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Life from the Loam
Return up to three target land cards from your graveyard to your hand.
Dredge 3 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly three cards from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)
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Life from the Loam Discussion
3 days ago
Sorry I was unable to respond quickly, however here is my delayed response:
Any other set may not do, as legacy reprints are not made. When was the last printing of Recruiter of the Guard , Sanctum Prelate , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Life from the Loam , etc. Eternal Masters, Ultimate Masters, and some of the other Masters sets were a great addition to the reprints, but now that masters are gone, where are they gonna put them?
Also, legacy reprints don't need to be kept expensive, they sell packs. That is all they need to do.
4 days ago
Eternal Witness , Green Sun's Zenith , and Chord of Calling definitely have a place here (and ignore those that say E-Wit is overrated: your commander gives you the necessary reanimation outlet to bring it back, and your deck should be well tuned to sacrifice it for value). I'd also strongly recommend Reclamation Sage for similar reasons: mana rocks and enchantments are really good in this format.
Board wipes would be nice here. It's not like you don't have reanimation.
Bojuka Bog also belongs here.
Things that don't spark joy:
- Dark Ritual : you're not a fast combo deck. It doesn't really belong.
- The Eldest Reborn : Any normal Edict is probably better, you've got a great reanimation package already, and there are better ways of forcing discard. It's kind of win-more.
- Golgari Findbroker : E-Wit is strictly better.
- Wall of Blossoms : There are better card draw permanents in Green.
1 week ago
Tranquil Thicket and other cycling lands are best used in Golgari/Sultai strategies in the presence of Life from the Loam so long as you have the mana to keep the dredge combo going. Probably not for this deck.
Scavenger Grounds is really good, but it can hurt to hit yourself with it. Could be a meta call include.
Arcane Lighthouse isn't largely necessary in a build like this.
My personal input for this Blighted Woodland discussion is that the marginal difference is so slim that I don't think you would notice any major difference if you placed a forest in over it. It just comes down to your preference, so if you feel like it's a nice addition to the deck then by all means keep it. It's your deck after all, I don't think a forest would make an impactful enough difference aside from making green mana to warrant the slot.
1 week ago
I came across Roil Elemental while building this deck. My main concern has always been the CMC. I'd have to try it before saying with certainty there's no room for it, though.
As for World Shaper , if I were running a more 'standard' dredge or creature sacrifice deck, then absolutely I'd play this card. But as it stands, I currently only have self-sacrificing creatures. So there would never be any way for me to use his second ability reliably. His mill three is good, but Hedron Crab is both cheaper, and able to multiple trigger if need be (not to mention I also have Life from the Loam with the same ability).
Still going to consider at the Elemental. It might be a lot better than I give it credit :)
1 week ago
I use Crucible of Worlds in my Tasigur list because he can't return lands with his ability, so it's a nice residual effect to keep getting land drops. In conjunction with Exploration the card is bonkers, and Life from the Loam fulfills a very similar role. Some cards you named, as well as others commented below are simply known as "Goodstuff" for good reason. They're just really good value cards to utilize and my Taigur list I mentioned is primarily a Combo Control build with a Goodstuff subtheme because high value cards that help me play magic more readily and increase my deck's longevity work really well in my meta.
Some of these types of cards that I've seen mentioned here are only really expensive because they haven't seen reprints. An example of this is Exquisite Blood . This card has only been printed once and was, for a time, much cheaper than where it stands right now. Sanguine Bond combos with Exquisite Blood , yet it costs less than a dollar because it's a card that has been reprinted five times. Cards like Oracle of Mul Daya or Bloom Tender would not be $40 cards if they had been printed more than once, but because they've only been printed in one set, that's why they're still so high up there and slowly but surely going to keep rising. I think Gaddock Teeg is a great example of this trend. For a time, I believe I saw him going for $35-$40, but when I saw that he was reprinted in Ultimate Masters, his price dropped to right around $7. His Lorwyn print still averages at ~$25, but if you actually look at what they are going for, you're actually looking at buying that exact print for $10.
