply be drawing and playing their only card and have nothing to discard. This is why cards like The Rack and Black Vise are so good. These cards create tension within your opponent and gives value to your discard spells late into the game. Your opponent will not want to play anything so that they can keep cards in hand to not take damage from the artifacts, this means your discard spells will actually be worthwhile late into the game creating a lose-lose situation for the opponent because they will take damage from the artifacts if they play what they draw, but if they don't play what they draw you may just make them discard it anyway and how can they win if they are not playing the cards they draw? A deck that looks to enable this strategy on a budget for 1vs1 (so no Liliana of the Veil or Thoughtseize) might look like this-

4x Raven's Crime

4x Inquisition of Kozilek

4x Smallpox

2x Pox

4x Hymn to Tourach

4x Dark Ritual (this card enables you to do very powerful things early in the game such as play Hymn, and Inquisition on turn 1)

2x Dismember

4x Innocent Blood

1x Waste Not

4x The Rack

4x Black Vise

19x Swamp

4x Mishra's Factory

Two things to notice here, 1 there are no creatures. This means cards like Innocent Blood, Pox, and Smallpox do not affect us in that way, only our opponent. Our main win condition here are the Rack and Vise, so no need for creatures. The Mishra's Factorys are just a plan B. This also makes a lot of our opponents cards, like removal spells, very bad against us limiting the amount of impactful cards they can play against us. The second, is you'll notice there are a lot of 4ofs. Rather than having 1 of this and 2 of that, having multiple copies of 1 card increases the percentage that we actually draw it or have it in our opening hand. What this means is that our deck is much more efficient because the chances and percentages of us drawing the cards we need are as high as they can be. This is an important aspect of deck building to keep in mind.

Now, that last deck was a true discard deck. If you want to play creatures though and want to be swinging for damage in Mono then I would suggest a Devotion deck which exploits the power of cards like Gray Merchant of Asphodel by trying to get as many symbols on the battlefield as possible. A Devotion deck with budget in mind (so no Phyrexian Obliterator) for 1vs1 might look like this-

4x Guul Draz Assassin

4x Doom Blade

4x Brain Maggot

4x Gifted Aetherborn

3x Gatekeeper of Malakir

4x Phyrexian Arena

4x Geralf's Messenger

4x Desecration Demon

4x Gray Merchant of Asphodel

2x Abhorrent Overlord

23x Swamp

Now these two decks I put here are just simple examples of different directions to go, obviously if you do a mix of both of them, then you will inevitably dilute the strategy of one another but that's certainly okay if that's what you want to do. It's kind of where I would put the deck as it stands now. You have some discard, you have some creatures, some of it synergizes with the rest, but as a whole it is not as focused as the decks above. All of this is to answer your last paragraph when you ask, "What is worth keeping?" Well, that's a tough question because we first have to ask, "What is it we are trying to do?" Once you answer this, you can then eliminate the cards that don't help in those areas and add more copies of the ones that do. Now, I don't want to push you one way or the other, I simply want to provide the options so that you know what possibilities are out there.

I hope this was not terribly overwhelming, and you are right, this is what I enjoy doing on this site so its no trouble to me! So if you have more questions please feel free to ask!

Mandalorian on Delusional Agony

3 weeks ago

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Here are some more fun ways to make your opponents discard cards and lose life. You mentioned that you just play with your friends, if you play multiplayer games then the cards that say each opponent are especially powerful-

Pox

Smallpox

Raven's Crime

Cunning Lethemancer

Liliana's Specter

Duress

Hymn to Tourach or Unnerve for multiplayer

Other good Mono stuff

Mutilate

Underworld Connections can help refill your hand while emptying your opponents

Gray Merchant of Asphodel

Abhorrent Overlord

Nightmare

Hope this helps trim and focus the deck a bit more and gives you some more ideas to brew with!

Bulldawg1310 on Friends call it The Nasty Deck (Discard Deck)

3 weeks ago

Youre running shrieking affliction, you might as well have a playset of The Rack its a wincon for this deck. Lose the creatures and just make 8rack. Add Inquisition of Kozilek Thoughtseize and Raven's Crime cut dark ritual as its not legal. Cut your other land and add Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and mutavaults and ya got yourself the making of a seriously competitive, yet seriously underlooked deck!

wonderboyrox on Hey, I'm fine with you not having a hand

4 weeks ago

I am guessing that you are intentionally trying to make this a budget deck? Otherwise, I would suggest running a playset of Thoughtseize instead of Duress, as well as increase your number of Raven's Crimes and Wrench Minds in the deck to full playsets.

I'd also drop Doom Blade and Go for the Throat for a playset of Fatal Push, assuming you aren't on a budget, again.

I would also suggest sideboarding in either Extirpate or Surgical Extraction as well, to get rid of the staples of your opponents deck faster in games 2 and 3.

And once you could afford to do so, throwing in some fetchlands for deck thinning.

Ultimately as is, it's okay. It's just not fast enough to keep up with most Modern decks. And in it's current form doesn't run quite enough discard to completely and reliably empty your opponents hand every single game.

fasmith718 on 8-Rack Em Up Bridges

4 weeks ago

Finally broke down and got Lilianas, so here will be a major change. Also some experience tells me that the full complement of Thoughtseize and Raven's Crime would be best. Finally, I am going to reduce my main-decked bridges with the additional 4(!) edicts in the form of Liliana, and will make room for that and sideboard ratchet bombs by ditching the Pack Rats. It's been fun, rats :(

  1. -4 Necrogen Mists
  2. +4 Liliana of the Veil
  3. -4 Pack Rat
  4. +1 Thoughtseize
  5. +1 Raven's Crime
  6. +2 Ratchet Bomb
  7. -1 Never
  8. +1 Bontu's Last Reckoning
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