Gain control of X target creatures and/or planeswalkers.
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|Ravnica Allegiance (RNA)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Mass Manipulation occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.06%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Mass Manipulation Discussion
1 day ago
Hey Riot Runner,
Because I also Already own Rhonas the Indomitable i will try to find a slot for him.
All theses recomdations are very good, thanks a lot.
2 days ago
You could cut some of the less exciting hydras such as Capricopian, and Feral Hydra. Capricopian ability is actually a downside if you are trying to kill the bothersome opponent. Feral is just wanting. Recommended Stonecoil Serpent or Voracious Hydra, or Steelbane Hydra.
Last few recs would be Demonic Consultation with Thassa's Oracle and Ertai's Meddling. Demonic is instant speed, card to hand. So, if everyone is tapped out it can be a hail mary (rather than a combo piece) for one of the infinite mana enchantments. Ertai's meddling is a great counter and it gets you a hydra.
1 month ago
Hey Osbert! Really great suggestions. Let me address each one on its own:
Mass Manipulation you are 100% right. After testing, it wasn't very great. I am looking for a replacement, but I am in need of some control and/or stealing commanders to ensure safety. That 1/1 or 2/2 (at best 3/3) hydra isn't worth the cost, I totally agree.
Split Decision you are right as well. I wanted a counterspell that was more versatile. realistically I wanted to counter other counters, and split decision did just that (with the added flexibility). But you are right, I think I will use Delay to be more straight forward.
Tasigur, the Golden Fang is very interesting. I will try it out and see how it flows.
In regards to Leyline of Anticipation and Seedborn Muse. Ive tried them and they feel a little clunky. In order for those cards to be more effective, more instants and "flash enablers" need to be included. Its about atleast 4-6 cards in order to make these 2 cards effective. And I I find it cuts into the ramp/counterspells/removal of the deck.
Blue Sun's Zenith I think will replace Mass Manipulation. Atleast until I can think of another control based X card.
I 100% agree with your card draw analysis. But I think the deck can be played in a couple different ways. I simply chose the more "kill everyone asap" approach vs. the sustained battle approach. Most of the card draws you've mentioned are on curve enchantments, but do require generation/sacing of creatures, which means we need the commander down first and cast many X spells to get. So its a tad slower. But in the event that the game goes longer, your suggestions are better suited.
In terms of the ramp you mentioned. I agree that if your heavy card draw, than those make WAYYY more sense. Just the way my deck is right now, I think its less valuable in its current iteration.
Thanks for the suggestions Osbert!! Do tell me if you find any more gems for Zaxara~!
2 months ago
If the control of a creature is changed while it is an attacker or blocker, it is removed from combat. So, if you use Mass Manipulation on some attacking creatures, they are no longer attacking you. Provided that they are untapped or you untap them, you can also block with them as long as you haven't declared blockers already. Important note, if you take a creature that was blocking your creatures, no damage will be dealt unless that attacker has trample.
As a side note, this is also true for multi-player games. If I attack someone other than you, and you take control of an attacking creature, that creature is still removed from combat (even if it wasn't attacking you).
Hope this helps!!
2 months ago
What happens if I have a Teferi, Time Raveler out and activate his +1 ability, then cast Mass Manipulation during my opponent's combat step to steal a creature that is attacking me? Is it removed from combat? Can I declare it as a blocker (if it had vigilance)?
(This interaction is pretty common for me on Arena, but I haven't tried it because I am worried it won't work)
2 months ago
3 months ago
I have a Saheeli X spell deck, but Zaxara really piqued my interest when I saw it. Everyone loves hyrdas, and getting board presence of big X spells feels great.
Astral Cornucopia will help your mana and give you a token - It's a steep cost but does fit the theme.
Mass Manipulation has been a powerhouse for me in Saheeli. I appreciate the might be harder for tri-colour, but Zaxara helps with that a lot.
Bloom Tender - If you are running Freed from the Real and Pemmin's, then he is a backup inclusion for the infinite mana route.
Chimeric Mass is a nice way to protect your creature based board from sorcery speed sweeps.
Dark Salvation works as smaller creature (depending on your mana) removal and generates you some additional tokens
3 months ago
Haha, no worries, I have that problem too. I've actually been trying to convince myself that I should have Mass Manipulation in this deck, and the card I've been thinking about cutting is Bringer of the Black Dawn. His ability is wicked, but I feel like I could go without it. I would, perhaps, be better to go with Maelstrom Archangel instead of either.
Now I still need a cut for including MM...