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Creature — Zombie Horror
Skulk (This creature can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may discard all the cards in your hand. If you do, draw that many cards.
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Forgotten Creation Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
fangshway thank you for your suggestions. Intuition is already being considered, and I will probably pass on the Teferi's Puzzle Box since it puts cards on the bottom of my library rather than the graveyard like you mentioned. While Forgotten Creation is good for sifting through my deck, I think Jace's Archivist fulfills that role already while also serving as a Necrotic Ooze target when it's in my graveyard. I originally thought Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip was bad for this deck, because Ooze would only be able to use his ability once, get "transformed" which would be an illegal board state, and essentially just get exiled and returned to the battlefield untapped and affected by summoning sickness. However now that I think of it, say I have Necrotic Ooze and Training Grounds on the battlefield with Blighted Bat and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip in my graveyard. Training Grounds would effectively reduce the bat's haste enabling ability to zero, which means I would be able to use Jace's ability an infinite number of times and deck myself out. I'm not sure if this is a more favorable strategy than a Merfolk Looter combo with Pili-Pala and Palladium Myr to fulfill the same outcome, but you have given me much to think about. Thanks again!
1 month ago
Well at this point most of the good ideas might be taken but from a more casual perspective here are some possible inclusions: Lord of the Accursed, Vengeful Dead, Binding Mummy, Forgotten Creation, Corpse Harvester, Noxious Ghoul. I especially like Noxious Ghoul with Endless Ranks of the Dead or Liliana, the Last Hope's emblem.
As for potential cuts I think your weakest cards are Tidehollow Sculler, Stitcher Geralf, Gisa and Geralf, and Reconnaissance. Each certainly has solid uses but without having played the deck or gone against it these seem to be the smallest effects. I hesitate to mention Zulaport Cutthroat and Blood Artist for cuts because they win me games often but zombies have at least 3 similar effects in the tribe. Those effects being on a zombie vs not one a zombie is something to consider.
The list already looks awesome... Great job putting this together!
1 month ago
The "all the cards in your hand" discard instead of simply "Discard your hand" likely come from needing the paper game to match the digitally programmed game. The first wording should allow the program to count the number of cars discarded when necessary..." argument is not correct.
The card can say whatever it wants, and the game can be programmed however they want. The card One with Nothing can be programed on resolution to display a picture of a potato instead of what it says on the card.
The real reason is templating and human understanding - compare Nicol Bolas and Forgotten Creation or the new card. If a card cares in any way about the number of cards discarded via the effect, it will be written out "discard all the cards in your hand". If the card that made you discard your hand does not care about how many you discard, the text is shorter ie One with Nothing.
1 month ago
DemonDragonJ I agree about the damage / life loss scenario. I'm obviously a traditionalist and fear change but it's part of what makes black black for me.
On the "Book Devourer" front, I thought the same, looks a bit clunky and awkward as text goes and I thought why, when Forgotten Creation just says 'your hand'...'til I looked it up. And it doesn't. So, I learned something today lol.
on Bruna the 女神
1 month ago
I'd recommend cutting some of the creatures if the plan is to go Voltron.
Some suggestions as follows:
Since Bruna cost 6 CMC to cast, we want to be able to cast her as early as possible and if able, have some backup protection (e.g. Counterspells) so that she survives to the next turn to swing in for massive Commander damage.
Azorius means we can only rely on Artifacts to ramp. I'd recommend some of the following, depending on your budget:
I'd run at least 10 mana rocks, or more if your deck permits, to ensure we can drop Bruna out asap.
There's also an entire suite of "Transmute" cards in blue that you have access to, depending on which are the key cards you need and if there's a matching CMC transmute card.
I'd recommend playing more "wheel effects" and aggressively draw and dump auras into your hand/graveyard early game, setting up the stage for Bruna to put them on once she comes online.
Cyclonic Rift is the blue staple.
But sometimes, offense is the best defense. I'd come back with more suggestions as and when I can dream them up!
1 month ago
usaDiabetic I actually sold this deck a few weeks back to help pay for other stuff, but I really miss it now. Doing wheel effects in a 4 player multiplayer game with both Sangromancer and Waste Not on the board just feels insane. My new toy is Moderate Budget Mimeoplasm EDH where I tried to go for a unique build with my favorite oppressive creatures in MTG as well as unusual picks like Key to the City and Forgotten Creation. I'd love your thoughts on it. Thanks again for the kind words.
2 months ago
Your deck looks like very good, I also have a Gisa and Geralf Commander deck and I like it a lot. So, I can give some suggestion based in the deck that a use:
As mass removal that I like is Kindred Dominance, You choose zombie and kill the others, it's very nice for tribal decks
Some other good suggestions: Skullclamp, liliana, death's majesty, Forgotten Creation, Graveborn Muse,... and of course Cyclonic Rift, I consider a must have card in all commanders deck that uses blue, Damnation can wait (I'm not use it too)