Sunforger

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Pre-release Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Commander 2016 (C16) Rare
Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2) Rare
Ravnica: City of Guilds (RAV) Rare

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Sunforger

Artifact — Equipment

Equipped creature gets +4/+0.

, Unattach Sunforger: Search your library for a red or white instant card with converted mana cost 4 or less and play that card without paying its mana cost. Then shuffle your library.

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Sunforger Discussion

DespairFaction on Yo War get over here

16 hours ago

Hey its PJ from Commander Replay. You're deck looks to be in great shape, so I have a few suggestions that I think it will help trim some fat and add more punch.

First up the cards to cut. Id get rid of Mind's Eye The way this deck plays you're going to want to tap out your mana every turn and you don't really have time to leave mana open to try and draw, plus its clunky at 5cc. Also cut Reforge the Soul I find it to be too slow. You usually need to take an entire turn off to play it, so its just too slow and clunky. Wheel of fortune is great, but if you can't afford it just stick with magus of the wheel. The cost of 3 then 2 is much better than 5 all at once. Your card draw will come primary from Mask of Memory, Sword of Fire and Ice with Sunforger and Sword of the Animist also generating card advantage. Next I personally would cut the Ancient Den, Great Furnace and Mox Opal package since you don't want your lands getting taken down by vandalblast. I would use Thought Vessel in place of mox opal. Next up cut Divine Reckoning its just never going to do what you want it to. Use a full board wipe instead. I would cut Gratuitous Violence its always been a bit too slow for me and the RRR is hard to get on turn 5. Next were going to cut Relic Seeker for open the armory, its a great card early but gets less good the longer the game goes, its usually one of the last cards i cut trying to get down to 99. Ive always found Savage Beating to be too slow.

Next up, the maybe cuts. Sword of Light and Shadow I have tried to live the light and shadow dream for a long time and it just usually doesn't come through. I have found that you really want higher creature counts to get good benefit out of it. Great card, but not the right home. Ive never had great experience with Assemble the Legion if you're having more success than me, keep it, if not cut it. Pay attention to The Immortal Sun and Alms Collector I haven't tested either of these, but if they are playing well keep them, if they aren't cut them.

Once you know what to cut, it frees up a lot of room. So you can use my suggestions for additions if you want to, or you can try out some other things that you want to. But here are the cards that I would add:

Duelist's HeritageIt will replace gratuitous violence nicely.Open the Armory will replace relic seeker. find your equipment immediately. Glorybringer is just insane with Aurelia. On turn 5 it kills most things. Balan, Wandering Knight, Kazuul's Toll Collector, Armory Automaton all 3 are great in equipment decks. Next up your sunforger package, Comeuppance and Sulfurous Blast are all stars for me. If sun forger with mistveil plains, comeuppance says you can't kill me in combat. Sulfurous is often one of the first things I go for after resolving sun forger, beyond obviously leaving up boros charm and teferis. Neheb, the Eternal gives you a second way to hit the aggravated assault combo, is a good beater, and even just some incidental extra mana is nice. And finally I would add in the full board wipe of you choice Blasphemous Act, Wrath of God All Is Dust and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon are all great choices. Pick the one best fits.

The mana base. Emeria, The Sky Ruin is a must. If they are in the budget khans fetches like Windswept Heath are really nice. If not, I would get the mirage fetches like Flood Plain. Focus on the white fetchlands since they get mistveil plains. Because you have 1 hit potential, Cathedral of War is a solid choice but it does have cost sometimes of being colorless. New Benalia is also solid.

Other things that I like a lot but aren't must includes. Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Inferno Titan, Etali, Primal Storm. Treasonous Ogre is a card not many people know about, I've used it successfully, but I would make sure you have some life gain to balance it out.

Heres some personal preference things:I run Tithe and Gift of Estates in place of Weathered Wayfarer each have pros and cons. I like running Wear / Tear even though you can only cast half of it off sun forger. I prefer Swiftfoot Boots over Lightning Greavesbecause of the awkwardness of shroud.

I need to update it, theres a few cards I no longer use. but I have a very similar Aurelia list you can check it out here. Aurelia Weapons of War

For me with a deck like this, early game I focus on mask of memory and/or sword of the animist to generate some early advantage. These also don't draw as much artifact hate as the big hitters. Then ill bring down sun forger, feast and famine and fire and ice or argentum armor later to close things out.

Anyway hope these help!

-PJ

Elywood on Kaalia - Cheat A/D/D

18 hours ago

Spirits, wow thank you for the super detailed writeup. Really appreciate it!

Budget is certainly an issue for me so most of the dual-lands and expensive cards like Mana Crypt, Cavern of Souls, Demonic Tutor/Vampiric Tutor are probably out of the question for now... But definitely something I'm keeping an eye on. In the meantime, do you have any good budget substitutions?

