As an additional cost to play Natural Order, sacrifice a green creature.
Search your library for a green creature card and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Natural Order occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
Natural Order Discussion
4 days ago
I would try and improve the pod chain from 2-6. I don't see too many creatures that you would like to pod into and pod away. I would also suggest some more land ramp. To reach both of these goals I would personally add some of these cards: Wood Elves Yavimaya Dryad Eternal Witness Karmic Guide Reclamation Sage Knight of Autumn Restoration Angel Felidar Guardian Eerie Interlude (To protect from Board Wipes, while also getting ETB triggers again) Ghostway (Same as Eerie Interlude) Kodama's Reach Cavalier of Thorns Vexing Shusher Selvala, Heart of the Wilds Natural Order Nature's Lore Green Sun's Zenith
2 weeks ago
Check mine out if you dont mind: Rhys and the Selesnya Army (Assistance Welcome)
As for some of your possible cards:
How is your land base typically? Do you have mana issues only running 32 lands? I know you are running a ton of elves but I tend to get mana screwed if I go this low.
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Gaea's Cradle is great. I think Natural Order is good because you can use it to get Craterhoof Behemoth. Heritage Druid helps with ramp. Green Sun's Zenith can be used to get Dryad Arbor for one mana which is pretty powerful.
1 month ago
It is your call, just any card that seems to be under performing or just doesnt synergize well. Im usually not a fan of Defense of the Heart just because it a very slow tutor, cause even if you meet the requirements when you play it you still got to wait a whole turn and that can easily get destroyed by single target removal or boardwipe. Gift of Doom also seems a bit meh to me but that's just because I don't see indestructible being that strong. It is your call at the end cause you been playing and testing this deck out so if both these cards turned out to be really powerful and synergize well then keep em.
BTW if ya need more tutors Natural Order and Tooth and Nail are pretty amazing green creature tutors. Also if ya dont mind sacing your stuff Diabolic Intent is pretty much demonic tutor but you got to sac something first.
1 month ago
The Sidisi pile seems a little convoluted for my tastes, but if it works for your playstyle, go for it. I don't think that Phyrexian Tower will increase your consistency all that much, but it certainly wouldn't hurt. If you don't have a spare, I would wait to get one. You might not like that line and decide to go a different route.
This is the really nice thing about Tasigur, though. You can take the deck in just about any direction, and Sultai has a lot of great game-ending combos.
Pattern of Rebirth is a workable card, but I prefer Natural Order. Order is more restrictive, but it doesn't require as much setup. If you want to go the Hulk route, Order is a good way to get Hulk out.
As for your Emergent Ultimatum question, my first pile does work, but there are a few more steps involved that I didn't go over. If you get to keep oracle, you stack the cast so that Consultation/Pact resolve first. You exile your library and win if Oracle hits the field. If you don't keep Oracle, you resolve Pact first to find Oracle. You then resolve Consultation and exile your library. You then play Oracle. As you might have picked up, both of these require that your opponents don't counter the Oracle.
1 month ago
You definitely need more big mana sinks to abuse the infinite mana. You have some cards like that like Helix Pinnacle and Walking Ballista but you could stand to abuse cards like Staff of Domination and Thrasios, Triton Hero to draw your deck at instant speed and win with Thassa's Oracle with countermagic backup at the ready. Cards that have a similar "I Win" the game effect as a result of having no Library : Laboratory Maniac and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries are cards to consider.
If thats the route you want to take Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal combo can go infinite with colorless mana unless you have a colored mana rock or mana dork at the ready. It also helps win at instant speed or at worse cast a number of big spells in a turn.
Another infinite combo to consider would be Grim Monolith + Power Artifact. But since this isnt an artifact based deck Power Artifact would be a dead draw. A more fitting card to combo with would be Nyxbloom Ancient. It can go infinite with Grim Monolith or Basalt Monolith.
These combos are cool and all but unless you have a big X spell like Blue Sun's Zenith or Stroke of Genius to have players draw their deck, you will need your fair share of tutors. The list currently has alot of the major ones but one I would include would be Natural Order in the place of Tooth and Nail . If you are going to run some amount of expensive green fatties like for example, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger its better to cheat it out of the deck than expend more resources over the course of turns to cast them naturally.
Aside from counters, I am not seeing much in the way of disruption in your creature base. Cards like the aforementioned Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger or similar creatures with back breaking effects could see some consideration in the top end of the deck.
I would also recommend some more recursion spells. Cards like Gaea's Blessing and Memory's Journey can bring back combo pieces you otherwise lost into the deck. Eternal Witness is the all-star of the category but Regrowth like effects should have some slots in the deck if you plan to go all in on combo.
Some cards I feel could be cut from the deck could be Birthing Pod and Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath. Pod cares alot about the CMC of your deck and as it stands its very lopsided. As for Uro, I feel he will be under utilized in this list. As a 6/6 for 3 with those abilities it is amazing, however, exiling cards and potential combo pieces wouldn't be in your best interest if you plan to win with noncombat shenanigans . Uro would just be a 3 mana explore with upside and that might not be enough for what you are trying to do here.
I am probably missing some cards that are not coming to mind at the moment. I'll comment again with other cards once they come to mind.
1 month ago
Hi pao2 i am using your list as a guidance on what to run on my semi-cedh Hulkweaver (used to be Karador testing Nethroi currently),so i have 2 suggestion and 2 questions if i may.
Wake the Dead. Since you run Apprentice Necromancer why not run his instant brother?
Altar of Dementia. A 2 mana fill the graveyard and can win with both combos.
1.Why not Carrion Feeder,Phyrexian Delver for the redundancy.
2.Is Natural Order that bad? it feels like its exactly the same cost/ability as Pattern of Rebirth and i am honestly thinking or replacing birthing pod to it. Pod will tutor my pieces but at the same mana with a sac outlet on the field i win the game.
i would be honored in case you wanted to check my deck: Nethroi Hulkweaver