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|Planechase Anthology (PCA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Heroes vs. Monsters (DDL)||Uncommon|
|Planechase 2012 Edition (PC2)||Uncommon|
|New Phyrexia (NPH)||Uncommon|
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Destroy target permanent. Its controller creates a 3/3 green Beast creature token.
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Beast Within Discussion
3 days ago
4 days ago
Remove the scry land and get horizons canopy, put some more recursion in here... like Noxious Revival type cards. Removal in the deck needs to be better streamlined.... like get rid of return to dust...just put in Nature's Claim. You should also be running literally the best removal in the game in green color.. Beast Within. You have no way to deal with their lands.... and that will give you flexibility to do so... or other stuff. You might want to honestly play Seasons Past in this deck. Late game especially it will do more for you to get back some stuff. Yes I know you run bow... but that isn't enough.
Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper is literally a worse Ancient Tomb in every possible way... it's also dmg... versus paying the cost of life. That does matter in some situations. While we are on the topic of lands... get rid of riftstone portal... you shouldn't ever be having issues getting the land needed for what you do need. Yes I know it lets your fetch lands tap for green or white.... but just get a Strip Mine or Wasteland
You can remove lotus petal as you aren't a fast combo deck... it's unnecessary.... also remove mirari... you again aren't a combo deck... and even combo decks aren't using it. It's more of a good value feel card.. and you only have 9 cards that can use it... it's a wasted slot beyond necessary. You can put something else in there of value...maybe more good ramp? maybe... the Chord of Calling... which should be in here. You should probably have Crop Rotation in here... you have 2 very powerful lands in here that I'm sure you want out. Just because you have sisay doesn't mean you can't have other good tutors. Gaea's is a good sisay tutor... but why do that... when you can get rid of a fetch land that you don't need to fetch any more stuff... and get gaeas with it.
These are just a few things too look at. You have a lot of things that don't belong in here, or stuff that literally is just better to replace it. You can generally tell if a deck is optimized by looking at certain card choices. If it is because of money... then fine I get it, but most of these cards I mentioned are not expensive.
5 days ago
So, first thoughts: it looks good! Very cohesive, good selection of reanimation, good targets to put in graveyard, etc. This is quite a bit better than my first EDH deck was, so kudos XD
With that being said, there are several places I might tune this deck, sorted into the rough categories below:
Removal/Interaction: Toxic Deluge is an amazing board wipe in EDH, almost unquestionably better than Damnation here (you can tailor it to miss your commander, too!). Beast Within is one of the best removal spells in the format, along with Nature's Claim and Assassin's Trophy: I'd try and include all three. Maybe might run a few counterspells such as Swan Song/Counterspell/Muddle the Mixture, but that's more of a taste thing: do you want your deck to be more slow and grindy and controlling, or more aggressive where it primarily uses its removal to deal with specific problems? You could also add Lightning Greaves, which is an amazing way to give protection and haste to your commander.
Other targets for reanimation: Sewer Nemesis maybe? I might actually NOT run Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger here, I'm not convinced he does enough to warrant being reanimated when you have other targets like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur laying around. I'd also work on cutting down on SOME of these, since they're pretty much dead in your hand: do you really NEED Ghoultree as a vanilla 10/10 that's only good when exiled by your commander? Et cetera ;)
Other good methods of self-mill: The new set gave us various Surveil cards (particularly Doom Whisperer, run him, he's awesome). Beyond that, Mesmeric Orb (hey, convenient that you have one!), Underrealm Lich, Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, maybe Fraying Sanity? I'd check out the Sidisi list I texted to you, it has some good ones. I'd also use Glimpse the Unthinkable here, probably.
Other great reanimation spells: Exhume, Dance of the Dead, Dread Return, Victimize. Your deck isn't a token deck, so Whisper, Blood Liturgist isn't amazing here, but Hell's Caretaker might do the trick. Final Parting is a MUST, given that you can tutor Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur into GY and Reanimate/Animate Dead into hand.
Landbase tuning: For what it's worth, there's a strong argument for running ZERO basics here (despite increased vulnerability to Blood Moon/Back to Basics/Ruination) for the instant mill combo with Hermit Druid. But if you're gonna do that, or even if you're not, you want less lands that will enter the battlefield tapped (and/or to include Amulet of Vigor). Beyond that, Songs of the Damned is an AWESOME card in this deck, and Ramunap Excavator is silly here obviously. I'd also play the five allied fetchlands (Wooded Foothills, Polluted Delta, Windswept Heath, Flooded Strand, and Bloodstained Mire) and the three appropriate shocklands (Breeding Pool, Watery Grave, and Overgrown Tomb). In a 3-color deck, I'd remove most utility lands (excluding Rogue's Passage and Cephalid Coliseum, maybe one or two more), and primarily work on fixing your colors and having lands come in untapped. The other major lands I'd say you're missing are City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. You can probably cut down to 36 lands, which can open a slot or two.
I'd say that the most natural cuts would be Fleet Swallower, Ghoultree, It That Betrays, Laboratory Maniac, Master Biomancer, Reyhan, Last of the Abzan, Taigam, Sidisi's Hand, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Chill of Foreboding, Damnation, Sultai Ascendancy, and two lands. After that point, cutting gets hard.