To give some context, my meta is multiplayer casual-competitive (slightly more casual than competitive) and not super fast by any means. Our games usually go long and end from attrition or someone goes off and has an explosive turn. I'm trying to build Kaalia to be a bit more competitive since she is a tier 3 commander going against potentially other tier 1-2 commanders. My specific playstyle is definitely more fun oriented. I like being able to go off, but also enjoy the interactive parts (hence the Sunforger). I'd rather not go MLD and rob other people's fun (same reason I'm not a fan of infinite combos or auto-win conditions like Master of Cruelties). I like the idea of adding multiple attack phases with my current free A/D/D via reanimation or cheat-in-ability strategy.

My primary concern with Kaalia is running out of cards/not having enough lands to be able to do things if Kaalia gets shut down. Which is why you see a lot of protection spells (Earnest Fellowship Devoted Caretaker Shunt), ramp (Solemn Simulacrum Land Tax Gilded Lotus), and recursion (Sun Titan). I'm curious how you play around this or what your thoughts are on this? I don't mind losing, but not being able to do anything in a game is the worst haha... so adding those cards is meant to add some consistency.

I'm definitely still working on the mana base, but your mana breakdown analysis is super helpful. I'll take that into account as I get more lands

RazortoothMtg on Marchesa Forced Attack

1 day ago

Oooh! I love Near-Death Experience! Finally a place to put the shiny (and very warped) FTV version I have! Will have to add that, Fortune Thief, and Angel's Grace as soon as I can.

Suns_Champion, ya I got a lot of those in, but you did point out a couple I missed. Comeuppance seems sweet, as effectively a wrath for one opponent, and fetchable with Sunforger (which I had been considering, but left out bc I didn't know if I had enough cards to get with it. I'm adding it after I add Comeuppance and maybe some of those Fogs). I already had Selfless Squire, Worship, and Rakdos Charm. Not a huge fan of Deflecting Palm here, as in my meta the only time it'll do a ton of damage is after a Craterhoof Behemoth resolves or something similar. Wrath of Goad seems at the very least a lot of fun. And a tad more damage prevention would probably be smart, so Gisela, Blade of Goldnight or something similar should be in here (Is Protection of the Hekma is probably too little for too much mana. Maybe Ajani Steadfast for the ult? His other abilities might be a good wincon, either by slowly getting in with Marchesa or pumping up a ton of tokens).

DrukenReaps: Gonna read through your deck as soon as I post this. I know Aikido is a much better version of what I'm trying to do here, but my playgroup always tries to kill me first, so politics isn't my strong point.

cdkime: As I said above, thanks so much for suggesting Near-Death Experience! Didn't even think about that. I'll test Soul Link and the others, since as I said above I do need a little more damage prevention so I don't just force people to kill me. On that note, the Fogs might make their way in, starting with Batwing Brume and Pollen Lullaby. Darkness and Holy Day will really only be considered if I go with the Paradox Engine idea, but I'll have to make sure I have enough instants w/ CMC 2 or 1 for Isochron Scepter, and enough cards that will make Paradox Engine useful elsewhere. Or maybe I just add a lot more tutors.

Thanks everyone for so much support on this deck so far!

Spirits on Kaalia - Cheat A/D/D

1 day ago

Hi Elywood, Good start! Kaalia of the Vast is a really fun, albeit tier 3, commander that is the best!

Not sure of your budget, but here are some suggestion.

Alternative to Combo Win-Cons

The standard win-con in a Kaalia of the Vast which is not a combo is... Land Destruction! The idea being to use card's like Boros Charm, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Teferi's Protection to protect yourself; OR have an A/D/D in hand that you can free cast that demands a response, but is hard to deal with no lands, like Hellkite Tyrant or Iona, Shield of Emeria. The key cards to this strategy are: Crucible of Worlds, Armageddon, Ravages of War, Cataclysm, Strip Mine, Waste land, Command Beacon. This is a HIGHLY viable strategy, people may not like facing your Kaalia of the Vast deck, but it definitely isn't a combo strategy.

Master of Cruelties has to be in there, attack with Kaalia of the Vast, drop in Master of Cruelties, during the declare blockers step their life becomes 1 (assuming he is unblocked), and Kaalia of the Vast hits for 2 finishing the player. Not a combo, a necessary Demon.

Another common strategy is multiple attack phases, non-combo, but with big A/D/D beaters, having multiple swings (especially with Vigilance is amazing way to deal damage). The key cards are: Hellkite Charger, Aggravated Assault, Sword of Feast and Famine, Aurelia, the Warleader, Seize the Day. There is a combo with Adarkar Valkyrie + Aurelia, the Warleader + sac outlet out of interest. Adarkar Valkyrie although not working properly with the Kaalia of the Vast mechanics, is still a great recursion angel. Reconnaissance is nice for this strategy too, as you can pull back your Kaalia of the Vast against block heavy decks, as well POST-damage, you can pull back EVERYONE, basically it gives all your creatures Vigilance.

Free A/D/D strategy, you have it with Sneak Attack, Quicksilver Amulet, Mimic Vat so your already there, try a Whip of Erebos gives all your creatures Lifelink, which increases your sustainability in drawn out games (non-combo strategy the only way to win is in a drawn-out game), plus give you another recursion engine. Could use a Sundial of the Infinite to keep them on the board permanently!!

