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Llanowar Elves Discussion
7 hours ago
I started with Modern as my first format. My deck list was a lot like yours, huge CMC creatures and tons of 1 ofs.
So a good place to start is to ask yourself, how do I want my deck to win? Once you figure out what the main way(s) your deck will win, then you can focus your game plan on making that happen.
You really want consistency in your deck. Try picking cards as 4 ofs instead of singletons. If you wouldn't want 4 copies of a card in your deck then it probably isn't worth running at all. (Please note this is only a beginner strategy to get you started and later in your career of magic this logic will no longer imply.) So to give yo a real world example: because you have a lot of big converted cost dinos, a card like Llanowar Elves is a card you would want 4 of. It helps your strategy by enabling ramp for big Dinos to come into play earlier.
So lets start there.
Lastly you'll need some form of interaction. Almost every deck in modern will have some form of interaction. You don't have to completely stop the opponent, just slow their plans enough for your plan to happen. A good choice for your deck would be Lightning Bolt but in your case Lightning Strike could work as a budget replacement. At high levels the difference in mana cost is huge but as someone new, it'll do just fine.
1 day ago
As a general rule you need around 50 mana sources in a deck in the form of lands, ramp, mana rocks or Llanowar Elves type dorks. Since I counted 38 total in your deck, I'm worried about mana screw same as Nesmer2. I have an artifact deck with 33 lands but that one runs 10+ low-costed mana rocks which are missing here. Granted there are decks with even lower lands but those are cEDH yolo lists that aim to T1/2/3 win with combos and also run stuff like Mana Crypt , Mana Vault etc.
The PW deck Dovin is somewhat OK but very overcosted. Personally I don't like Sunbond , Cradle of Vitality and Disenchant . For the last one I prefer Return to Dust , but you can run stuff like Vindicate , Anguished Unmaking or Utter End (those can upgrade the Mortify too).
Since you are running quite a few creatures Whip of Erebos would be nice synergy with lifegain and it also offers some form of reccursion, albeit one-time use.
Hope these suggestings are useful to you, mate. Cheers!
2 days ago
The main issue I'd be looking at here for this being a competitive listed modern deck is that it's strictly a bit too slow. Any other aggro deck out there, or combo for that matter should be able to eat this one for breakfast sadly. Modern is a pretty quick format these days with turn 3 wins very possible if left unchecked. I've thought of ways you could make this style of deck competitive, with most of them just being combo decks in the end (infiniteish creatures with impact tremors) but would still just be harder to accomplish combo decks in the eyes of storm and whatnot. With that said, I can think of a way to maybe make it a bit faster, but it would definitely mean changing the deck around. One of the main issues with this is getting purphoros out, as he is a 4 cost. That means at the best you're turn 4 playing him, which means not only a really late win-con, but also a 0 impact turn 4 play. Oftentimes your life is at stake at this turn. The one colour that could make this a bit faster is green. You could actually accomplish a green/red deck with the same goal. Using ramp guys, like Birds of Paradise , Elvish Mystic , Llanowar Elves etc, you could make it so that you could purphoros at turn 3 or so. On top of this, this could allow you to add in Collected Company and focus on some higher value red and/or green creatures that can fit within the parameters necessary. Just spewing out an idea anyway.
No matter what it only really matters if ya' like the deck you're playing, whether it is or isn't competitive. I hope some of what I say is a positive influence! Good luck!
2 days ago
Could you please provide specific examples for the cards and effects you're asking about? The various "sacrifice" and "flicker" effects available in the game don't all work in the same way, and the answer to your question really depends on which specific cards are involved in your situation.
Remember that putting double square brackets around a card's name will create a pop-up reference. It's the best way to make sure everyone understands what's going on in your question.
2 days ago
Shimmer/ Paradox Engine allows for mass, instant speed storm, at an insane ease. Yisan, while being better with Engine (untapping Yisan allows for fetching Llanowar Elves into Priest of Titania into Shimmer Myr into Temur Sabertooth or whatever, then keep untapping Yisan to go off until Great Oak Guardian then Sabertooth into infinite mana) still isn't an instant-speed spell, that is the issue. If the gamplan can be Swords to Plowshares ed at sorcery speed, the deck is doing something wrong.
