|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Commander Anthology (CM1)||None|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Uncommon|
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Choose two target creature cards in your graveyard. Sacrifice a creature. If you do, return the chosen cards to the battlefield tapped.
|Have (3)||, rockleemyhero , Thunderbeard|
|Want (11)||thewyzman , pewpewlaserz , 2d_3d , Bonbonagaz , Aaryanna , gigimaci , Kagu11 , nufmen , skydivingninja , willfc3 , derpyplatypus|
1 week ago
Attrition Free sac outlets are better.
Buried Alive Significantly reduced need for creature tutors.
Chainer, Dementia Master Liliana is more focused towards the discard aspect I want.
Curse of Disturbance With fewer creatures comes less value out of this cycle of curses
Entomb Less need for creature tutors.
Fellwar Stone Lower curve means that I want to be using mana more efficiently, as opposed to tapping out on 2 to ramp.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel less overall devotion with the reduced creature count
Lightning Greaves Fewer creatures to protect in this version
Scythe Specter Too slow for this type of effect, the idea is to get rid of all opponent's hands as fast as possible and to keep them empty.
Stitcher's Supplier Less graveyard focus now, I dont need the self mill as much.
Victimize There just aren't enough good targets for this spell to be useful.
Liliana Vess More Discard, yay, also, more tutors.
Animate Dead the replacement for victimize, grabs one very important creature.
Razaketh, the Foulblooded More tutors!
Sensei's Divining Top Card selection is great.
Phyrexian Arena More consistent card draw.
Vampiric Tutor And even more tutors.
1 week ago
Overall, the Commander choice can be swapped to any Legendary. I don't particularly like Teysa, Orzhov Scion as you need Teysa + Razaketh, the Foulblooded + a creature. Teysa's ability doesn't work on herself and Razaketh can't sacrifice himself. Daxos is the same CMC as Teysa, so they work the same, except Daxos is Pay 2 Life: Search your Library for a card and put that card into your hand. Teysa needs another creature on board, and in order to get a second tutor, the creature that dies needs to be . You could run Darkest Hour but you need to ensure it is on board before you sacrifice. If Darkest Hour is your first tutor, the you still have the issue of needing to sacrifice a creature for the Teysa token to enter.
Daxos + Razaketh + = Tutor.
Teysa + Razaketh + Creature = Tutor.
In both scenarios the Commander can be sacrificed for a second Tutor, but Teysa doesn't provide any value being sacrificed. Teysa doesn't see added value if the first creature sacrificed isn't Black, and won't see value over Daxos with the additional tutor line until the third Tutor. If need be, Daxos can be your second sacrifice, but with Teysa you will want to keep her on board to get any value from her.
Sanctum Prelate is an interesting card. My only concern is what number would we call? 2 seems most likely, to stop Counter magic, but that stops us from casting 2/3 of our Reanimate Auras. You could call 1 in order to stop the single mana Counters and then you only stop your own Altar of the Brood .
Winter Orb is a great idea, I will definitely look into adding it with other stuff like Defense Grid . You should not overvalue Serra's Sanctum though. I have it included in the deck because I own it, but it is rarely game breaking. It is a good land, but most games end before it really starts to show value. I find myself tutoring for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth more often.
There are 8 cards to win from the LRW combo. A few of these pieces can be removed. Altar of the Brood is not one that should be removed though. It provides a win from LRW or the Bomberman combo. Grim Guardian works with both combos, (as long as you're running Daxos as the Commander), and Underworld Coinsmith is primarily for Bomberman. If you're looking to cut one or more of them, Falkenrath Noble is the most expensive to cast. If you want the universal effect then Cruel Celebrant or Zulaport Cutthroat are likely cuts. Altar of Dementia provides a Mill win if you don't have access to Altar of the Brood. This is a useful piece to keep as it helps you win around Solitary Confinement / Phyrexian Unlife effects.
1 week ago
I appreciate that he's a reasonable mana sink; but one has to resolve bomberman, wait for an entire turn pass, then it can win. For this reason I believe that he's ineffective.
Whereas Teysa, Orzhov Scion features an interaction package, replaces herself, and feeds razaketh like a proper champ, turning most bodies into 2 bodies. You can even just tutor for Darkest Hour off of the first raza' activation and then you have unbounded raza' fodder.
Personally (though it only sees fringe-play) I like Sanctum Prelate as a hatebear. If you know a card that is likely to stop you from winning, it's very easy to name it's mana cost and have it remain as a continuous hatebear.
Your lands could use some work too; cutting Vault of the Archangel (if you have 5 mana to spare then I feel like something's going wrong) for a card like Lake of the Dead , Strip Mine , Wasteland . Depending on how low your hand gets, some lands which draw are viable too like Sea Gate Wreckage .
