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Time Warp Discussion
3 days ago
I think you are missing the crucial card draw. I don't see many cards that add you card advantage in the early game. Also, I feel a couple extra turn cards wouldn't hurt with the ramp you possess in this deck.
Brainstorm, Ponder, Harmonize, Night's Whisper are some real efficient draw. Temur Ascendancy is also a utility draw piece I add if the deck has the colours and could draw me atleast 3 cards through out the game.
Also Ring of Three Wishes is a very good card in proliferate decks
I personally have a problem running less than 8 mana rocks as Armageddon is very much a played card in commander. Worn Powerstone, Commander's Sphere, Hedron Archive, Darksteel Ingot and Palladium Myr are guys I run any chance I have (granted most of these aren't that competitive, just great ramp)
Signets are also great mana fix that ramp you also.
Sylvan Scrying lets you look for any land card in your deck which I think is powerful considering some of the land in magic
1 week ago
Let's get you some wincons, and fix that landbase.
First: Landbase. Basic stuff, manarocks, and better land cards, and a touch of fetchlands to get us rocking and rolling. Then, guess what, you're playing green. Congrats, you get the luxury of a vast array of tasty morsels called ramp spells, so we'll take advantage of that.
Next, let's look at capitalizing on your commander's strengths: Card draw. We'll add in card draw, and some hand size manipulation to help manage it, along with some ways to make use of all that mana you gain and cards you draw.
- Storm Sculptor + Tishana, Voice of Thunder
Now for some wincons:
-Devastation Tide +Goblin Cannon (with your upcoming infinite mana/card draw combos, draw into this, then ping everyone for infinite damage and win, the ability stacks as many times as you pay the mana for it, before sacrificing itself).
-Spelltwine. - River's Rebuke
-Ghostly Flicker +Aphetto Alchemist (equip bracers to alphetto, tap to untap it and target manarock or kydele for aother infinite mana combo, once you have infinite combos going, you can take multiple turns, draw out your whole deck with psychosis or lab maniac or tishana, or empyrial plate, etc)
Other infinite combos you can look for are Sword of the Paruns or Umbral Mantle equipped to kydele if she's drawn enough cards. The possibilities are vast, just a matter of finding yourself a bit of room for those cards, which shouldn't be too hard. However I'm also aware of budgets, I know I've suggested a LOT of changes, many that you might need to purchase, and while the individual cards aren't too pricey, collectively it's a lot once you look at all the changes. But if you're personally looking to take your deck to the next level, I'll add some more blingy suggestions at the end of this comment.
Last couple of swaps to make:
The bling: Staff of Domination (more kydele comboing)
other cards to consider would be a touch more cantrips and counterspells? Depends on local meta, how often you need to stop people from preventing your comboing off: Pact of Negation Muddle the Mixtures Brainstorm Mystical Tutor
1 week ago
Tunman, like SynergyBuild stated. I also, didn’t find Vanishing too beneficial in this case. It is an option for protection, if extra is needed for certain metas. Right now, for me, the flex Auras that can be swapped out for alternate spells are, Predator's Gambit, Indestructibility and Spirit Loop. So if this were to be used as a blueprint. Those spells are good as gone for other flavor spells.
jesusaintnodj, thanks for the +1! I’m glad you enjoy the build! SynergyBuild, did mention before that I should add an infinite combo. So by popular demand, I’ll do just that. I’ll add Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond . Also, I have been playing around with a couple prototype builds based on this. One that is the “Control Edition” and the other I have dubbed the “Time Walk Edition.” Time Walk Edition, includes Nexus of Fate, Time Warp, Temporal Mastery, Temporal Trespass, Karn's Temporal Sundering, Temporal Manipulation, Capture of Jingzhou and Walk the Aeons. Cards that I cut for those are, Predator's Gambit, Indestructibility, Spirit Loop, Gilded Lotus, Consecrated Sphinx, Hero of Iroas, Kor Spiritdancer and Sram, Senior Edificer.
1 week ago
This deck I feel would much rather not shuffle the whole graveyard into it's deck. Stream of Consciousness works out pretty well in that way.
Final point: Effects like Time Sieve have little application in this deck. Time Warp would be much better, as would most effects in that realm. Sacrificing 5 artifacts is almost back-breaking for this deck, and even with an Open the Vaults in hand, you's have wasted a turn using it, which defeats the whole purpose.
2 weeks ago
Here's a trolling idea, grab any 200 cards but don't play them, just keep them in hand. Next, find and play Battle of Wits, followed by Time Warp, and then Day's Undoing. Nothing says trolling like winning on turn 1 with battle of wits in a 60 card deck.
3 weeks ago
Rites of Flourishing is my issue, the other cards I listed were bad, yes, but were in response to you saying you run "every card that gives me more land drops that is <4 mana"
And yes, I play a competitive (Avg.s turn 3-4 wins not under heavy control) Tatyova list and it does me wonders in a Tier 1.5 playgroup. To be honest, the fastest list run here is General Tazri, and Stax doesn't exist here outside of one Chain Veil Teferi, but no Blood Pod, etc.
One question, how does Swell of Growth have summoning sickness?
Otherwise, I don't agree with many of your card choices, but that is me, I listed cards that would help, 48-52 lands I feel is normal for Tatyova lists, and I respect you landbase, and think the Terrain Generator is a good idea (I might steal that one for my deck!).
Some of my issues include your win condition, as a well-timed Abrupt Decay kills the Laboratory Maniac when a draw is on the stack, and no Pact of Negation/Foil will stop it. At least I'd suggest you run Autumn's Veil for that situation if you don't run Altar of the Brood/Oboro Breezecaller combo as a backup.
Otherwise, I like the list, minus a few inclusions. I have been debating Time Warp and similar effects being run, but lists I run them in don't seem too different than ones I don't, and I haven't built that in paper, so I don't know how well it will work in case of counterspells, etc.
4 weeks ago
No love for Time Warp apparently. Capture all the Jingzhous and manipulate all the time you want, but for the same price, I'd rather just do it again :<
4 weeks ago
a few things to note before I begin,
i just finished making this deck 100% competitive so im still new to cedh matchups as i dont have a lot of cEDH games except with a tymna/thrasios and blood pod, so there is still room for improvement of course. however, in regards to the point of arcane denial giving card advantage, it is true, but nekusar and wheels are forcefeed by nature, so although im trying to make nekusar as viable as possible he will never be tier 1 because of how many wheels are used
i think Luxury Suite would be a good replacement to tarpit, what would you recommend? cuz its a nice combo and all but tarpit doesnt have a lot of use outside whispering madness and 7 mana is quite steep
i find crucible to be super useful, as if i have multiple lands in my hand i can play one and wheel the rest to use in later turns, albiet not as good without Exploration effects, it has still been extremely useful for me. Temporal Mastery, Capture of Jingzhou and Time Warp, the latter which i recently cut out but remains a maybe, are pseudo-explorations as i get another untap, drae phase and land for turn. but if you really think its just a cute interaction, what would you replace it with for cedh?
i just feel vandalblast is too good, it can be a sorcery Smelt at its worst, and a 1 sided pseudoShatterstorm when overloaded. also, you actually overload it with flashback with snap/yawgwill or jace. its a board wipe that By Force would usually require a shitload of mana to match the amount of targets, and abrade is far from a board wipe, i would sooner add Evacuation as another creature wipe and/or Shattering Spree because although it needs red, each replicate has to be counterspelled individually, where by force would just get force of will'd, but i will keep your suggestions under consideration, thank you for your concern