I'm not sure if this was the intended discussion, but just seeing the suggested cards this looked like the perfect place to share this topic. The economics of the secondary card market is really interesting stuff.
1 week ago
Fierce Empath tutors for:
- Woodfall Primus - removal/finisher
- Sun Titan - Graveyard Recursion Value
- Harvester of Souls - Draw after board setup
- Izoni, Thousand-Eyed - Token Generation when yard stocked
Dimir House Guard usually tutors for:
- Price of Fame - instant speed removal + surveil. Cost reduced to kill commanders
- Guardian Project - Draw Engine
- Peregrination - Ramp
- Corpsejack Menace - Combo with commander
- Debt to the Deathless - Finisher/Lifegain
- Return to Dust Artifact/Enchantment Removal
- Marshal's Anthem Token enhancer
- Decree of Justice - small token spam / big flying token generator
- Teysa Karlov - Enhances enchantment engines (usually weak pick)
Mwonvuli Beast Tracker gets:
- Acidic Slime - Artifact/Enchantment/Land removal
- Woodfall Primus - Finisher / Removal Combo
- Harvester of Souls - Draw Engine
- Night Incarnate - small board wipe via -3/-3
Other tutors are Mausoleum Secrets (situational depending on graveyard) and Fauna Shaman (creatures - if she untaps)
Some cheap pieces to keep in mind are:
1 week ago
Update: I made some upgrades to make the deck a little more combo-y. Mostly, woodfall primus for a MLD wincon (after the deck has locked out all opponent's creatures, time to start blowing up all the rest of the non-creature permanents to secure a grind-y win).
Really happy with how the deck plays - off to a slow start but able to keep threats in check and ramp up to a ton of resources. The budget tutor suite seemed fairly effective.
I think I might need even more green sources - early ramp is so clutch. Kindof worried about white basics, white seems the least critical component but there are a lot of double white cards.
Most of my decks are very commander centric - I really like that this one feels like in no rush to get out the commander on curve.
Oversold Cemetery is straight up value - play it on curve and you will always have extra resources coming back to your hand with cards like Sakura-Tribe Elder , Fauna Shaman , and Fertilid . Works like a second Phyrexian Arena at a lower mana cost no less!
Coolest part of this homebrew was that apart from buying the commander on a whim I just happened to have all the rest of the 99 cards in my collection already. And all I wanted to smash bad BW tokens and BG token decks together to make something 3 color that would have access to more card options.
I would love to add in a Dryad Arbor as a reason to include my Green Sun's Zenith . I could also see adding The Gitrog Monster since he would be fetchable. I am not really looking to raise the CMC much more, but he looks like so much gross value with the draw and with Life from the Loam .
1 week ago
Hey thanks for commenting! I agree the decks response to Blood Moon is inconsistent. If you check out the counter-play section I have a little bit on it. Right now I have Chill and All Is Dust in my sideboard as responses too it. I've been thinking about Engineered Explosives but only run two colors. Due to the lack of basic lands as you pointed out have stayed away from Krosan Grip , but may have to reassess it. Daze actually could work with the Breeding Pool but only if they are tapped out. The reason I went with All Is Dust is because I found the likelihood of me getting those singular basic lands was little to none in games where I hadn't already dropped a huge amount of lands into play and I found All Is Dust to have more potential sideboard uses against other things, and could be played after Blood Moon enters play because of the colorless cost.
Ancient Tomb , making that change now. I originally didn't have it in there because I was using them all in EDH decks but now that the deck has evolved to be more competitive I can't believe that didn't occur to me to change.
I'm curious about Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , can you explain it? What exactly is the value of it? I have seen other people running it in deck list but I think I'm missing something obvious, just haven't seen it in action in a lands deck.
Life from the Loam I'm gonna pass on. Just because I am already pulling lands so quickly with Manabond + Treasure Hunt and one of the biggest Achilles heels I've seen with the mainstream Lands deck that relies on Dredge is it gets toasted by sideboards that have Leyline of the Void , Surgical Extraction , or Rest in Peace on hand.
Life from the Loam occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
BUG (Sultai): 1.18%
BRG (Jund): 1.02%
All decks: 0.37%
All decks: 0.09%