|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Commander Anthology (CM1)||None|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Uncommon|
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Choose two target creature cards in your graveyard. Sacrifice a creature. If you do, return the chosen cards to the battlefield tapped.
5 days ago
@OrgasmAndTea Ok, first, I love your username. Yeah Altar is fantastic in multiplayer edh, in fact it's one of the wincons in my Varina and Jhoira deck. I don't think it would be great in this deck however if that's what you were wondering. The main strategy is to mill myself, so I don't want to spend extra resources or card slots to start milling others, especially since Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre became a thing. This deck also treats 2/2 black zombies as fodder for cards like Ashnod's Altar , Victimize , Phyrexian Plaguelord , etc, so that's why I don't run Parallel Lives , Graveborn Muse , Gravespawn Sovereign , etc.
5 days ago
Yo austintayshus, I love the jankiness of this idea. Out of the commander you listed I would actually think Thraximundar might be your best bet. There is definitely enough cards in the pool for one word cards that also can be useful. Grixis colors also give you plenty of options to work around with his ability. You have cards like Reanimate , Victimize , Necromancy for the recursion tech. Plaguecrafter , Vendetta , Damnation , Dismember for the removal tech. Card draw isn't that bad as you have cards like Ponder , Preordain , Brainstorm , Impulse , Windfall .
Going from there you also have strong protection package like Delay , Counterspell , Pyroblast , Flusterstorm , Dispel . Yeah the more I think about it Grixis is a pretty strong color for what your going for in addition to being pretty friendly on the budget as well.
Hope that helps!
1 week ago
Gotcha. I would just go with sac outlets, then. Phyrexian Tower just went from like $60 to $10 because of the reprint. Infernal Offering , Recurring Nightmare , Rescue from the Underworld , Victimize , and Whisper, Blood Liturgist all offer recursion. Altar's Reap , Fling , Costly Plunder , Culling the Weak , Plunge into Darkness , Vicious Offering , Devour Flesh , Merciless Resolve , Sacrifice , Collateral Damage , Burnt Offering , Carrion , Fiery Conclusion , Spontaneous Combustion , and Dredge are all better instant-speed ways to leverage Xantcha. Or you could just Inferno or Starstorm to kill the board.
2 weeks ago
I like Undying Evil for this kind of deck. Does great things with Gary, Tree of Perdition, etc. Also, since you can sac at instant speed, Mesmeric Fiend permanently exiles, since you can sac it in response to the ETB trigger, making it better than Kitesail Freebooter and other newer cards that have been worded to avoid that interaction. I agree that Grave Pact is a must-have. Some more ramp and card draw wouldn't hurt. I'm partial to Jet Medallion , Charcoal Diamond , Mind Stone , and Thought Vessel for rocks, and Syphon Mind is my favorite mono-black draw spell.
As for lands, Crypt of Agadeem would be good here. Phyrexian Tower just got reprinted. It's a bit pricey, but it is VERY good, and having been $60 just a few months ago with no likely reprint in the near future, pick it up now. Temple of the False God is a bad card, full stop. It is never correct to include it. Ever. That's not just me talking, but virtually every EDH content creator out there.
I'm not sure how you feel about the budget issue with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , but it would be a very good addition, even before taking the combo with Walking Ballista or Triskelion into account. It's a solid addition to a black deck, and there are some affordable tutors that can get both pieces like Beseech the Queen , Diabolic Intent (on theme, so maybe add it regardless), Sidisi, Undead Vizier (also on theme!), and Netherborn Phalanx .
As for reanimation, Rise from the Grave is pretty inefficient, and upgrading to Animate Dead , Victimize (on theme!), Dread Return (apparently there's a lot of sac'ing in black, who knew?), Sepulchral Primordial (great with repeatable ETB effects), Rise of the Dark Realms (expensive, but a black staple in EDH), Necromancy , Thrilling Encore (great if you can sac with Dictate of Erebos or Grave Pact ), Ever After (one more mana for twice the value), Whisper, Blood Liturgist , Champion of Stray Souls (so much sac'ing), Hell's Caretaker (again, so much sac'ing), Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni , Rescue from the Underworld (on-theme), Infernal Offering (sac!), Necromantic Summons (strictly better than Rise), Zombify , and Footsteps of the Goryo (...sac).
