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Life from the Loam
Return up to three target land cards from your graveyard to your hand.
Dredge 3 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly three cards from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)
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Life from the Loam Discussion
1 day ago
You have already stated that Opal Palace was your plan B wincon, but have you ever considered running Seismic Assault as backup win condition? I understand that the mana cost is RRR, but considering you run 26 mountains I think it will be fine. While it interests me, I can't help but feel that it would require some support on its own to function at full capacity. However, by adding cards, such as Creeping Renaissance and Sunder, that put lands into our hand en masse would allow it to work very well (while also making Manabond an even stronger card!).
While on the subject of Creeping Renaissance I have a few more things I'd like to say about it. This seems to be a card that has potential within this deck due to its versatility (although, perhaps with a build more centered around the grave?). The main selling points being that it has flashback (in case it is milled by Life from the Loam or you just want to use it again) and that it says "choose permanent type". That could be significant in the scenario where you need to retrieve some stax pieces that have been previously destroyed.
While I'm talking about all of these cards I might as well go more in depth about Sunder too! I think this could be used as a devastating blowout, provided we could rebuild quicker than our opponents with abilities like Burgeoning and Walking Atlas. The only issue is that its casting cost has UU in it, which is the rarest color in the deck.
I'd really like to hear your thoughts on these three big cards
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4 days ago
Thank you for putting up with all of my questions and helping me further understand the deck! Although, there are still a few major things I can't quite grasp by looking at it displayed on a screen instead of being played on a table.
From what I understand you have 9 lands that sacrifice themselves for potent effects like Strip Mine and others that sacrifice for value (and aid with valakut triggers) like Myriad Landscape. So, when you use Splendid Reclamation and the second effect of World Shaper is it your goal to bring these specific lands back and reap more value? Or do you hope to use the effects of Life from the Loam and Excavation to bring lands en masse for a huge play? It probably depends on the situation, but I'd like to know the mind set for when you use these cards.
My next question is about your lack of land protection. Do you not have a lot of land destruction in your meta or do you prefer to combat it with your counter spells and land recursion? I only ask this because in my Child of Alara deck I used Skyshroud Blessing and Bind to protect my lands (plus they cantrip).
Lastly, could you fully explain why Ground Seal was taken out from the deck? I understand that it 100% shuts off Scavenging Ooze. However, it only stops the main ability of Life from the Loam as you could target zero lands and then start using dredge to fill a protected graveyard. In this case I think its amazing unsymmetrical graveyard hate that draws us a card with minimal hindrance to the deck as a whole.
5 days ago
you hold Surgical Extraction for the pay off cards unless you have a fast clock on board. Bloodghast, Narcomoeba and occasionally Conflagrate in response to Life from the Loam are the main targets. there is alot to consider with extraction vs dredge. A simple example: if you're gonna surgical bloodghast, you cant wait for their landdrop. if they play a fetch they can double-trigger ghast and nullify extraction.
Surgical isn't easy to navigate, but if you do it correctly, its great.
ignore the enablers (some corner cases excluded). Dredge is actually very threat-light. if you can keep Amalgam from triggering, thats a winning game.
i also regularly extract Creeping Chill but that comes down to math. if you can survive all 4 chills + conflagrate, you just let it happen and wait to hit their actual threats. thats a game to game call you have to make.
1 week ago
Alright! Meloku the Clouded Mirror is a expensive card for sure. But I kinda like it. Trade Routes is better. But I am going to stick with the 1/1 illusion maker. Its been good to have that token generation is some situations.
Hedron Crab, no, I don't think it is useful.
Training Grounds. YES! YES! YES! play it it is that good!
Life from the Loam. This is probably a player preferens. I did play it, but I never dreaded it. My build isen't that grave focused. And I never really felt that I needed it. Or could utilize it that well. But you can make the build a lot different and suddenly make great use of the card.
Aggressive Mining. I have never tested it. But you could defiantly play it. We can put lands in play with this in play anyways. With this Life from the Loam gets better. If you wanna go that route go for it. I think it will work.
I guess I should say that my playgroup has a lot of grave hate. So that is kinda way I don't play these cards.
Kraum, Ludevic's Opus is really good. he cad draw 3 cards a turn vs three opponents. But other then that he is color identity red and a good fighter.
2 weeks ago
I just began playing EDH a couple of months ago and my first deck was a Child of Alara land deck that used Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle as the primary win condition. Recently I have wanted to change the commander and possibly shave off a color or two in the process! While researching more land based commanders I stumbled upon your temur build and it grabbed my interest. Due to this I have lots of questions :)
Why are you running Meloku the Clouded Mirror instead of Trade Routes? It has a much lower CMC, dodges prevalent creature removal, and has a second ability that could be relevant in certain situations. Also Llanowar Scout is literally just a better Budoka Gardener. They have the same ability although his body is better and he wont forcefully change into a different creature. His body is also better than Walking Atlas but because the atlas is colorless it is still great and definitely deserves a spot.
One interesting card I stumbled upon is Hedron Crab as he helps fill your graveyard. Do you think it could be a useful card?
Would you ever use the card Clear the Land? It is a way to put land onto the battlefield, but it presents a risk as it could exile any number of cards. The card would be hilarious if someone tutored before your turn and was forced to exile what they wanted.
Is Return to the Earth worth the extra cost when compared to something like Naturalize? I understand that it kills Aven Mindcensor and the cost is less important when you have lots of lands, but it still seems very heavy.
I really like the card Excavation and have seen a card that is kind of similar but also quite different called Aggressive Mining. Maybe it could be used before the 'big turn' to try and find more fuel for a Manabond or something else? Plus the sacrificed lands could be easily recurred and used later. I'm curious to see if you would you ever use this, why or why not?
Would you ever consider shifting the deck to Lord Windgrace or do you thing that would make the deck less reliable? By gaining black you would have access to more tutors, but you already have land tutors and that is about all you need... But by losing blue you would eliminate lots of sources of card draw and stax effects. So I guess answered my own question lol, but still want to hear your opinion.
Alright! I think that is all of the questions I have at the moment. Thank you for sharing this deck! This may be the way I want to change my Child of Alara deck and your answers will help me fully decide this.