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(X): Put X tower counters on Helix Pinnacle.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are 100 or more tower counters on Helix Pinnacle, you win the game.
Helix Pinnacle Discussion
1 week ago
unless you have a few infinite mana combos, don't add Helix Pinnacle .
1 week ago
If anyone sees this, how good would be putting a Helix Pinnacle in this deck?
2 weeks ago
(it's a bump. it doesn't matter anymore as nobody cares.)
Had to throw some Nihilist Crap in there. XP
Anyways, I still have either 19 (Current Status.), 20 (Adding Force of Will .), or 22 (Also adding Force of Negation & Force of Vigor .) cards to cut. bushido_man96, I might need some help on this. As stated many times before, we got Helix Pinnacle Wincon Discounts, Infinite Draw/, Always getting the best card before the player before you ends their turn via reassembling Deck order via Soothsaying ... We got a lot of stuff here. But which 19-22 to cut though? Can you think of some as I try to get to 100 cards for another of my decks please? Thanks, & sorry IF I'm acting like a nagging imbecile; I have so much crap to do...
2 weeks ago
BUMP! (& nothing else as I went too far not too long ago...)
@bushido_man96: Well, after those cards being added, I might as well officially start chopping cards until I get to the required 100. Crazy, as I'm adding another Force of Will in another deck as well.
This is going to sound stupid; as is every other time but what do you think doesn't pull its weight here? We're talking Infinite , Infinite Draw/Mill, Helix Pinnacle Wincon Discounts, among other crazed ideas. Which aren't so good though?
3 weeks ago
@bushido_man96: It's a funny thing, really. Most of my decks are technically Semi-Competitive, but since there's no such tag for decks, I'm forced to use the closest this site has; Much like how this site has no Chaos category, & my Yidris deck is just that. & a more unique approach to Chaos for that matter; IF this matters.
The reason I even mentioned Rashmi at all is to see if she's able to retrieve Exiled stuff in the first place. Her Abilities state otherwise, but even I don't get what the o'l Lab Maniacs state either. If you wanted a confession from me, after Feather, the Redeemed became the first ever Boros Commander to genuinely reach Tier 3, that at least gave me some encouraging; & as much mindless dogma in the form of ambition. Could there be another? Honestly, I don't want to go too far too early. I even stated on my userpage I don't even have a playgroup for reasons so few can completely state as "Understandable.". That out of the way, For Kruphix, I already have several ways for the use of X Mana; ranging from mass card draw, Helix Pinnacle Wincons, my question now, after at least the Mana Doubling stuff is out of the way, is actually a lot simpler to even answer; given I'm like Admiral Beckett Brass (Jeez, now I feel like making a damned Pirate Tribal deck even though Morophon Humans is the better idea regardless; thus I stand by w/ the latter.), such a simple question to what 7 cards to cut feels a lot like Hell indeed; which X-costs to cut? Which misc. to cut? I already am trying my limiting in the only other deck of mine still In-Active-Development; & it's not my Pauper Deck either. So... Many damned things in my head. I'm physically sitting down, but for your answer on how this deck can win? Milling an opponent(s) to death in numerous ways? Lab Maniac yourself to death? HUGE Discounts just for Helix Pinnacle , & even ways to manipulate already existing to infinity? Outside of my two kinds of questions for what to cut, we have Question "Trois"; how the bloody hell to protect A Primordial Mass of Theros Glop? He has Indestructible, but in this day in age, even if there's so few, Cards can be Destroyed as if they don't have Indestructible, & let's not forget the dreaded "Exile target/this (Permanent Type).". Two Questions for cuts, & a third for protection. I hope this oversized mass of datatic crap answered any question at all. (Most Likely not.)
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
Hey, saw your comment on my page so I thought I'd check some of your Oathbreaker decks out. This deck reminds me of a deck I had back during original Zendikar. This was before I got into commander, so all I played was casual 60 card decks. The deck was based around Gigantomancer of all things because my friend said it was a terrible card, so I set to prove him wrong. The idea of it was to use Gigantomancer 's ability to boost the power of my Viridian Joiner s and utilize untap shenanigans as well as other mana dorks to establish crazy mana bases. I would win by casting Gelatinous Genesis or maxing tower counters on Helix Pinnacle . Sure it was complete jank, but man those were the days!
Anyway! In regards to this deck, I really like it! One thing I would ask is if Blightsteel Colossus would be better substituted by Kozilek, Butcher of Truth ? I'm aware of how awesome the colossus is, but Kozilek acts as both removal & draw for your deck. Both inevitably win games so maybe it doesn't matter, but just an idea.
Either way, thanks for the trip down memory lane! +1 from me on the deck! Love it!
1 month ago
Modern Horizons added few cards worth looking at and testing. Currently looking to get a foil Hall of Heliod's Generosity , which is going to be an auto-include. Also excited for On Thin Ice . Always wanted to run Chained to the Rocks in the deck since its mana cost is so aggressive, but the extremely low Mountain count made it so unreliable it was not worth it. Hopefully the ability to run snow lands makes On Thin Ice much more playable. I wish Marit Lage's Slumber was easier to shove in the deck as a spicy wincon, but there are not enough non-basic snow permanents to bother.
That being said. It's time for my rebuttal.
First of all, I don't see how the way I've constructed my deck couldn't be described as "min-max". I've minimized the number of non-permanent spells and maximized the number of enchantments.
My mana-base has proven itself not to be a problem from the times I played. I don't remember a time where I was starved for any one color of mana before. Admittedly many of the lands enter tapped, but my meta isn't cut-throat where that's a problem. That being said, the manlands might get cut soon. They were a product of the meta at the time and weren't all that relevant.
Sandwurm Convergence was an include due to the abundance of dragon and Kaalia decks in my meta. The 5/5 is hard to attack into as well. You'd be surprised the amount of times being unable to be attacked by fliers has mattered. Mind's Dilation can be hit or miss. Ripping a land does suck. If Mind's Dilation hits removal, I can probably cast it on something, otherwise the board's probably looking pretty empty. Hitting a counterspell off of Mind's Dilation can be used to counter the spell that triggered it. As far as the hondens are concerned, the only one that's bad outright by itself is the white one . Players run cards like Phyrexian Arena and Bitterblossom for incremental advantage all the time.
As far as the counter-enchantments, it's just a part of the stipulation I've created for the deck. The alternative I could do for myself is just cut the counterspell themed enchantments altogether and focus more on resolved threats and other effects that interact with the opponent (i.e. Rule of Law and Spirit of the Labyrinth ). Admittedly, I've thought about cutting Sunken Field for Counterbalance .
"Generally, when Hive Mind is out, players tend to refrain from casting instants and sorceries because giving opponents an advantage is bad, and removal can be used against the caster. Occasionally players are willing to ignore those downsides and you will get free card advantage and removal. At it's worst, your opponents all naturalize you." That being said, the "all the removal will be used against you" becomes a non-issue if Sterling Grove and/or Privileged Position are out.
The wincon for the deck is overwhelmingly out-valuing the opponents with card advantage, then dumping mana into Helix Pinnacle . I have added Sigil of the Empty Throne and Opalescence as additional wincons, although Opalescence will likely get cut for something else. I've never liked that it and Starfield of Nyx turn the hard-to-remove enchantments into easy-to-remove creatures.
Helix Pinnacle occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%