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Raven's Crime Discussion
21 hours ago
Shrieking Affliction is worthwhile. There is a deck called 8 rack that uses both of those cards to great effect.
Cry of Contrition could be Raven's Crime which turns dead lands late game into more discard. You could swap Augur of Skulls for Asylum Visitor. If both people are hellbent, it is free cards. You also have 7 copies of Darkness between MB and SB.
23 hours ago
You need more discard. You are a mixture of Pillow Fort, part Discard, part creature hate. You don't have enough deck space to make all that work. On a budget, Mono Black is best. Focus on your 1cmc discard: Raven's Crime Blackmail Duress Funeral Charm. Blackmail can hit lands when they have 3 cards in hand and combos nice with Extirpate for Tron lands or even get lucky with a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle. Funeral Charm can kill a lot of Affinity's creatures or even make them discard during their draw phase. A very versatile card even when not on a budget. Bontu's Last Reckoning is a great wrath that is cheap and doesn't set you back much since you can cast most of your spells for B.
You should also be running Wrench Mind because it gets rid of 2 cards. And just say no to Bloodchief Ascension it is only good at turn 1. Get a playset of Fatal Push since that card is useful in every format. Dismember is also a great card since it can kill things Fatal Push can't. You need to also understand that this deck is very subpar until you get 4xLiliana of the Veil. Collective Brutality is an amazing card vs burn or Storm.
4 days ago
1 week ago
Raven's Crime, Nyxathid, Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Jace's Archivist, Chasm Skulker, Dream Salvage and Empty the Pits are good options for this kind of deck. Also, you should really run some kind of removal, Void Snare is not enough.
1 week ago
Let's start with the most grixis card ever: Cruel Ultimatum, not running at least one copy is a sin. Some decks even go all in on the ultimatum, filling themselves with removal/counterspells, counting on Cruel Ultimatum to close the game.
Some builds of grixis control have a bit of discard with cards like Inquisition of Kozilek, Rakdos's Return, Raven's Crime, Duress, Consult the Necrosages and Blightning, but controlling your opponent's hand and countering their spells are usually mutually exclusive.
Now, the threats: Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Gurmag Angler and Delver of Secrets Flip are the most common in this kind of deck but Enigma Drake, Sedraxis Specter, Shriekmaw and Goblin Dark-Dwellers are good options.
1 week ago
You're right, I definitely do not know much about 8-rack. I still don't understand the point of 24 lands, yeah you can use them as discard fodder, but you could also just add in more spells and do the same with any of those you want. I understand the Raven's Crime combo, and why Grafdigger isn't great, I didn't realize that before. Black Cat, Liliana, Heretical Healer and any spell that forces you to also sac a creature might work, but I think you're right. I'm interested in building and playing my own 8-rack now to test possibilities.
1 week ago
DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert on 8-Rack, but Tom Ross is, so if you want to learn more about the archetype, you should look up some of his articles.
Firstly, I don't have enough money to build an optimized 8-Rack list right now, but the list I'm building into is linked in the description. As you can see, it costs upwards of $700. Some of the cards I'm currently running are the results of budget cuts.
Firstly: the land count. 8-Rack almost always runs 23 to 24 lands. Excess lands (anything after the third or fourth) are discarded to retrace Raven's Crime. It's a good way to keep the opponent empty handed.
Ratchet Bomb, is in the board for token and other go-wide strategies, both of which are major weaknesses for 8-Rack. Similarly, board wipes are relegated to the sideboard. I'm running Languish, because I already own one, but it'll be replaced by Damnationor Bontu's Last Reckoning when I can get my hands on one.
Necrogen Mists is the best budget substitute for Liliana of the Veil. 8-Rack can't flip Liliana, Heretical Healer because, with the exception of some sideboarded copies of Nyxathid or Death's Shadow (for the burn matchups), 8-Rack is creatureless.
All but one of the other cards you suggested are creatures so, while I appreciate the suggestions, I must respectfully decline them. The other card, Ensnaring Bridge, is actually a hot topic among 8-Rack players, some people like it, other's don't. Personally, I'm not a fan; it's expensive ($35 or more) and 8-Rack already has a problem with artifact removal killing The Rack and the last thing the deck needs is to give artifact hate more targets.
Thank you so much for your suggestions! And I'm so, so sorry for this massive response.
1 week ago
After some more play: I always side out the Augur of Skulls so lets just start that way. Also, I've run into matchups where Waste Not seemed relevant. Other card balances have been altered as I've aquired some better stuff.