Bad River

Bad River

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Bad River enters the battlefield tapped.

{T}, Sacrifice Bad River: Search your library for an Island or Swamp card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.

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Format Legality
MTGO Legal
Noble Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Unformat Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Casual Legal
Vintage Legal
Highlander Legal

Bad River occurrence in decks from the last year

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Bad River Discussion

SideBae on Oloro

1 week ago

If you wanna be a grade-A dork-a-saurous, I suggest running Zur's Weirding. With your automatic life-gain, you can filter OPs draws so they never draw a relevant card again.

I also suggest reconsidering your artifact mana. Arcane Signet is a wonderful card -- good you're running it! Similar 2-mana mana-rocks exist that I think are way better than Manalith or even Chromatic Lantern. (I've never liked lantern -- if you're running 2-mana-rocks, you don't need its extra fixing, and being 3 instead of 2 mana is an awkward taco...) I suggest running things like Talisman of Progress, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet... In general, landing a 2-mana rock and having 4 mana on turn 3 is better than landing a 3 mana rock and having 5 mana on turn 4. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but it is (almost) infallibly borne out in my play experience.

I think people tend to overlook cantrips in EDH -- I suspect that costing just {u} makes people think they aren't powerful enough. This is unjustified. I recommend running Ponder and Preordain more highly than any other card in this comment -- they're simply too good to leave out. Brainstorm is similar, but unless you're running free shuffle effects (i.e. fetches), it's not going to be better than mediocre. If you don't want to fork over the cash for Flooded Strand and friends, consider running Flood Plain, Bad River, Grasslands and/or Rocky Tar Pit. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are good, too.

The majority of EDH games (and magic games in general) are decided by card advantage. Phyrexian Arena is a good start, but there're other cards to consider. Right off, here're a few: Fact or Fiction, Treasure Cruise, Painful Truths (a personal favorite of mine), Sphinx's Revelation, Mystic Remora etc. You can also attack from the other side, preventing other players from drawing cards, though this is more difficult since there're fewer cards to choose from. The best that comes to mind is Narset, Parter of Veils, followed by Alms Collector. I think Narset is way better tho.

Depending on your meta, you may be able to lay out the monarch mechanic for recurring card-advantage without needing a specific permanent. The best card I can think of that introduces this mechanic is Palace Jailer, which doubles as an Oblivion Ring on a stick!

Right. That's all I got. Good luck!

SideBae on Derevi, Holder of Lanterns

1 week ago

Yo... I've always loved lantern-control in EDH! I have a few suggestions:

  1. So the easiest ways to increase consistency are either to run tutors or to run redundant pieces. I see you're running a lot of tutors already, which is good; one redundant piece I think you missed is Field of Dreams. It's about $60, which can be a lot if you don't want to invest in EDH. Personally, I think proxies are unfairly treated in EDH, since it's not a paid event (typically), so I recommend them. If your playgroup doesn't allow them, tho... well, $60 is doable.

  2. Another way to increase consistency is to run cantrips. I highly suggest running Ponder and Preordain. If you run fetches, Brainstorm is also a powerhouse. Of course, the zendikar/onslaught fetches are a fortune; consider Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Fabled Passage, Grasslands, Bad River, Flood Plain and/or Mountain Valley. These are perfectly acceptable alternatives.

  3. When games go long, you'll need a way to recoup cards. Consider big-draws like Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time (which are good when you're filling your yard with Ghoulcaller's Bell), Fact or Fiction or even Concentrate.

  4. I like that you're running Emry, Lurker of the Loch. Have you considered Academy Ruins as another form of recursion? You can also try using Aether Spellbomb as a cheap recurrable.

  5. Speaking of Emry, Lurker of the Loch, have you thought about Mindslaver? I used to play a lantern-control EDH list, and I used Mindslaver with Emry to strong effect. Generally, you can lock out one of your opponents and make him do whatever you want, including win for you. That's generally fun.

