Target player discards a card.
Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)
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Raven's Crime Discussion
1 week ago
Why not go all in on Discard? With Cards like these: Blackbloom Rogue Flip | Necromentia | Mind Drain | Wrench Mind | Raven's Crime | The Rack there are more Cards i could suggest but i was curious if you consider it a valid approach.
1 week ago
There's one problem with Swamp Mosquito, it's laughably bad, not even kidding. Sure, it has evasion, but what else. Even if I consider the perfect scenario of Runechanter's Pike giving +10/+0, that would just mean one poison counter. There's a reason no one plays it.
I was almost forgetting to talk about the Specter. It's definitely a good card but a win more card rather than an efficient threat. Being a 1/1 just means it dies to pretty much anything. The ability to sacrifice itself to force the opponent to discard is nice. However, that also means I would be down a threat. Definitely a good consideration for a budget deck but has no place here.
Yawgmoth just doesn't work, plain and simple. Not enough creatures to sacrifice. The ability to proliferate is nice, but if I don't have a lot of cards in hand he's just gonna do nothing, which is why I actually decided do to cut a copy of Raven's Crime for a Liliana of the Veil, since in the early game, as well as the mid/late game, she acts as Disruption and Removal, while possibly truly being a wincon with her ultimate.
Profane Command looks silly because it is, at least in this deck. It's too much of a mana sink for a deck that doesn't want one. It would be nice to reanimate some of my fallen threats. However, paying 5 mana to reanimate a Crusader or 4 for a Stinger is a terrible rate, to such a point I would rather run Unearth. Same for the removal. Why pay 5 mana to give -3/-3(-2/-2 if I pay 4) when Yahenni's Expertise gives -3/-3 for the whole board while allowing to cast practically any card in my deck for free? Also, it's very hard to have multiple creatures on the battlefield for the Fear mode to be worthy manawise. In that case, I would rather run Dirge of Dread.
As I mentioned Unearth, I should say something about it. Maybe it could be worth in other builds, but I'm not a huge fan of it. It's not something that develops my game plan. Having the ability to recur a threat is nice. Still, it doesn't seem particularly interesting enough to take out a removal/discard spell for it. If I had to choose a Reanimation spell, it would definitely be Agadeem's Awakening Flip as it wouldn't take a slot due to it being able to be played as a land and has the potential to reanimate more than one threat.
Bontu's Last Reckoning is already on the sideboard. Having it as a mainboard is not a good idea. I don't want to rely on a boardwipe that effectively makes me lose a turn.
With all that being said, there's actually two suggestions that I like and have already been considering, Skithrix and Karn. The Dragon would be a sideboard card against more grindy matchup less because of the regeneration and more due to being able to have haste. A 4/4 hasty flying infect creature is terrifying. Karn would be more of a tech against artifact decks since I can't run Damping Matrix because of my own equipment and Mazemind Tome. The wish ability would be just the cherry on top. The problem with both of these is that I don't know what I would cut for them.
1 month ago
Hi Balaam_ and thanks for the feedback.
And the next is.. Play Raven's Crime with retrace->discard Dakmor-> next turn dredge play Raven's Crime retrace again..
Do you suggest something else?
1 month ago
I love to see Gnat Miser put to good use in a list like this one, and even though I'm well aware of its flavor connection to the theme of the deck, I unfortunately think it isn't likely to be very impactful for two reasons. First, it is already unlikely that your opponent will have many cards in their hand to begin with on account of the deck's discard suite. Even if you can play it in the dream scenario, which is turn one on the play, if your opponent has a land and a one drop, its effect becomes all but irrelevant for much of the game; this scenario is not made any more unlikely by the fact that pauper is a relatively fast, low-to-the-ground format, for the most part. Supposing you somehow happen to play multiples in the same game, I still think you're better off with a hard turn one discard effect such as that of Raven's Crime. Secondly, I think you need to be mindful of mana curve considerations, as currently you're running a whopping 26 one drops.
1 month ago
I'm a person who likes to build "engine" decks, so I'm a big fan of using custom categories as seen here to parcel out my cards into ways they contribute to my strategy.
For one thing that helps me weigh cards that are dissimilar; e.g. Raven's Crime is certainly lower power than Leyline of the Void, but since my engine is opponent discard, it becomes more valuable for the whole deck. So, with that deck (and all decks that run on an engine), I always try to make cuts first from the Utility slot first. After that, I just cut the weakest cards from each category.
I think almost all EDH decks are either engine or combo-based even at lower power levels, just because having access to one card 100% of the time encourages that kind of deckbuilding, so the above approach works for most decks. For decks that are just straight aggro or value, I would just make cuts based on power and, after power, how much I like them. :P
1 month ago
I love what you are doing here. here is what i am thinking after looking at it for 5 min. +4 Ichorclaw Myr -4 Phyrexian Vatmother -2 Raven's Crime -4 Mazemind Tome +2 Shadowspear +2 Infiltration Lens +2 Demonic Embrace. anyway dont take me too seriously. I just started brewing a mono green infect but im not feeling it. I have a red deck and a black vampire deck. really happy with those. ill post a link. for this deck i was thinking you have too much discard in the mainboard. that is why id say take out raven's crime. if you want the option of discarding lands late game, even though infect has no late game lol, then i like Demonic Embrace because it can finish an opponent. Raven's crime is useless to recast if they have no cards. I see dragon's claw in the sideboard. I generally advise against that unless you are also red. personally, I have duress in the sideboard for my black deck. I use Cry of Contrition in the main deck. mostly for budget purposes but I find that it is an excellent card to play on turn three or four. if it plays right, they could discard two powerful cards. against burn, for example, it does not matter which cards they discard.
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