You currently have 7 cards that win from LRW (not including coinsmith). That seems like a lot for a deck with access to the best tutors; I'd recommend stripping some of the worse ones down like Altar of the Brood and Altar of Dementia and replacing them with more hate. I'd recommend Bitter Ordeal as an alternate win condition, because it's not shut out by null rod, or any single counterspell (except flusterstorm, but screw that card).
Authority of the Consuls is neat, depending on your meta. It stops godo and some other decks, but I'd be hesitant to run it alongside Blind Obedience . Is there a particular reason for this? If it's just a hateful card, I'd recommend trying out Victimize or Reanimate as I'm sure your hateful cards could use another go.
3 weeks ago
Hey buddy! Decent start so far. I never liked how expensive the cost for gorgons was though lol Below are a few ideas that came to mind that might help with Hapatra and your death theme.
Some Creatures to consider:
3 weeks ago
So this is a link to my paper Karador deck: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/that-was-karadorable-copy-1/?cb=1554224847
I think it has a lot of the things that you are trying to do, minus some synergies. My deck tries to grind more value from the creatures and eventually win through a fantastic win with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord sacrificing Lord of Extinction after fueling the graveyard with Hermit Druid (the deck plays lots of basics, so it isn't as bad as it looks to the opponents) and Underrealm Lich .
Some general suggestions for your deck:
Cut the cluestones and add the signets in their place. The difference between ramping on 3 to 5 is less important than from 2 to 4.
Cards that I think should be in every Karador deck:
Pattern of Rebirth This was reprinted in UMA and is a couple dollars. If you can kill your stuff, it fetches anything at instant speed.
Birthing Pod Pod is so much value and it makes you consider your creature curve. It helps lower it a bit to give your more diverse choices on the lower end. Pod also just so happens to kill your commander (who is usually cast for 3 mana) to fetch a Void Winnower to make opponents sad.
Eldritch Evolution I am unsure if I saw this card in the deck, but this card is a baby pod that can get ANY card with x+2 mana of the card you sacrificed. You can turn a 5 drop into a better 4, or even a 7. Whatever is needed. Amazing value.
3 weeks ago
Firemane Angel Flamewake Phoenix Grave Betrayal Gruesome Menagerie Gutterbones Immortal Servitude Infernal Offering Isareth the Awakener Marshal's Anthem March from the Tomb Magister of Worth Necrotic Plague Profane Command Rally the Ancestors Rescue from the Underworld Restoration Gearsmith Return to the Ranks Stitch Together Tempt with Immortality Tethmos High Priest Undying Evil Unhallowed Pact Victimize Wake the Dead Whisper, Blood Liturgist Call to the Feast Countless Gears Renegade Custodi Soulbinders Dawn of Hope Entrapment Maneuver Leonin Warleader Martial Coup Sram's Expertise Start / Finish Butcher of the Horde Mardu Ascendancy
3 weeks ago
Hey, consider adding a reanimation strategy as an alternative way to get Demons onto the battlefield?
Buried Alive , Faithless Looting and Gamble are upgrades for enablers to get Demons into your graveyard. Buried gives you complete control over what Demons you search for and put into your graveyard. Looting can be used two times because of flashback. Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead and Victimize are low mana cost cards to reanimate a Demon. This package of six cards can do a lot for your deck.
Consider Hammer of Purphoros , Urabrask the Hidden and Anger ? Most Demons don't have haste which means that they can't attack or really do much the turn you play them. Anger is good with Buried or Looting to put it into your graveyard. Consider Rakdos Signet and Talisman of Indulgence ? More two drop mana rocks. Consider Chaos Warp ? It's a staple instant removal spell in Commander.
For the manabase here's some budget lands ($3 or less each) to consider: Command Tower , Foreboding Ruins , Smoldering Marsh , Ash Barrens , Grixis Panorama , Jund Panorama , Shadowblood Ridge , Tainted Peak and Graven Cairns . All these lands can ETB (enter the battlefield) untapped.
Cards to consider cutting:
- 5x Swamp
- Rakdos Guildgate
- Bloodfell Caves
- Rupture Spire
- Gateway Plaza
- Demonspine Whip
- Rakdos Keyrune
- Rakdos Locket
- Dreamstone Hedron
- Curse of Bloodletting
- Grave Betrayal
- Disrupt Decorum
- Ancient Craving
- Goblin Lore
- Tormenting Voice
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
Vash13 Thank you for the compliment!
That is a good point about Victimize . I might reconsider mainboarding it again. The main reason why I took it out in the first place is that it gives a chance to respond since sacrificing the creature is not a cost but part of the spell resolving, so for the combo to become unstoppable you need another piece like Sylvan Safekeeper out. I opted for other combos that are harder to respond to, e.g. Necromancy at end of the turn as instant or a chain with Body Snatcher where you hold priority and respond to it's own trigger and use a sac outlet. Some of these are a bit more complicated but they are harder to stop (Since getting the nut draw in EDH is always a long shot)
Victimize occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.07%
BUG (Sultai): 0.57%