  6. You're in green -- USE DORKS! This is easily the most overlooked part of green decks, which is sad because dorks are the best reason to be in green. Turn one ramp is better than artifacts can do most of the time, plus it gives you pokers if you need to use them with Derevi later. I highly recommend running at least four of the following: Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Noble Hierarch, Arbor Elf, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic... Even Boreal Druid and Joraga Treespeaker are good. You can also consider non-creature options, like Wild Growth and/or Utopia Sprawl.

  7. Winter Orb. You can tap opponents' lands with Derevi. Enough said.

  8. Finally, two walkers to consider are Oko, Thief of Crowns and Teferi, Time Raveler. Oko is great removal for opponents' problem cards (he nerfs all fatties into Trained Armodons) while occasionally producing a clock for you. Teferi nails opposing Counterspells, while producing a small amount of card advantage with his minus and allowing you to recast something if you bounce your own permanent.

  9. Finally, while they're expensive, I think the latest cycle of free spells from Ikoria Commander are bombs. Fierce Guardianship and Flawless Maneuver are great cards which you should run if you can.

Right. That's all I got. Hope this helps!

SideBae on Tanks

1 week ago

So Enlightened Tutor comes to mind. I think it's probably better than Idyllic Tutor, though it's significantly more expensive. If you're working on a budget, Idyllic Tutor is perfectly okay.

Toxic Deluge is an expensive card that I expect to go down in price soon (it's been reprinted in Double Masters, and in my experience masters sets tank their rares, if only for a short while). It'd be especially good since you have a lot of high-toughness cards.

I think Mythos of Nethroi is probably better than Putrefy.

I also think that even in a deck based on walls, you can benefit a LOT from one-mana mana-dorks. Arbor Elf, Elves of Deep Shadow, Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves, Deathrite Shaman, Fyndhorn Elves etc. will accelerate you in a way that only green can do. Even with boardwipes, they're worth it. Note that they also let you land your general turn two, if you get the right mana.

Additionally, since you're not a landfall, I feel like you're running too many lands. Replacing some with dorks will let you come out of the gate a lot faster. (I play EDH with a lot of more powerful decks, and your experience may differ from mine. However, I find that being able to land a meaningful turn-one play like Birds of Paradise is good in all power-levels.)

Speaking of lands, your mana base can be improved for relatively cheap. Indatha Triome is about $4 these days, and could easily replace your Jungle Hollow... Fetches are busted, especially when paired with duals like Overgrown Tomb or Savannah. However, if you don't plan on selling a kidney, there're other ways to improve. Slow-fetches (Rocky Tar Pit, Bad River, Flood Plain, Mountain Valley and Grasslands) are super affordable. Note that they can also fetch your non-basic typed lands (like Canopy Vista or Indatha Triome). Other lands of various prices to consider are Exotic Orchard, City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, Llanowar Wastes, Brushland, Caves of Koilos and friends.

Card advantage decides most EDH (and Magic in general) games. Some cards to consider: Sylvan Library, Painful Truths, Harmonize, Night's Whisper, Phyrexian Arena, Dark Tutelage etc. are all good ways. I was going to suggest Runic Armasaur, but you already spotted that one.

Retribution of the Meek is a GREAT wipe for decks like this.

I also suggest cutting some cards. I don't think Path to Exile is very good in EDH, where one-for-ones need to be REALLY good (like Swords to Plowshares or non-type specific like Mythos of Nethroi), and Path to Exile ramps your opponents. They're very likely to just use the extra mana to deploy a more dangerous threat. Glyph of Doom is interesting, and might be good, but I don't think it would be (granted that's not based on direct experience). I think you could probably just use a more powerful card in that slot. I also think you can cut some of the equipments for more influential cards. For example, if you cut Spidersilk Net and friends you can run things like Collector Ouphe and Stony Silence. If you're running mana dorks, you'll have ramp while your artifact-based friends get nailed.

