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Deep Analysis Discussion
6 days ago
Hope of Ghirapur is already in the deck.
Memnite is fantastic and is not coming out. The ability to drop it first turn with a 1-drop dork for a turn 2 Edric AND a draw is too good to pass up. The only other way to get that is using a 0 mana accelerant, which are much more inconsistent.
Has anyone considered that I don't have Capture of Jingzhou simply because a) I'm out of room, and b) the HD package is just better? It's not necessary to chain turns together if on one of those turns you straight up win. Right now I can swap Temporal Mastery for Capture if people really think it's necessary, but I already don't have enough room for Deep Analysis, so right now the HD combo needs Edric and the combat step for the winning LabMan draw. Personally I'd put Deep Analysis back in before Capture. If anyone can think of some good swaps let me know, but until then I'm not going to put in another 5 mana spell that doesn't contribute to my plan A.
Also, Carpet of Flowers is in the sideboard and is going to stay in the sideboard. It's pretty much an obvious swap for a Llanowar Elves/Elvish Mystic/Fyndhorn Elves/What-have-you, and I don't like putting meta dependent cards in the mainboard if I don't have to.
2 weeks ago
I'm a fan! This is the Noyan list that matches the playstyle I am looking for the most. I have a few questions though.
You have a few quite narrow answers. Do these kinds of threats and situations come up often enough in general to warrant a slot or are they just a meta call for you? For example, Hushwing Gryff, Submerge, Hallowed Moonlight, Mental Misstep, Squelch. I'm also on the fence about Teferi's Response but I can see the blowouts it can create.
Is Cataclysmic Gearhulk strong enough compared to other boardwipes? Flashing it in with Scout's Warning must be fun, but I feel like letting my opponents choose ruins the card.
Aside from regular counterspells, are Sacred Ground and Teferi's Response enough protection for your lands? Asking because your mtgsalvation list had Terra Eternal, Trade Routes and Mother of Runes as well.
One last question, despite Deep Analysis being pure value, does the sorcery speed not mess with you too much?
3 weeks ago
Yeah he makes sense but I had my hopes up for something else given that to work for FC and HD combo I need a minimum of Deep Analysis. What do I cut to make room for him and deep analysis. I also had my heart set on adding Gaea's Cradle to get to 30 lands
3 weeks ago
I used your deck to playtest against for the last hour or so and I have a few suggestions (I'll put some playtest notes at the bottom if you're interested). Overall, I think your cards could be more impactful, and I think you need more artifact ramp. You should also add a bit of graveyard hate. I notice that the deck cost is fairly low, so I'll keep my suggestions relatively budget friendly.
Ramp: Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, Druidic Satchel, Darksteel Ingot, Sol Ring, Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, Wayfarer's Bauble, Dreamscape Artist. I would consider adding all of these cards, they will make your deck MUCH faster.
Final dump that I'm too lazy to organize: Phyrexian Reclamation, Drogskol Reaver, Tainted Sigil, Phyrexian Arena, Sphinx of the Steel Wind, Wall of Reverence, Defiant Bloodlord, Cliffhaven Vampire, Crypt Ghast, Ashen Rider, Beacon of Immortality, Dig Through Time, Fumigate, Chalice of Life Flip, Sun Droplet
Archangel of Tithes - Too much white, and your mana base isn't great.
Augury Adept - Too easy to block. Far too often this card does nothing.
Bloodbond Vampire - It gets big. Eventually. This is too slow.
Exalted Angel - This is 6 mana for a 4/4 flying lifelink. That is just bad.
Indulgent Tormentor - In EDH, paying the life is too easy.
Mourning Thrull - Uh...yeah. Doesn't really do anything. Change to ramp.
Resolute Archangel - High Cost, and if you're losing, this is not going to make you win except in VERY particular circumstances.
Seraph of Dawn - This is bad.
Tithe Drinker - There are better extort cards, and it's otherwise underwhelming.
Underworld Coinsmith - Slow and low impact.
Ruinous Path - Sorcery Speed.
Entreat the Angels - If this wins you the game, it's be a miracle (hehe). For real though, there are WAY better end game cards. check out
Moonsilver Spear - This is OK. It's slow, it makes tokens. I want every card in a deck to make me smile when I draw it, and this card just makes me go, "Ah, I see."
Steel of the Godhead - This is just kinda OK. Only creature to put it on is Oloro.
Sunbond - Slow and opens you up to being 2 for 1ed.
