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|2012 Core Set||Mythic Rare|
|Rise of the Eldrazi||Mythic Rare|
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Planeswalker — Gideon
+2: During target opponent's next turn, creatures that player controls attack Gideon Jura if able.
-2: Destroy target tapped creature.
symbol:loyalty-minus0: Until end of turn, Gideon Jura becomes a 6/6 Human Soldier creature that's still a planeswalker. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to him this turn.
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Gideon Jura Discussion
3 days ago
You should be careful of having a narrow, 1 of, win con. What if your Reservoir gets Thoughtseized or countered or destroyed in some way. How do you win? I get that Elixir is here to mitigate this a bit but some other win conditions should be added so that you have backup plans.
3 days ago
I think Oath of Nissa should probably be a 4 of over Oath of Jace. I don't think there are cards I can see that you WANT in the graveyard so I'm not sure how good Oath of Jace is here instead of something like Serum Visions. Serum Visions also gives your deck something to do on turn 1 if you don't have a BoP. I get that Ghostly Prison is supposed to slow the opponent down but I think the deck either needs to muck up the board more with planewalkers like Nissa, Voice of Zendikar and more Ally Gideons or play some removal/sweepers mainboard like Supreme Verdict, Path to Exile, and Gideon Jura. Gideon Jura + Ghostly Prison is a great lock.
1 week ago
Chalice of Life Flip is a pretty meh card. If you want to gain 1 life per turn, there are far more efficient ways of doing so (Soul Warden and the like), and if you want to do damage by gaining life, there are more efficient ways of doing so (Ajani's Pridemate, Archangel of Thune and Serra Ascendant). I have used chalice once in a turbo fog deck... but that is a completely different deck.
But based on your description, some sort of control list might be what you are looking for. W/U Control is a pretty good deck. Most lists utilize a fair number of cards that gain life (Blessed Alliance, Sphinx's Revelation), although life gain is not a primary focus for the deck. Most W/U Control decks also use Celestial Colonnade as the primary win condition... and those are not cheap. Colonnades are good though as they are only creatures when you want them to be creatures -- which means you can play board wipes such as Day of Judgment and not lose your "creatures". I feel like this sort of style fits you needs best, so this leaves us with a few options.
Planeswalkers. Some planeswalkers are kind of pricey... others are not so bad. But planeswalkers synergize very well with board wipes as they are not creatures and it gives them "free turns" to tick up to their big abilities which can often, more or less, win the game by themselves. Some examples of good planeswalkers for this sort of deck are Gideon, Champion of Justice, Dovin Baan, Gideon Jura, Sorin, Grim Nemesis, and maybe Nissa Revane.Other ones are that are more expensive might be Ajani Vengeant, Koth of the Hammer, Mike expressed that he has had no urge to self-harm as of late. and Nahiri, the Harbinger.
Myth Realized. Is similar to a manland in that it is only a creature when you want it to be a creature, and can get scary big.
Alternately, if you are still keen on the idea of winning with Felidar Sovereign, there are a couple ways to help make sure you win. You could splash black and use Doomed Necromancer's ability to return your Felidar Sovereign back to play at the end of your opponent's turn once you are at 30+ life. This gives your opponent less time to be able to do something about the Felidar Sovereign as they have to be able to kill it with an instant -- or else you just win. Another option is to take a page out of the Emeria decks and run Emeria, The Sky Ruin. Play all the boardwipes, and do not care because once you hit 7 plains, all your creatures will start to come back.
Let me know what you think and I can start helping you carve out a deck list. Ultimately, you cant go terribly wrong with either of the establish archetypes, but brewing is not a bad thing either! As far as dealing with aggro decks, how fast are these decks winning? A normal aggro deck in modern will normally win turn 3 or 4. Although if you are playing against other budget decks, you likely have more time.
3 weeks ago
I expect I'm not the first person to say this but I want to make Commander decks for the Archenemy: Nicol Bolas set. I figure it would be a lot of fun and something nifty to have.
I will be wanting all decks in paper, as that's when they will be played. I will want them (semi)balanced, as in the Archenemy doesn't win every game but has a good chance.
I figure this also gives me an opportunity to add Gatewatch members that aren't playable in the box set. Ajani, Jace, and Liliana are all missing.
Doing this creates a Commander decision issue. Would I use the creature cards? If I did that, Ajani couldn't have a deck.
- Nicol Bolas
- Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip
- Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip
- Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
- Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh Flip
- Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip
There is also the possibility of using their namesake cards as the Commander. This would give it a better feeling of Planeswalkers battling as each would at least be in the Command Zone and would be much easier to cast each game.
- Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
- Gideon Jura
- Jace Beleren
- Liliana Vess
- Chandra Nalaar
- Nissa Revane
- Ajani Goldmane
Along the same line of using a Planeswalker as the Commander, I could just pick their best version to use that.
The question would then be, what to do for Nissa and Ajani? Would I use Mono Walkers, or their Multi colored cards for more variety. What supports this idea is that Nissa's Precon deck is .
I believe Ajani would probably be the better strategy, but fits thematically as that was the Walker released in the Ajani v. Bolas Duel Deck.
Anybody have thoughts, opinions, help to offer? Commander choices will be important, whether the decks have other Planeswalker cards in them matters, overall deck strategy for each character would help.
3 weeks ago
The closest you can get to having a permanent with all types is Mycosynth Lattice + Enchanted Evening + Gideon Jura + Life and Limb + Conspiracy. That's everything except tribal, which I think is impossible. And not counting Instant/Sorcery and card types from other formats like Conspiracy, Plane, and Scheme.
3 weeks ago
@Happymaster19: I like Big Gideon, and he's even better now that he contributes towards Gideon of the Trials and his emblem. The problem is, Elspeth is just so much better than Gideon that I'm including her for now. But, as I said in an earlier post, I haven't tested the deck very much because I'm currently in Germany visiting friends. My dad hasn't been around for the past month, and his computer has Cockatrice on it and he's the one who plays paper MTG, so I've played for about 10 hours total in the past coupla weeks.
Gideon Jura is definitely an option though.
4 weeks ago
@TheAnnihilator: I switched competitively from Esper to UW. I think that UW is just better positioned than Esper, and I'll still be playing Esper at FNMs and online. Jace is absolutely insane, he helps a lot with aggro matchups, and 2 Jace is standard in most builds. I usually play him to help me dig for an answer, but I haven't tested the deck very much because I'm currently in Germany visiting friends. My dad hasn't been around for the past month, and his computer has Cockatrice on it and he's the one who plays paper MTG, so I've played for about 10 hours total in the past coupla weeks. I'm currently testing another Cryptic in place of a land/TT, but I've really gotten used to 26 lands, and it helps the consistency of the deck.
@cplvela0811: I don't like Gideon because his ult is completely irrelevant (most of the time). Actually rethinking it, it could grow our PWs when we're swinging for the kill, but if I'm including a bid Gideon it'll be Gideon Jura.
Thanks to both of you, you guys have been instrumental to the development of this deck. (and cplvela0811, I finally included an Eslpeth in one of my builds LOL)