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Each player discards his or her hand, then draws cards equal to the greatest number a player discarded this way.
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2 hours ago
crstisalie, re: Chains. I mostly think I don't want a chains/spirit/draw hoser in the deck anymore. The play of turn 1 Chains of Mephistopheles, turn 2 Windfall, turn 3 Zur, turn 4 Necropotence doesn't happen very often. But, more importantly, discarding is something this deck doesn't want to do. There's only 2 win cons in the whole deck so if you happen to discard one it's strategically really limiting. There's also just Timetwister to get it back, so you're not really replaying stuff out of the yard. Which, of course, is by design, since you're frequently putting Rest in Peace in play, and the ability to play around that is one of the deck's great strengths. So, in some ways, Spirit of the Labyrinth is just better than chains, since it doesn't make us discard stuff. (And also, it's far superior vs. Gitrog.) But, mostly the only early card draw I see is Sylvan Library and Tymna the Weaver. So I question if it's worth running a spirit at all; especially since a wrath tends to be better against tymna decks and green-based decks in general. It feels real bad to land a spirit of the labyrinth and then draw Rhystic Study or Mystic Remora, which are (obviously) powerhouse cards. I mean, it's still good to land the spirit if you're opponents are on a draw where they have turn-2 sylvan library or are tymna/thrasios decks.
Anyway, all that said, Anvil of Bogardan was never in consideration.
To go back to an earlier point, re: Solemnity. This card just doesn't do anything. Unless you're playing against Animar, Soul of Elements every game. Solemnity does combo with Phyrexian Unlife, but, also, that's mostly just a worse way to build your own Solitary Confinement. I think just run the one solitary confinement and don't bother with solemnity + unlife. Phyrexian Unlife is very good in Zur combo decks that revolve around Ad Nauseam, but I don't think it does enough here.
Remember a big benefit of this deck is there's only 2 dead win-con cards in the whole list. Everything else is mana, gas, or permission. :)
1 day ago
This isn't really a storm deck. It's a quasi-storm combo deck that relies on creature swarm for a win-condition. If you want to go full on storm you definitely need cards like Aetherflux Reservoir, Mind's Desire, and Ignite Memories. Those are all excellent storm win conditions.
If you're trying to do storm, you need to go all in. Otherwise, if you're doing a true combo-deck, drop the storm aspects to make it more focused.
3 days ago
Academy Ruins Desert of the Fervent Desert of the Mindful Forgotten Cave Lonely Sandbar Remote Isle Shivan Reef Smoldering Crater Wandering Fumarole Crush of Tentacles Windfall Dig Through Time Psychic Spiral Chandra, Flamecaller Labratory Maniac
3 days ago
I tested Memory Jar for a bit at first but honestly it feels incredibly slow. At CMC 5 it severely limited what else I was able to play in the same turn, which essentially pushes the storm turn back by 1. While having a free wheel effect the following turn is nice, as well as the potential for instant speed hand disruption (cracking in response to a tutor, for instance) it just feels like it's a lot of investment up front, and the payoff isn't quick enough. I think you could definitely run it and have success with it, it just won't be as effective as things like Wheel of Fortune. If you're looking for a budget wheel effect, Windfall is your best bet.
In terms of comparison to other decks, I don't believe we're quite on the same level as things like Chain Veil Teferi, Blood Pod, or the best Hulk decks, though we can definitely compete with them. We're a bit low on control in the storm version of the deck (though I know some people are working on a stax build of Jhoira), so it usually gets used to protect ourselves more than anything. That doesn't mean we don't have tools to deal with other top decks (Grafdigger's Cage shuts down Hulk lines, Pithing Needle turns off Teferi, etc.) but those hate pieces are more accidental than anything else, since the primary game plan is always to storm, ideally with protection.
We also have a surprising amount of resilience, at least to direct removal. Due to the volume of mana rocks in the deck, even if Jhoira gets removed it's not the end of the world to have to recast her. However, because we're so reliant on having her in play, repeatedly facing spot removal does add up. Additionally, we're extremely weak to Stony Silence, Null Rod, Eidolon of Rhetoric, and Damping Sphere. If one of these lands, we pretty much can't win until it goes away, and our tools for making that happen are limited. Artifact removal, both targeted and mass, can be really problematic as well. For the colors we're in, however, it does feel like we have a good amount of resilience.
3 days ago
5 days ago
Your manabase is truly awful.
- You have too many lands that ETB tapped.
- You manabase color consistency is spotty at best.
- You have too many utility lands that don't provide colored mana (this is likely the root cause for #2).
- You are missing some key artifact ramp/color fixing.
- You are running some very questionable choices: Examples: Crypt of Agadeem you only have 7 black creatures total (not counting commander) Save this for a mono-black deck & Glacial Chasm my guess is you are using this to hold off attacks until you can combo off. The issue is this card combos best with Solemnity, but you can't run white.
- 1,2,3: Drop a bunch of the ETB lands and utility lands bring in Fetchlands and Duals (OG Duals, Shocklands (Ravnica blocks), Tango Lands(Battle for Zendikar) and Bi-cycle lands (Amonkett)). Choose what works for your budget.