I hope that helps!! :)
6 days ago
Cut Progenitus down to 2 copies. I would throw in Fog and maybe even Avoid Fate or other means to protect your creatures. I might drop Elvish Mystic for Birds of Paradise, worldspine worm for Primeval Titan, utopia sprawl for Beast Within, throw in better lands.
1 week ago
I've never played with any un-cards, but generally whenever a text on a card refers to a card by its name it is translated in the cases of copying as "this permanent" rather than the printed name.
706.10b A copy of an ability has the same source as the original ability. If the ability refers to its source by name, the copy refers to that same object and not to any other object with the same name. The copy is considered to be the same ability by effects that count how many times that ability has resolved during the turn.
For example if Mirage Mirror died while copying The Scarab God it will get returned to its owner's hand at the end of turn, regardless of the fact that it is not considered a creature or The Scarab God while in the graveyard. So Phoebe, Head of S.N.E.A.K. will permanently have the text and refer to herself in all instances of the name Modular Monstrosity in her newly acquired text box.
1 week ago
Any deck that plays Nulltread Gargantuan gets an upvote from me!
Consider Coiling Oracle. Pairs great with Nulltread, evolves your 0 power creatures, and is a reasonable graft target. Also inexpensive! I have no idea what Fathom Mage or Master Biomancer are worth right now, but if they're in your budget you should definitely run them. Experiment One is another great evolve creature. Strangleroot Geist and Young Wolf both have undying, which is recursion PLUS a 1/1 counter! Avatar of the Resolute and Narnam Renegade are great 1/1 counter cards. Woodland Wanderer is a personal favorite of mine in 2+ color decks. I know Hardened Scales just recently jumped in price but it's a card to look out for if you can afford it.
You should consider playing some removal or counterspells so that a well-creafted deck doesn't just roll all over you. Mana Leak and Remand are cheap, effective counterspells. Unfortunately Blue + Green is the color combination with the worst removal - your best bets are Rapid Hybridization or Beast Within.
Your lands could use a little improving too. I know that's hard on a budget, but Botanical Sanctum is still (relatively) inexpensive, so you can try that. You could also look at Hinterland Harbor, though honestly I don't remember what the price on that looks like at the moment. At absolute bare minimum you could consider some Evolving Wilds so you can grab the color you want when you need it. They also trigger Revolt for Narnam Renegade, if you do wind up running that.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck and have fun!
1 week ago
While your deck is turned in hyper drive with ramp to get the combo out as fast as possible, 1 counter spell or 1 removal is all it takes to stop this deck.
in Cedh there are a a LOT of those.
I used to run a similar sisay deck with 40 lands, 45 ramp and the rest combo cards (I ran the saffi/yomi combo) and while it worked amazing vs casual groups, when going against Cedh players it got destroyed more then I liked.
I cut a bit of the mana ramp and added protection like:
Dosan the Falling Leaf
Rebuff the Wicked
Lapse of Certainty
Brave the Elements
Now the deck is still super fast, turn 2 sisay still happens but now I also win more.
Your opponents know they need to stop sisay or paradox engine and one of them will have the card to stop you, or worse they have a faster combo then you (flash hulk for instance).
I know it looks super cool beeing able to combo of super fast BUT in Cedh forget it, it aint happening unless you get super lucky that all 3 opponents have a bad opening hand
1 week ago
Hi! Looks like a sweet start to a Merfolk deck (a deck I've wanted to build myself for quite a while)! Here are some recommendations:
- Seafloor Oracle is a pretty powerful card draw engine when you can get it online early
- Merfolk Mistbinder is another 2-mana lord
- Forerunner of the Heralds and Merrow Harbinger are good tutors
- Tatyova, Benthic Druid is just a good card in Commander, and the fact that she's a merfolk is just an added bonus
- Murkfiend Liege, Seedborn Muse, and Paradox Engine help you activate Kumena's abilities many times in a turn cycle.
- Surgespanner can be a house, bouncing tons of permanents each turn, as you can tap it for free
- Cryptolith Rite is good ramp and a strong "tap outlet"
- Lightning Greaves is good at protecting Kumena or any other powerful creature you may have
- Kodama's Reach should be in every green deck
- Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip can make a ton of mana, and helps you dig towards your creatures as well.
- Beast Within is an extremely powerful removal spell
- Treetop Village and Lumbering Falls; manlands are so much worse in Commander than in 60-card formats
- Remote Isle; blue and green have better ways to draw cards than cycling away your lands
- Vivid Creek and Vivid Grove; green has much better mana fixing
- Bioshift doesn't really do anything
- Tideshaper Mystic is the same; cutting one opponent off of mana doesn't do much, and 1/1s for 1 that die to board wipes are mediocre at best.
- World Shaper isn't really where you want to be; you don't have a ton of graveyard synergies
- River's Rebuke isn't my favorite board wipe in Commander, even in blue/green. I'd play Devastation Tide instead.
- Slinn Voda, the Rising Deep just does too little for 10 mana. If you're spending 10 mana on a single card, that card should be winning you the game.
- Talrand, Sky Summoner, as you don't have a ton of spell synergies
- True-Name Nemesis is good, but mainly in Legacy. In Commander, a 3/1 that just one player can't interact with is bad.
- Shapers of Nature is a decent mana sink, but I think you'd rather just be doing something else with your mana.
Hope this helps! If you'd like me to explain some of my choices more, or if you want help on another deck, feel free to leave a comment on my profile, and I'll take a look as soon as I can!