2 weeks ago
Potential Adds: Artisan of Kozilek , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Ever After , Cauldron Dance , Unburial Rites , Infernal Offering , Fearsome Awakening , Dawn of the Dead , Whip of Erebos , Apprentice Necromancer , Life / Death , Sidisi, Brood Tyrant , Liliana Vess , Tasigur, the Golden Fang , Tormenting Voice , Karador, Ghost Chieftain , The Mimeoplasm , Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Sedris, the Traitor King , Taigam, Sidisi's Hand , Underrealm Lich , Victimize , Sylvan Safekeeper , Realms Uncharted , Reanimate ,
Definitely put in this: Solemn Simulacrum
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Took a look over your deck, I like what your doing! However just as what hecubus333 mentioned, the CMC curve on the deck seems on the higher side. On a personal take, this was what my Teneb deck looked similar to before I tuned it for more of a competitive meta.
I also agree on your perspective on using unorthodox commanders for fun and tuning them competitively or as far as you can push them! For my thoughts on the matter, feel free to take it with a grain of salt!
These are good if you have multiple ways of abusing them or cheating them out but Ashen Rider and Angel of Despair cost way too much for these effects, I would consider only adding in one of these effects. Butcher of Malakir is another card that has way too high of a CMC when you are already running both Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos , it should be considered being cut. Wurmcoil Engine while being fun, is a win more card and also can be swapped for something that gives you advantage. While I love redundancy effects, Falkenrath Noble is also too high for the effects that are similar to the Blood Artist as well as Zulaport Cutthroat . Burnished Hart while a fan favorite just only ramps you when going competitive you have access to faster mana rocks which does it much better. For the last thought I have on creatures like what hecubus333 as for 6 CMC is does not much and there are alternative ways to get better card draw.
In your artifact section, I am not a fan of 3 CMC rocks unless they provide an extra ability like say for example, Chromatic Lantern or Commander's Sphere . The former provides color fixing and the latter card draw that doesn't require you to tap to activate. With that being said, I would take out the Orzhov Cluestone , Darksteel Ingot , as well as Strionic Resonator . In replacement mana rocks like Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Mox Diamond , Grim Monolith can be used. Or if going for more on the budget friendly route, Thought Vessel , Everflowing Chalice , Sensei's Divining Top , and Scroll Rack are other cards to consider.
Unburial Rites as well as Victimize are decent but Necromancy and Dance of the Dead provide cheaper cost as well as more efficiency, in addition they can target your opponents creatures in their grave as well. Sorin, Grim Nemesis is good in a casual format, but as said before 6 CMC for card draw is really rough. Albeit I do like that on the resolution you do get CA right away so that's a plus.
Now for cards I would consider adding, here is a list you can consider:
- Tymna the Weaver
- Dark Confidant / Mindblade Render
- Viscera Seer / Carrion Feeder
- Toxic Deluge
- Vampiric Tutor
- Demonic Tutor
- Diabolic Intent
- Enlightened Tutor
- Dark Ritual
- Culling the Weak
- Leonin Relic-Warder
- Smothering Tithe
Those are just some off the top of my head I can think of. For Orzhov colors you want to try obtain as much Card Advantage (CA) as possible as that is what we are weak on as well as mana acceleration.
Hope that gives you some insight! Feel free to ask for any advice, help, or perspective! Down to help tuning decks!
Victimize occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.6%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.24%
U/B (Dimir): 0.08%
BRG (Jund): 0.13%
RBW (Mardu): 0.06%
BUG (Sultai): 0.32%
BGW (Abzan, Junk): 0.12%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0.08%