Right. That's all I got. Hope this helped!

SideBae on Yennett Simplicity

2 weeks ago

Hey man! I have some suggestions. Feel free to ignore any/all of them as you see fit:

  1. I think you should include Sensei's Divining Top. It's really good at topdeck manipulation, and activating it in response to Yennett's trigger can help you find the spell you want to cast for free.

  2. Brainstorm is underplayed in EDH, so I'm glad to see it in your list. I think you need more shuffle effects though before it becomes really busted. Generally people do this by including fetches and duals like Flooded Strand, but those can be very pricey for EDH. I think slow fetches like Bad River, Flood Plain and Rocky Tar Pit are also good, and merit consideration. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are also good options as cheaper versions of Prismatic Vista.

  3. Ponder and Preordain are the other cantrips usually included in blue lists, and I highly recommend them for your list, too. Filtering your draws can let you run fewer lands, which in turn increases your hits with Yennett.

  4. As mentioned in (3), I think 42 lands is too many. In general, I try to play 33-34 at most outside mono-green land-drop decks. Running artifact ramp instead of the extra few lands makes it so that you can ramp up by more than one mana each turn. That said, I strongly dislike 3-drop rocks in EDH; it's not that they're bad, it's that 2-mana drops are available and way better. The best ones are Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, Mana Vault etc. but like the fetches, these tend to be a lot of money. If you aren't allowed to use proxies (and aren't loaded af), try things like Arcane Signet, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, Fellwar Stone, Everflowing Chalice, Mind Stone, Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, Orzhov Signet... You can't cast these off Yennett triggers, but you can't cast the lands they'd be replacing either. Additionally, you don't really want to be hitting rocks off the triggers, but more things like In Garruk's Wake or Behold the Beyond.

  5. Countering combo decks generally depends on your meta, but cheap counters are a good way to push the deck harder. Mental Misstep is surprisingly good (in my experience), since it can counter Sol Ring, Silence, Demonic Consultation etc. Force of Will and Force of Negation are also expensive, but the best in the business. Spell Snare is good (it counters Flash and a bunch of other combo nonsense; Spell Pierce, Swan Song, Drown in the Loch and Narset's Reversal are also good.

  6. If you're looking for more permanent-based disruption, you're in the right colors. Narset, Parter of Veils is good, as is Counterbalance (especially with Sensei's Divining Top). Lavinia, Azorius Renegade is good (she nails opposing Force of Wills and ramp). So are things like Containment Priest, Aven Mindcensor, Ashiok, Dream Render... Hatebears are great.

  7. Mystic Remora is a good way to draw cards and disincentivize storm players.

Right. That's all I got. I hope it helps!

SideBae on That's a big nope

1 month ago

One card that I always thought was pretty good with Aminatou, the Fateshifter is Counterbalance. Since you can shift the top card of your deck without revealing it, you can stack a 1 or 2 on top and nail an opponent for no cards. It also makes Sensei's Divining Top really good.

Gilded Drake is absurd with your general. Because of her wording, you can flicker permanents you own even if you don't control them -- so the minus becomes "steal target creature." It is $170. So either be rich or play with proxies... I love proxies, and I think they're unduly rejected in EDH.

Preordain is good in addition to your Ponder and Brainstorm. Brainstorm is best with more free shuffle effects than you currently have... They usually come from fetches like Polluted Delta, but those lands can be expensive. Slow fetches like Bad River also work, and things like Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are also good.

You have two Arcane Signets. Unless the rules have changed, that's not allowed...

Control decks -- which I think this is -- tend to like wipes. I think Toxic Deluge is really good, since it gets around cards like Gaddock Teeg. Damnation and/or Wrath of God are also good.

You could also do with more two-mana mana-rocks; three-mana rocks, like Commander's Sphere, are significantly slower and come down turn three, competing with your commander. I suggest cards like Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Progress, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Everflowing Chalice, Azorius Signet, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet, Thought Vessel...

