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|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Uncommon|
|Battle Royale Box Set (BRB)||Uncommon|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Uncommon|
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1 day ago
+1 for Niv Mizzet!
1 day ago
+1 for grixis and chaos (I wish I could upvote it more!)
2 days ago
Geo963, what are the staple counters/black spells for cedh? this deck was originally casual and then turned into an investment and primer. and ive tuned it quite well, but i probably could trim for more staple cedh cards
i want to continue with testing my Chains of Mephistopheles + Anvil of Bogardan + Necropotence combo for a while, but it usually seems to be too much setup and chains can totally screw you when you cast it wrong, totally screws up the whole megrim/Waste Not+ Windfall + nekusar spike damage
im also debating running the best of the 2 mana Fork spells for wheels, but in cedh i think fork is mostly just cute
3 days ago
The list is great though. +1 from me.
5 days ago
I have seen it said before, but I want to question your win-condition as a deck under the "Competitive Hub".
Bruna, Light of Alabaster is a very good "pub-stomp" commander. I am sure you can understand why, it is really good at pumping out damage once you deck has the ramp and enchantments to pull it off. Good card draw or tutoring allows you to pump it up with 2-3 enchantents that get it to one-shot opponents. That wins in three turns!
I think I should break that down just a bit. You need 2-3 cards additional to the commander, and for the sake of arguement, I will say 2. Battle Mastery + Corrupted Conscience for example, given you only have a few other 2 card "combos" with you commander, this one is the cheapest. All together it would cost mana, but your commander really makes that mana and a combat step uninterrupted. Honestly, winning with 2 cards additional to the commander that costs 6 mana outside of green isn't great, but given you can tutor them up well, which you can to some extent as the cards you need are aura enchantments and you are in white.
Truely, this is wrong though. Intuition and Three Dreams are one-card combos with your commander, sadly your commander can't cheat their costs, so if we take Intuition with Bruna, Light of Alabaster, it costs 9 mana, and it one-shots a player per turn.
Per turn is the issue though. A 3 turn win (killing one opponents a turn) leads to 6 turns your opponents have to answer an unprotected body (no hexproof nor any indestructible type effects). 6 turns is forever in cEDH, and since you run so much of your deck as useless enchantments (outside of combat win), it is simply not likely you can counter everything your opponents through at you.
This is why I question your win-condition.
The thing is, a control deck isn't just trying to win. It needs an absurd amount of card draw and cheap answers to stop every attempt at dropping a stax lock or combo finisher. Every Dark Confidant, Trinisphere, and Food Chain needs a Swords to Plowshares, Chain of Vapor, and Swan Song respectively. You don't have the luxury of running just 20 answers for the 20 threats in each opponents deck, you need 60 answers for the 20 threats in each of 3 of your opponents deck. 60 cards that are simply answers won't do the trick either, you are drawing one card a turn, your opponents (collectively) draw 3 a turn. EDH is a game that every player is at a statistical disadvantage.
So run multple answers in each card Grasp of Fate all the Dark Confidant, Trinisphere, and Food Chain all at once. Windfall a new hand of answers, Timetwister back your answers, and draw a new hand. Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain, Opt, Impulse, Serum Visions and cantrip your way to the right answers for the situation at hand.
You actually have what I would normally say is the next point, prematurely answering threats. Armageddon can wipe a hand out of the game, if your opponents can's cast the cards in their hands, they might as well not have it. Cataclysm is similar, for obvious reasons, and so is Ravages of War, a card I would greatly recommend.
To get more value out of these effects, you need another tutor like Personal Tutor is a great way to find a land-swipe effect, I also suggest better card draw like Timetwister, Time Spiral, Manifold Insights, Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, etc.
Cheap answers like Chain of Vapor, Fragmentize, Mental Misstep, Delay, Mindbreak Trap, Rapid Hybridization, Pongify, Into the Roil, Blink of an Eye, Grafdigger's Cage, and other such answers are the best thing to have a ton of. They are blowouts early-game, useful tempo boosts mid-game, and still relevent late game. Being able to have a card for every threat means spending more cards on ramping is unrealistic at best, but running a deck very low to the ground is incredibly useful, pretty much every cEDH control deck is either stax-hybrid control, or straight 1-2 mana answers, some sweepers, and 1-3 mana card draw.
To end all of this, I would recommend greatly changing this deck, or dropping the "Competitive" tag, it is misleading as-is.
I also want you to know, QKNARWHAL, that I mean no disrespect to you or your deck-building capabilities, I do not think that this deck is a bad deck, simply not competitive. A previous user, Podkomorka had showed similar thoughts to mine, yet did not explain them. Podkomorka also was not mentioned or responded to in further posts, which I hope will not be done to myself.
Thanks for reading! - SynergyBuild (I'll toss you an upvote on the way out)
5 days ago
It depends on how you want to build the deck, but the good cheap cards I was looking at for Muldrotha were creatures and enchantments that have good sacrifice abilities, and spells that let you draw and discard (since discarding isn't that bad when you can play the cards from your graveyard with your commander).
So cards like Breakthrough, Windfall, Kagemaro's Clutch, Seal of Doom, Seal of Primordium, Sinister Concoction, Courier's Capsule, Executioner's Capsule, Mind Stone, Alchemist's Apprentice, Caustic Caterpillar, Fleshbag Marauder, and Merciless Executioner.
5 days ago
For a deck with 3.1 cmc, you are running too few lands, with only two sources of ramp. 35-36 is better for control, less if you have more ramp. Because ramp is not available in your colors, mana rocks have to be used. Thought Vessel (although expensive), Darksteel Ingot, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress, Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, Marble Diamond, Sky Diamond, Charcoal Diamond, Coldsteel Heart, Fellwar Stone, Commander's Sphere, Cultivator's Caravan. You should at least add the other signets and then think about some of the others mentioned. Because you're in blue, black, and white, you have access to single target removal spells like Pongify, Oblivion Ring, Murder, Mortify, Go for the Throat. The other upside of being in these colors is the access to good draw. While altar's reap and catalog are good, getting rid of your stuff and discarding cards only hurts you, especially with better options. Windfall, Blue Sun's Zenith, Divination, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood. Instead of essence scatter and negate, there are better counterspells that cost 2 mana, if that is what you're looking for; Counterspell and Arcane Denial. Both are not as restrictive, and in the case of arcane denial, giving your opponent cards typically doesn't matter as long as they've been disrupted. Also a 25 cent card that should be added to every list running black is Diabolic Tutor. Despite chromium's built-in protection, you should still run cards like Lightning Greaves, Swiftfoot Boots, Mask of Avacyn, or Whispersilk Cloak.
6 days ago
Hey Enticer, the input is greatly appreciated! Though, I'm not sure how I'd splash blue into the deck without breaking the bank (or the deck itself)
Do you have any ideas on making the deck more durable/faster against aggro/zoo/lifegain? My local meta adores Soul Sisters and Jund.