Sunspring Expedition - If you are going to play a card that only gains you life, it needs to gain you a lot of life. 8 is not a lot of life.
Pulse of the Fields - If an opponent has more life, you're doing something wrong.
Riot Control - Unless this card is great in your meta, it just doesn't belong is most decks. You should be controlling the field enough that this card doesn't do anything.
Samite Ministration - See above.
To the Slaughter - Yes, it can kill a planeswalker. But other than that, most people have a little shit creature they don't care about that they can sacrifice, and this costs 3 mana.
Anyway, I hope deckbuilding goes well! It looks like your building a fun deck. Cheers!
Playtest notes: I playtested against Reaper King stars in MTG: The Clone Wars. Obviously, mine is a MUCH more expensive and tuned deck, so it should win. I chose your deck despite the obvious mismatch because I'm getting some buddies into EDH and I wanted to make a deck that was powerful but didn't overwhelm them. Your deck seemed to roughly match the budget of what they'll be building. Overall, Reaper King lost one game and won three. The loss involved you getting an Elspeth and enough removal to protect her. The wins were mostly because of a lack of graveyard hate, not enough removal, threats that weren't very threatening, and mana issues. I think the mana issues deal was largely a luck thing, as you play enough lands, but some ramp would really smooth that out.
3 weeks ago
So far, the main piles i have are Top- Thought Scour, Laboratory Maniac, Darkblast, Unearth, Pick a card -Bottom with 2 Draw cards in hand or 1 with Top on the field all you would need is UBB or UUBB(or Pact) to be safer.
If I were to swap in Deep Analysis, the pile would look more like Top- Thought Scour, Laboratory Maniac, Deep Analysis, Unearth, Pick a card -Bottom, With Gitaxian Probe would cost 1UUB 5hp, not the best pile but an option.
And for Ideas Unbound, I personally feel that going Lotus Petal over Top is the best choice to use, Petal in the pile itself(Though Lion's Eye Diamond is best), along side LED is really the only good way to just hard cast Lab Man, Top- Ideas Unbound, Lotus Petal, Gitaxian Probe, Laboratory Maniac, Gitaxian Probe -Bottom, UUU and 4HP gets you there, less HP if depending on lands or what you have on field and hand. What you could also do is add in a single Chromatic Sphere to replace one of the 5 to have a safer win through priority.
Sorry this is the best I could manage, apart from the various possibilities of what is in hand and on the field, and Doom piles are still a work in progress for me, its getting "late" for me and piles are hard on a major budget XD (Formatting posts are hard)
3 weeks ago
Thank you, I am very new to legacy only playing my friends Death & Taxes deck and very much enjoy Doomsday as a card. In regards to Sunken Hollow over Underground River, I do see where you are going with that, especially if the game goes longer than I would like it to go. I have been looking around at other decks and piles and have seen uses of Lotus Petal or Chromatic Sphere to keep hold of priority, as well as using Ideas Unbound but unsure if that is only good in using with Lion's Eye Diamond piles. Deep Analysis is another one I thought about using throwing it into my grave shouldn't be that hard using Mental Note though Thought Scour should be a "better choice" being slightly more flexible.
4 weeks ago
First off, I'm glad to see that the confusion regarding Kaho's ability was sorted out.
As for recommendations, I would highly recommend replacing your sorcery draw spells with something a bit more manageable. Deep Analysis is easier on the mana cost with fixed card draw, but the flashback makes up for it in my opinion. Also take a look at Recurring Insight. It costs one more mana than Rush of Knowledge, but I feel you would get more out of it with the rebound.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is something I'd recommend for every mono-color deck. Especially those lacking ramp. You have enough creatures and enchantments to warrant playing off the devotion here.
The kinda feels like a spellslinger deck to me, so maybe look to add Aetherflux Reservoir? It'll give you another win condition, and works well with the passive lifegain from Venser's Journal. If you decide to go this route, I would highly recommend finding room for Alhammarret's Archive. Effectively, it would be another Thought Reflection that would also double your life gain from both the Reservoir and Journal.
1 month ago
Storm in EDH is difficult at best, with staring lifetotals at 40 and no Pyromancer Ascension, things can get tough.
Obviously, you want any kind of Brainstorm effect or cantrip. Serum Visions, Opt, Overmaster, etc. However, having hard draw also helps out immensely once you build your Experience counters. Deep Analysis, Rush of Knowledge, Browbeat, Blue Sun's Zenith, etc.