I also think you have better options than Defense Grid, since Defense Grid is symmetric and hoses your counters, too. Teferi, Time Raveler comes to mind.

Narset, Parter of Veils is also really good, especially if you can pair her with something like Windfall.

Finally, Omen of the Sea seems like it could be good to flicker, though playtesting would be needed.

Right. I hope this helps!

Optimator on Muldrotha deck

3 months ago

Looking good! It's hard to screw up Muldrotha. Just go to value town. Your selection of creatures seems great!

That said, I would include a little more ramp. You are at eightish, which is where one usually wants to be in an EDH deck, but Muldrotha is usually kill-on-sight and 6 CMC. Try to use more things that permanently get a land into the field, which you already have a good amount of, like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach. Also, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, and Wayfarer's Bauble can be brought back for value--making them particularly good. Elvish Reclaimer is an interesting choice too.

The one-CMC dorks (Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf, Wild Growth (and to a lesser extent Birds of Paradise and Utopia Sprawl) are all extremely good generally for their speed and chumping ability. If they get whacked or boardwiped they can slowly be brought back later. Getting Muldrotha out as soon as possible is very worth it. I don't run many mana dorks in my Muldrotha deck. I would run as few artifact rampers as possible, since you don't have to (as you run Green). Lands are always safest. Commander's Sphere being brought back for the card draw is nice--probably better than the Darksteel Ingot.

Good job on including Evolving Wilds. I would also add Terramorphic Expanse and maybe Myriad Landscape, Warped Landscape, and Blighted Woodland. The Mirage fetches (Bad River, et al) are decent but better with fetchable lands that have two colors--like Sunken Hollow and Watery Grave. Be sure to include Opulent Palace. Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, and Command Tower are worth including too. On a budget, Vivid Marsh, Vivid Creek, and Vivid Grove are all good too. That all said, I still like running a healthy amount of Basic Lands for repeated fetching.

Protecting Muldrotha is important. Kaya's Ghostform is an excellent choice. I would also include a combination of Aspect of Mongoose, Canopy Cover, Alpha Authority, Diplomatic Immunity, Alexi's Cloak, Cloudform, Mystic Veil, Robe of Mirrors, Mirror Shield, Whispersilk Cloak, Neurok Stealthsuit, Mask of Avacyn, and Swiftfoot Boots. Usually the Enchantment Auras are considered weak because they can be two-for-one'd, but Muldrotha can bring them right back!

Personally, I believe every single EDH deck should run at least two boardwipes, and more if you can find the room. Sometimes it's just an emergency. On a budget in Sultai colors I like Crux of Fate and Gaze of Granite the most, followed by In Garruk's Wake (should have the mana!), Deadly Tempest, Decree of Pain, Extinction Event, Hex, Nevinyrral's Disk, Oblivion Stone, Killing Wave, Hythonia the Cruel, Life's Finale, Massacre Girl, Necromantic Selection, and Black Sun's Zenith. Pernicious Deed is great too.

Not everyone likes doing this, but I love running Enchantment-based removal in Muldrotha since it can be reused. Many have strong effects but still aren't worth it since they can be removed but Muldrotha gets rid of that drawback! Things like Corrupted Conscience, Inevitable End, Kasmina's Transmutation, Ichthyomorphosis, Lignify, and Lay Claim. I've actually had good luck with things an innocuous as Universal Solvent.

Prospekt on Sultai Self-Mill

3 months ago

Okay so here's a bunch of suggestions that fit Gyruda's requirement and then some things to then take out.

Put in: Arcane Signet, Wake the Dead, Gravespawn Sovereign, Embalmer's Tools, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Disciple of Bolas, Forgotten Creation, Notion Thief, Oversold Cemetery, Skull Prophet, Clever Impersonator, Garruk Relentless  Flip, The Cauldron of Eternity, Sire of Stagnation, and Razaketh, the Foulblooded. The cards in your maybeboard seem good too.

