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As an additional cost to play Natural Order, sacrifice a green creature.
Search your library for a green creature card and put it into play. Then shuffle your library.
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Natural Order Discussion
1 day ago
2 days ago
I am still playing Asceticism as I am NEVER upset to see that card in my hand. There is just too much spot removal in my meta to cut it.
What can I cut to get Traverse the Outlands into the deck? I know Song of the Dryads has been mentioned. That is our only way to deal with problematic permanents so I am not comfortable cutting it. Would Natural Order be a possibility? Do you have any other recommendations?
3 days ago
MrFertilid Thank you for your suggestions! I realized after reading your comments that 99% of the time when I play Marath, Will of the Wild I don't use his ability to move counters. Normally I fire damage at creatures or players and make 1/1 tokens. I need to think outside the box more.
I love your suggestion of Archangel of Thune and Spike Weaver. I'm so glad the former is getting a reprint so that I can hopefully afford one. I have a Ghave, Guru of Spores deck I have been tweaking which has a focus on going wide with tokens so I know it'll find a home! I will definitely make use of Illusionist's Bracers too!
I think I will hold off on the Shinewend and Stingmoggie only because I want the creature to have an ETB effect for use with my tutor cards like Green Sun's Zenith, Natural Order, Eldritch Evolution, and Chord of Calling. A lot of my stuff dies as soon as it comes down so I need to get some value off an ETB. Thank you so much for looking at my deck and making suggestions.
I will check out some of your decks, cheers!
5 days ago
I will add that I know all too well personally the hate the praetors can draw, such as when I either cast something like Natural Order and proceed in finding Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger or just hard casting him.
Then Feldon of the Third Path doesnt interest me enough as I prefer reanimating things in or colours, all the while in the case of Athreos, God of Passage playing a bunch of board wipes and having benefits like Grave Pact for my things dying off.
Im actually considering swapping to a Meren of Clan Nel Toth over Athreos, God of Passage and then also putting together a Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Deck in its place out of the remains of the life gain themes I had, but im still not quite sure on this as vampires also has some life gain/drain already.
Anyways if you need help with a decklist just let me know!
5 days ago
Hi again miracle! And thanks that you still here :)
I am grateful for your interest to my deck and your explanations and opinion.
I have no doubt about your knowledge in mono green decks. All the cards you suggested are great and I am very familiar with them. All that I wanted to say is that some of them is not so good in this deck, and some "not so good" and even weak cards are shine here especily having Rhonas as commander.
Pathbreaker Ibex - he won me many games, he actualy can kill at least one player in one attack having Rhonas by his side. All I am saying is based on my experience playing with this creature. Comparing him with Blightsteel Colossus Colossus has its weaknesses in this build, starting from super high cmc and the fact that it cant be cheated by Norwood Priestess and Natural Order. Triumph of the Hordes was in the deck for a couple of tests. But I'm allergic to "infect" mechanic and trying to win with pure combat damage. But anyway, Your explanations and reasons convinced me to change Pathbreaker Ibex and test something else (maybe Recycle?).
Sorry but I just cant cut Traverse the Outlands this card is super powerful in this deck, You dont need some other creature that makes Travers effective cuz you already have Rhonas (turn 2 usualy online), see this deck with this commander plays a bit different from some other green decks. And Travers can be disrupted, yes (actualy as any spell, and Mana Reflection in particular), considering all enchantment and artifact hate in EDH and super hate Mana Reflection causes it is target number one when it on the table. So, I would prefer having both Traverse the Outlands and Mana Reflection in the deck. I will definitely test Mana Reflection thanks for this suggestion.
Exploration is a good card, but not here, belive me, I tested it a lot, and almost always was desapointed.
Thanks again for all your advices and help!
1 week ago
Awesome Hapatra deck! The only thing that doesn't make sense here is Aetherworks Marvel. With no other means of creating energy, its potential use seems extremely situational and therefore unworthy of inclusion. Natural Order, which I see is in your sideboard, makes way more sense in the slot. Still a 4-drop, and turning a snake token into something much more badass is always a good play.
I also suggest Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. He's sneakily good with Hapatra. With all the -1/-1 counters you'll be putting on creatures, more often than not your creatures will meet his condition each time they die.
2 weeks ago
I'm not going to inundate you with a list of all tutors, I'm just going to pick what I feel are the best ones in green and white:
Creature tutors in no particular order:
Green Sun's Zenith is perfect because it's any green creature in your deck for only one extra mana. This can be Mirri, Qasali Pridemage, or even just a Dryad Arbor to ramp if you need it.
Eladamri's Call. Instant speed, unconditional (not restricted to finding a green creature, I mean), and puts it straight into hand. Very solid.
Worldly Tutor. Card disadvantage, but it finds any color of creature for only one mana at instant speed.
Chord of Calling is one of the best tutors green has to offer. Instant speed surprise factor is never to be discounted considering it's any creature in your library at any time as if they all had flash (assuming you have the mana/creatures to cast it). Instant speed Alms Collector when someone casts a Prime Speaker Zegana or something is huge.
Birthing Pod is a great, consistent way to find your way up through the ranks to specific cards. Cards like Solemn Simulacrum are great to sacrifice, while cards like Reveillark, Karmic Guide, etc., can turn the sacrifice into a positive card advantage (rather than neutral) every time.
Survival of the Fittest is expensive for a reason. Easily one of the most broken tutor enablers in the format, especially in white/black when you can discard a high cost creature you can't cast yet, go get Karmic Guide/Reveillark or really any recursive tool. Fauna Shaman is the poor man's version and still works really well.
Recruiter of the Guard finds 10 out of 26 creatures in your list. Whether that's worth it or not is up to you.
Steelshaper's Gift, Stoneforge Mystic, Enlightened Tutor, Open the Armory. I find these to be the best of them, though Relic Seeker is probably the cheapest one you're not currently running. Stonehewer Giant is repeatable, which may be something you'll like (I dropped Taj-Nar Swordsmith but kept Stonehewer in my Kemba deck because one is a heavily-mana intensive ability but is also a one-shot effect).