I'm going to do a bit of research on the variety of Dark Depths decks and frequency of use before I confirm this one, but I'm thinking it works as a hub. It was viable enough to get a card banned, but I never personally used it. Missed my chance.
June 27, 2019 12:33 a.m.
hejtmane It's got all-new flavor text, though.
June 26, 2019 7:52 p.m.
I know that these are developing archetypes, but aside from the "basic creatures" theme, there's not much overlap, and the signature cards in question are largely not going to be in the same deck. It's a good suggestion, and one worth revisiting in the future. Right now, though, it just feels to me a little bit too un-cohesive.
June 26, 2019 10:36 a.m.
I've been having a kind of similar idea, using Young Pyromancer instead of his more seasoned brother, giving you the Risen Reef effect for each instant and sorcery. I'm definitely still tinkering, but if you can manage the money, Manamorphose gets some pretty good mileage in. I want to know how this works out for you.
June 25, 2019 8:58 p.m.
You have mill stuff, you have steal-y stuff, you have reanimator-y stuff, seems like a good home for Geth, Lord of the Vault . It's a little on the expensive side, for both Mana and money, but might be worth the investment.
June 24, 2019 11:09 p.m.
TypicalTimmy I've been debating that. Right now, I'm leaning toward dropping it.
June 23, 2019 7:17 p.m.
DarkStarStorm Last month you offered to help where you could with hub maintenance. Do you have any thoughts here?
June 23, 2019 7:13 p.m.
I'm still watching this, and I'll get to posting my thoughts soon. With all respect to Boza and cdkime (and I have a lot of respect for these two, more than most people I only know from online forums), I believe multicolor sets have uniquely definable identities in the same way as single colors, and I put my thoughts about and a little bit of up top.
But here's a little bit more for three-color:
: nature and the environment (basically anything covered by meteorology, biology, hydrology, geology, etc.), dynamic and rapid change, and hands-on knowledge and discovery.
: psychopathy, inventiveness, and unpredictability.
: tradition, conservativism, and physical and spiritual resilience.
June 23, 2019 6:02 p.m.
Target opponent discards two cards. Exile two target lands you control.
Create a colorless spell that is not artifact, Eldrazi, or Ugin-y.
June 22, 2019 11:58 p.m.
Okay, I'll offer this. KongMing and Metroid_Hybrid: if you can provide several convincing examples of other users' decks on this site that would be appropriate for the Tutorless hub, with the approval of the deck creators, and offer a definition that describes what the deck does do instead of what it doesn't do, then I'll keep the hub as-is. Otherwise, it will unfortunately be too narrow and obscure. I think four days would be enough time to get something together. Is that a fair offer? It seems to be a primarily EDH hub, which is not my strong suit, so right now I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. But as many people are saying it's not valid as there are saying it is, so I have to make a choice.
I have to admit, it's an odd hub that's defined by what it doesn't do more than what it does do. The only other current hub that does that is Creatureless, and that one is reasonably well established (if often gimmicky), definable, and recognizable.
June 22, 2019 10:47 p.m.
I don't Commander a lot, but for
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Gilion, the Shimmerdancer
Legendary Creature - Spirit Wizard
Gilion, the Shimmerdancer has hexproof as long as it's not your turn.
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose a color and a basic land type.
Until the beginning of your next upkeep, all permanents and all spells are the chosen color, and all basic lands are the chosen type in addition to their other types.
I'm feeling both unoriginal and curious. Same challenge.
June 22, 2019 2:25 a.m.
DemonDragonJ There's a focus on flying creatures because they put one in. Each wedge set has a theme, and the theme is "flying matters."
June 22, 2019 1:48 a.m.
I'll try it, and see what sort of decks get added.
"a deck in the Commander/EDH format that specifically avoids using tutors to find combos or synergistic cards." Just combining the two suggestions.
June 21, 2019 10:58 p.m.
Sure, but what does it use instead of tutors? If that's the only description, pretty much every mono-red EDH deck (at least, that I know of--EDH isn't my strong suit) would fall under the hub.
June 21, 2019 10:43 p.m.
Can you please help with a description? It sounds like a mostly EDH hub, but I want to make sure.
"a deck, usually in the Commander format, that avoids using tutor cards in favor of more synergy cards."
Something like that?
June 21, 2019 9:58 p.m.
Sounds like this one has a couple of supporters. I'll add it and see how quickly it grows.
June 21, 2019 9:55 p.m.
I'm still considering the Two-Headed Giant hub. I have to admit, I'm undecided right now.
June 21, 2019 9:51 p.m.
Catching up on this thread:
Cho-Cathal-ic I'm still not sure "tapping" warrants a hub, though like I said, I'm willing to be convinced. Can you please provide a few examples from this site?
ThePerilousRealm Cat tribal has been pushed a lot in the last couple years. I'll add it.
tigermill "Lands: a deck that focuses on the Land type and its interactions with other cards." This would include landfall, 42 lands, and similar lines.
June 21, 2019 9:28 p.m.
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