Take out: Cranial Archive, Enhanced Surveillance, Devious Cover-Up, Gather the Pack, Migratory Greathorn, Polukranos, Unchained, Shepherd of Rot, Vengeful Dead, Void Beckoner, and all petitioners.

In terms of land, there are a lot of cheap options to include that will make a three color deck a lot better: Choked Estuary, Sunken Hollow, Botanical Sanctum, Blooming Marsh, Fetid Pools, Hissing Quagmire, Drowned Catacomb, Hinterland Harbor, Woodland Cemetery, Bad River, Ash Barrens, Dakmor Salvage, Exotic Orchard, Witch's Cottage, and stuff like that. Replace the guildgates and bounce lands and a few basics with those if you can.

And lastly if you want to run the petitioners then you should put more of them in, otherwise having just 8 won't do a whole lot for you most of the time other than for fun.

SideBae on Yuirko, the Sadist

4 months ago

So I have a few suggestions. Feel free to ignore any/all of them.

  1. I notice Mindlock Orb is in your MB. I think this effect can be powerful in the right meta, but if you do want to run it I think you should run Ashiok, Dream Render first. Being 3 mana rather than 4 is a big deal.

  2. I like that you're running Ponder -- consider running Preordain, too. I realize it's harder to stack your deck for Yuriko triggers with Preordain, but thinking of it as just a 1 mana cantrip should show how good it is. After all, there's a reason it's super-duper banned in modern. Additionally, you can make your Brainstorm a lot better by adding some cheap shuffle effects; currently, if you don't have Yuriko triggers happening, you're likely to get Brainstorm-locked (stuck with two blanks on top of your deck). Traditionally these shuffle effects come from fetchlands like Polluted Delta or Verdant Catacombs, but since these lands are expensive AF, it's worth noting there're other lands that do similar things. Bad River, Flood Plain and Rocky Tar Pit ("Slow Fetches") are good for budget builds, as is Terramorphic Expanse.

  3. If you want to speed up your deck, running as few ETB-tapped lands as possible is pretty much essential. I would cut Submerged Boneyard and Dimir Guildgate for Watery Grave, Drowned Catacomb, Sunken Ruins, Underground River, or even just basics.

  4. Yuriko presents an interesting dilemma as a general: you want your average CMC very high, in order to keep his triggers powerful, but you also want to be able to cast your spells. In general, people use alternate-casting-cost spells to deal with this. Consider running things like Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, Temporal Trespass (which makes me giggle when I see it played), The Magic Mirror, Commandeer, etc.

  5. There're other creatures you should consider running, especially if you consider them as recastable after being ninjutsu-ed back to your hand: Baleful Strix, Thalakos Seer, Snapcaster Mage (if you're rich), Cavern Harpy (a personal favorite), Murderous Rider (which strictly better than Murder), Man-o'-War, Rishadan Cutpurse, Spellseeker... Burglar Rat might be funny, though probably not too powerful.

  6. There're some ways to stack your deck not included in your deck. Mystical Tutor and Vampiric Tutor (though vampiric is expensive now) are really, really good. Also note that Counterbalance is another way to exploit topdeck manipulation, especially if you have your Sensei's Divining Top out. Don't forget Mystic Sanctuary.

  7. Don't discount Windfall and Fact or Fiction. They're really good. Windfall also works well with Narset, Parter of Veils or Notion Thief.

  8. Finally, don't forget about artifact ramp. Sol Ring is obviously the all-star here, but I think you should be running 2-mana rocks rather than 3-mana rocks. Consider running Arcane Signet, Talisman of Dominance, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Prismatic Lens, Sky Diamond, Charcoal Diamond or Coldsteel Heart instead of Commander's Sphere, Worn Powerstone and Seer's Lantern.

Right. That's all I got. Good luck!

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