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Tropical Island Discussion
2 days ago
4 days ago
The only real criticism I have is the low number of lands you are running for this kind of deck. Im not entirely sure Tatyova as a commander is the best choice for a control deck, but that decision is all on the deck builder. Perhaps with the Coralhelm/Meloku combo, you could add a Concordant Crossroads to end the game on the spot. I just happened to build my deck in a more "timmy" style so I cant give much advice on control/lockdown strategies. Cards like Tangle Wire, Mana Web, Opposition might interest you a little.
@bwanabeast5 Regarding the budget, this deck didn't actually cost me anything. I have a competitive gitrog monster deck that I was able to put on rest to make this deck. I already owned a Gaea's Cradle, and I managed to trade off resources to pick up a Tropical Island.
Regarding the "Effort" Part, that comes with any deck building process. Why wouldn't you want to play a deck that has good synergy, and play how you envisioned it? Group hug cards are great so I do run a few, but usually its a big no no giving your opponents the tools to end the game before you can. Believe it or not, my deck is actually NERF'd due to the cards im NOT running in it. If you notice there's no infinite combos, no instant win cards, no extra turns, no counterspells, just cards that work well with each other, and cards that are only as good as your opponents decks.
1 week ago
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2 weeks ago
Btw this is what you need to go infinite on turn two. There's actually a few different variants of what you can top deck on 2 turn that will get there but this is the easiest to explain.
Lion's Eye Diamond (used to cast Najeela after playing rest of hand)
Turn one that whole set comes down and Najeela attacks. 1 Counter on the DR, 1 Warrior token. Turn 2 top deck Temporal Mastery and play it for miracle cost Swing and get 3 total counters on DR, 2 extra warrior tokens (you now have 3+Najeela)
Extra turn: Swing with the team and get up to 7 DR counters, 7 warriors. Get WURBG from DR, get infinite attacks.
3 weeks ago
I basically consider Scryb Ranger a mana dork that in some cases even refunds you the mana you spent to cast it the turn it comes into play. On any turn you don't have an additional land drop, you can just bounce a Tropical Island or Taiga to your hand and replay it for what essentially counts as a free mana that turn. It's something that I found increasingly relevant as I slowly shaved away at my land count. If you have a mana dork out, then the Ranger helps to generate even more mana. And of course, it pairs very nicely with Bloom Tender and Kiki.
Random things I've used the Ranger for include: Flashing in and saving a Tropical Island from being Strip Mined, catching people off guard by pumping Animar up at instant speed, and providing a surprise blocker when a pumped up Zur with infect was swung at me. It's kind of surprising how often that Protection from Blue can come in handy, and people sometimes don't even notice the ability when reading the card.
But yes, there are situational aspects to how useful the card is. All I can say is that it has worked out pretty well for me. I guess I'd rate it in the same category as cards like Phantasmal Image. They are both cheap utility creatures that aren't essential to the deck and are somewhat situational in their power level, but they've pulled me out of tight spots on at least a semi-regular basis and have been beneficial to the deck in squeaking out extra mana that was needed while attempting to storm off.
3 weeks ago
I want to go over your land base, because in the deck, it seems the most improvable (is that a word, I mean most able to be improved upon if it isn't!)
You run 30 land, which is fine, but the lands you run seem a bit strange to me:
1x Ancient Ziggurat - All colors, untapped, only works for creatures, being useless for 18 cards.
1x Bloodstained Mire - Fetchland
1x Breeding Pool - Shockland
1x Cascade Bluffs - Filter, only works for two colors, not fetchable.
1x Cavern of Souls - Five color fixer, untapped, stops counters, and works for colorless on other creatures/spells.
1x City of Brass - Untapped five color fixer, not fetchable.
1x Command Tower - Untapped five color fixer, not fetchable.
1x Exotic Orchard - Untapped fixer for some colors, not reliable, not fetchable.
1x Flooded Grove - Fixer for only two colors, not fetchable.
2x Forest - Basic, fetchable, untapped.
1x Gaea's Cradle - Only one color, untapped, taps for commonly multiple mana, not fetchable.
1x Grove of the Burnwillows - Untapped two color fixer, not fetchable. Not filter.
3x Island - Basic, untapped, fetchable.
1x Karplusan Forest - Pain land, untapped two color fixer. Not fetchable.
1x Mana Confluence - Untapped five color fixer. Not fetchable.
1x Reflecting Pool - Not fetchable, and not always reliable, can be a five color fixer, untapped.
1x Scalding Tarn - Fetchland
1x Shivan Reef - Pain land, two color fixer, not fetchable.