- 4. Add Chromatic Lantern it will help with color fixing, stops Blood Moon attacks and makes non-mana producing lands into mana producing lands. I would also suggest Mana Vault and Voltaic Key. These will help you mana ramp and keep pace with Ramp decks which have access to green mana. Also missing is Crucible of Worlds. It help you recover from mass land destruction and ensure you hit your land drops if you are running fetchlands. Other artifacts to consider are: Mox Opal, Chrome Mox, Grim Monolith, Rakdos Signet, Dimir Signet, Izzet Signet, Lion's Eye Diamond Again, choose what works for your budget.
- 5. Remove your questionable choices and run Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers instead. Urborg will make all your lands swamps, which will solve any black mana issues and make all non-mana lands into mana producing lands. And it combos amazingly with Cabal Coffers. It is way better than the Crypt of Agadeem. I also suggest running Maze of Ith instead of Mystifying Maze. Maze of Ith doesn't cost mana to activate and will deter attacks or at least nullify their best non-shroud, non-hexproof creature. Mystifying Maze will just encourage certain attacks since it can trigger ETB effects for your opponents. Which can be more valuable then shrinking your life total.
Other Issues and Potential Fixes:
- Graveyard Hate/Enchantment Removal. You added Pithing Needle to deal with certain artifacts but have ignored enchantment based graveyard hate. And I don't see any real enchantment removal. The only card that could hit an enchantment seems to be Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker. Leyline of the Void, Rest in Peace, and Ashes of the Abhorrent just straight up ruin your day. Grixis is weak to this permanent type, but blue has your best answers. I would add Cyclonic Rift which is the best 1 sided boardwipe in EDH and will help you recover from an oppressive board state or seal your position as the Victor. I would also suggest adding Venser, Shaper Savant. He can delay a spell from hitting the table or bounce back a troublesome permanent. He combos well with Riptide Laboratory.
- Troublesome Lands. I don't see any way for you to deal with lands that could ruin your day. Opponents running huge mana lands like Gaea's Cradle, Serra's Sanctum or Cabal Coffers or other trouble some lands like Scavenger Grounds. You have nothing for targeted removal of these threats Look to Strip Mine or Wasteland or similar lands.
- Missing Combo Pieces. Teferi's Veil combos with Sedris, just be mindful of the leaves battlefield clause from Sedris as they are still the same permanent still when they phase back in. And both Sneak Attack and Whip of Erebos combo with it and have high synergy with your deck. (same leaves battlefield clause applies to the whipped creatures) Also think about running Embalmer's Tools
- Quality Creatures. A lot of your creatures don't make sense or are just low on value. I would look back towards your original thought about ETB based creatures for the majority of your creatures to abuse. Combustible GearhulkNoxious Gearhulk,Molten Primordial,Sepulchral Primordial,Trinket Mage,Trophy Mage,Sidisi, Undead Vizier,Zealous Conscripts,Massacre Wurm,Sphinx of Uthuun. And then a few other key enabler creatures like: Deadeye Navigator which helps remove the leaves clause from creatures you cheated back from the graveyard and River Kelpie which will help you draw
- Better Tutors. You should be running better tutors in general and better tutors for your graveyard. Like: Entomb,Buried Alive,Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Final Parting, Dark Petition, Merchant Scroll, Mystical Tutor, Fabricate, Personal Tutor
- Better Looting/Rummaging. Like: Faithless Looting,Frantic Search,Dack Fayden,Windfall,Ancient Excavation,Cathartic Reunion, Careful Study
- Better Counterspells. Like: Mana Drain,Force of Will,Disallow,Forbid
- Cantrips. Getting to your best cards is key to being able to play your game. Brainstorm, Ponder,Preordain,Thought Scour
- Recursion. Some options open to you are: Snapcaster Mage, Yawgmoth's Will, Time Spiral, Past in Flames, Mizzix's Mastery,Magus of the Will, Crucible of Worlds
6 days ago
Read the second half of Wheel and Deal's text. Your opponents discard their hands, true - but then they get to draw back up to seven. You're getting marginal benefit and very likely giving your opponents free card advantage. If I'm your opponent and you've been making me discard all game, I will be very happy when you play a card that lets me discard the few remaining cards in my hand and draw back up to seven.
Now, it's true that Wheel effects are very good with Liliana's Caress, Geth's Grimoire, and Waste Not, but if you never draw one of those three cards (or if an opponent destroys them), the Wheel effects become marginal to outright bad. (That said, if you want to double down on such things, Megrim should probably be in this deck too.)
And if all you want to do is fill their graveyard so that you can exploit what's in there with Reanimate and Lazav, Dimir Mastermind and the like, you're better off running mill cards (e.g., Keening Stone) over Wheel effects.
As for your second question, Damia herself is the main reason to discard your own cards. Necrogen Mists and Bottomless Pit empty your hand faster so that you draw more cards with Damia's ability. These cards hurt everyone equally, but only you are playing a creature who can jump out of the command zone and let you refuel in one fell swoop. Part of the benefit of the discard theme is limiting your opponents' options. If you're refilling up to seven cards with Damia every round while your opponents are trying to make things work with only one or two cards in hand, then Mists and Pit aren't really hurting you. Plus, you have Archfiend of Ifnir, which I assume that you added because you wanted to benefit from self-discarding.