If, just by playing lands, maybe a dork or some rocks, and passing, drawing cards, biding your time until the winning combo or impossibly difficult to win through lock hits the table, respond by casting everything you need to until you win.
This playstyle is Legacy Resetide ( Reset / High Tide with untap effects and a deck made up of Islands and instants, ready to storm until it casts a lethal Stroke of Genius on the opponent). I simply wanted to see if it was possible to accomplish a similar playstyle in Yeva.
You can't build Resetide in EDH because there isn't the consistency of running 7 Resets and 7 Tides (Legacy uses Cunning Wish as a playset for the 7 copies of every card in the deck it needs), nor can it even run enough instant speed draw and untap and ramp to pull it off without them, so mono-blue is out.
Zur can storm off at instant speed using Necropotence and Shimmer Myr , however doesn't have the luxury of doing it at anytime but on their own endstep, making it not a true-instant speed storm, as it can't do it in repsonse to an opponent winning on the opponent's turn.
Yeva, this list, can do it, only given a good hand and a lot of mana, but it can, with GoG and Cat. That was my interest in the deck. The issue was getting Cat, dorks that tapped for enough, and GoG, the mana to go off, and the interaction/protection to pull it all off.
Yeva was a long-shot, but if any deck could do it, Yeva seems like the one. The issue I found immediatly was wincon-lightness and tutor-lightness. The Cloudstone Curio , Paradox Engine wincons of the deck only go off at sorcery speed, so have big issues, however Shimmer Myr solves that, and allows for Walking Ballista , Candelabra of Tawnos (for Gaea's Cradle ), and more rocks to go off. The issue again is tutoring for that, then for the new combos. If this list had the tutor-density that a 3 color list like Zur would, it would work amazingly. As is, it just doesn't get there.
I am going to work further on this and try to get it to work, but Soren841 may be right that this is too difficult to accomplish.
Resetide may have friends in Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I may put some time into testing him out. That 5 mana cost is my biggest issue.
3 days ago
Also, what do I do if Temur Sabertooth gets exiled?
5 days ago
Hey, very good first Commander deck :)
Because of all the great Fetch lands you have consider a Breeding Pool ? Flooded Grove is another good ETB untapped Simic dual land. Hinterland Harbor works well with lot of basic Forests and Islands. Can cut Simic Guildgate, Thornwood Falls and Woodland Stream for these three better dual lands.
Other card upgrades to consider:
- Sakura-Tribe Elder > Civic Wayfinder
- Birds of Paradise > Whisperer of the Wilds
- Llanowar Elves > Heart Warden
- Scavenging Ooze > Crook of Condemnation
- Harrow > Peregrination
- Tempt with Discovery > Explosive Vegetation
- Crop Rotation > Rampant Growth
- Cultivate > Nissa's Pilgrimage
- Nissa, Vital Force > Garruk's Packleader
- Fierce Empath > Werebear
- Green Sun's Zenith > Animist's Awakening
- Sakura-Tribe Scout > Skyshroud Ranger
- Mystic Remora > Crush of Tentacles
- Horn of Greed > Zendikar's Roil
- World Shaper > Yavimaya Elder
- Eternal Witness > Sylvan Awakening
- Walk the Aeons > Part the Waterveil
- Genesis Wave > Zendikar Resurgent
More expensive cards to consider:
If you would like I offer more help. Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
I recommend another one drop creature; Expedition Envoy , Stoneforge Acolyte , Savannah Lions , Elvish Mystic , Llanowar Elves , Sunblade Elf , Something like these would work great in this deck, I also recommend some green or white removal to stay alive till you get wide. Mana Tithe , Rebuff the Wicked , Path to Exile And If you want to keep it at 20 lands, I recommend you add in some land ramp; Harvest Season , Traverse the Ulvenwald Besides that, it looks like a fun deck. And if you want to play it like that, it would probably do pretty good for a FNM, at least from the ones ive been too. And like I said there are more cards out there that accomplish the same things.
Llanowar Elves occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.99%
All decks: 0.4%
All decks: 0.23%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.16%
G/U (Simic): 1.19%
GW (Selesnya): 1.16%
RG (Gruul): 1.5%