1x Steam Vents - Shockland
1x Stomping Ground - Shockland
1x Taiga - OG Dual.
1x Thran Quarry - Not always reliable, five color fixer, untapped, not fetchable.
1x Tropical Island - OG Dual.
1x Volcanic Island - OG Dual.
1x Windswept Heath - Fetchland.
1x Wooded Foothills - Fetchland.
1x Yavimaya Coast - Two color fixer, painland, not fetchable.
I'll order these out below, and say which ones I like or don't and give reasons.
Breeding Pool - Shocklands are very good in conjunction with the fetches, so I am glad you run all of them, with the OG duals.
Forest (2x) - I'd drop one, more room for mana fixing, such as the fetches.
Cavern of Souls - Stopping counterspells and making your commander stick is worth it alone.
City of Brass - Any untapped, non-restricted, reliable five color mana fixer is godly.
Exotic Orchard - Not always reliable, it can be kept though.
Cascade Bluffs - I don't like this in the deck because it is your worst two colors.
Flooded Grove - I do actually like this one, green and blue are way more useful in this deck than red.
Grove of the Burnwillows - like a pain land, but reversed. I think it is worth a spot.
Karplusan Forest - Painland for some of your colors. It is fine.
Shivan Reef - I'd drop it, it isn't worth the fixing when it is your least useful colors.
In all, there are my drops, then I'll say what to run instead:
4 weeks ago
Hello! So I see you mentioned in your description that this is your first commander deck. It has a pretty solid base, so I will just give you some rules that I tend to follow when I build. At a baseline, I tend to run 10 sources of draw, 8-10 sources of ramp, and 5-10 pieces of spot removal.
Tatyova, as I understand it, is going to be the leader of a merfolk tribal deck. Merfolk tend to have a low converted mana cost, so Tatyova allows you to draw into more cards to continuously cast more and more merfolk. That being said, if you are running Tatyova, I would up your land count somewhat, up to at least 38 or 40. I would recommend a plethora of nonbasics like Botanical Sanctum Hinterland Harbor Breeding Pool Simic Growth Chamber Simic Guildgate Skyshroud Forest Temple of Mystery Thornwood Falls Tropical Island Woodland Stream Yavimaya Coast including as your budget allows. I included tropical island, an insanely expensive card, for the sake of brevity.
In terms of removal, I tend to include some counter spells in this category. You should pick up Counterspell Arcane Denial and Swan Song. Negate is very good also. For spot removal, you should consider things like Rapid Hybridization Krosan Grip Beast Within Nature's Claim and Curse of the Swine. I tend to try to get a board wipe or two as well, so look into Wash Out and Cyclonic Rift and River's Rebuke.
For draw, and additional land drops, I would run Rites of Flourishing Wayward Swordtooth Horn of Greed and possibly Helm of the Host for the commander. You want ways to hit more than your only land drop. Consider Dictate of Kruphix Brainstorm Preordain Ponder and Well of Ideas. For some tribal support and creature support, you have Vanquisher's Banner and Herald's Horn as you mentioned. I would look into Zendikar Resurgent as well.
For ramp, you pretty much want the classic green stuff, some of which you have, like Cultivate Kodama's Reach Rampant Growth Sakura-Tribe Elder Explosive Vegetation among others. These spells double as draw spells when Tatyova is out! So they are very great. I would steer away from Simic Signet and Darksteel Ingot forms of ramp because this deck should focus on lands, but they are by no means bad inclusions.
Things like Unsummon and Rescue are good for saving creatures you want to keep, but countering the spells which remove them, or giving them hexproof is an effective way to avoid removal. Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca is also enormously powerful in a deck like this. I don't see a Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots and those are staples. Consider investing in a Thought Vessel
In terms of general advice, I would up the creature count if possible.
I know I have given you an overwhelming amount of card suggestions, and don't break the bank getting the expensive ones. A lot of these cards are staples in commander if you don't have them and they will go an extremely long way to making your game play feel more consistent and effective. Let me know if you have any questions. Beating people to death with merfolk is a lot of fun. Speaking of islandwalk, consider Thada Adel, Acquisitor and something like Quicksilver Fountain to create islands.
1 month ago
I came here after looking at your lands deck. I love this deck, it looks pretty fun to play. I only have two questions. Why not run Jace, the Mind Sculptor? I saw a similar deck that played him, and he seemed like a pretty useful tool in the deck. Lastly I was looking at the land counts. I liked all of the lands that were there but I was wondering why 3 Taiga and only 2 Tropical Island and 2 Volcanic Island. Since you also play grove I wondered why not 1 Taiga and 3 of each of the other two?