Mana Sources

Lands: Blood Crypt, Godless Shrine, Sacred Foundry, Bloodstained Mire, Arid Mesa, Marsh Flats would be some nice improvements.

Rocks: Mana Crypt, Chromatic Lantern would be good.

$$$: Plateau, Scrubland, Badlands

Control

Angel of Despair is great at removal, Anguished Unmaking is necessary, Terminate at CMC2 is good as well.

Stranglehold is another good control mechanism, you have a few, can look at pairing it with Maralen of the Mornsong to lock down opponents draw. She has synergy with some other guys like Aven Mindcensor/Ob Nixilis, Unshackled. Eidolon of Rhetoric might stop a Sunforger cast depending on what you did earlier that turn, like a Haste Kaalia of the Vast for example, to consider, or in an Armageddon build will be very bad.

Out of the 99 Considerations

I'm not a huge fan of Reverberate/Shunt, you have Sunforger so I get it, but it will often just sit in your hand. And Kaalia of the Vast is usually splash , so not that valuable. Would rather have a Steel Hellkite or a Gisela, the Broken Blade, or heck, even a Wild Ricochet

Solemn Simulacrum really unnecessary land searching. Use mana-enablers instead.

Toxic Deluge is an all-star removal, but he removes Indestructible, so unless your facing that frequently in your play-groups, it will hurt you more than a Damnation, Wrath of God, or Rout will.

Boros Garrison/Orzhov Basilica I find it too slow without infinite combo, although it ramps, but you have lots of mana enablers. Field of Ruin colorless mana isn't great, don't need the search. Flamekin Village cost is too high, tapped+, try a Hall of the Bandit Lord. Shadowblood Ridge is also not great (I know it seems like it should be, but it's not!), Slayers' Stronghold is too expensive , use Hanweir Battlements instead, but even then it's borderline (but better), Smoldering Marsh isn't going to come in untapped when you need it, Temple of Malice/Temple of Silence I also don't like, but borderline for me would be my last cuts, Vivid Meadow is no.

Earnest Fellowship I wouldn't do this, might make it hard for you to block (which you have the big creatures that are hard to block already). A little too dangerous for my liking, let opponents pump their creatures, no need to do it for them, and block with your big guys.

Don't need Land Tax either, not enough basic lands. Wear could easily be an Anguished Unmaking and have better removal or a Vandalblast to get away from 1 for 1 play.

Devoted Caretaker I wish she provided protection period so could go unblockable. I think Mother of Runes is enough, but maybe theres someone that gives just protection and doesn't cost a and ? But it does permanents, so I get it.

Kothophed, Soul Hoarder will not be your friend some days during board wipe, but with so little drawing in Mardu, he's a fun one! I would run him in this type of build!

Coalition Relic I don't know it's worth it, give me a Chromatic Lantern any day.

Sun Titan is questionable, what are you bringing back? Lightning Greaves, Sunforger, Animate Dead, Necromancy only stuff. He's discretionary. High Mana cost but utility, he can combo with Fiend Hunter but again combos a different strategy (so can Karmic Guide btw).

Gilded Lotus seems highly unnecessary. Love the artwork on the Kokusho, the Evening Star always wanted him in.

Mana Distrubition

Right now, your 46%, 33%, 21% but your mana is 28%, 37%, 35%. In addition, Turn 1: 80%, 10%, 10%! / lands will be your best friends, but balancing / and / lands too. Avoid / that don't provide value, like Mountain, Shadowblood Ridge (awful), Smoldering Marsh, Temple of Malice.

Windswept Heath/Polluted Delta/Etc, the Off-Color fetches, can really help mana fix, pull a Sacred Foundry with Windswept Heath or a Godless Shrine with Polluted Delta / Etc.

Other Notables

Demonic Tutor doesn't get much better than that! Mortify can be a good utility removal the CMC3 makes it less attractive, Vampiric Tutor although inefficient to pull a Lightning Greaves or Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is still good enough. It's instant so at EOT pull what you need. Rakdos the Defiler can be fun in a Armageddon model. Fetid Heath/Rugged Prairie are not too shabby. Sensei's Divining Top can help look and top-deck the A/D/D you need, IF you have none in hand it can swap places so you don't miss Kaalia of the Vast drops. Cavern of Souls against Grixis/Izzet, Phyrexian Reclamation can keep you rolling once you run out of cards-in-hand, an alternate quasi-draw.

Very good Kaalia of the Vast non-combo deck, looks like a blast to play. Hopefully you found some of these ramblings useful.

Suns_Champion on Marchesa Forced Attack

2 days ago

How to make your opponents suffer: Comeuppance, Deflecting Palm, Selfless Squire, Rakdos Charm, Batwing Brume, maybe Delirium and Backlash. Consider making these a base for a Sunforger package. Settle the Wreckage is a really good one for Sunforger!

Rattlesnake: Vampire Nighthawk, maybe Master of Cruelties.

Force attack: Disrupt Decorum and Besmirch might be good. They don't necessarily attack you though.

Protection: Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Worship.

Looks like a good start! Long live the Queen!

JuQ on Weenies Who Smile At Death

2 days ago

I'm preparing a deck with Alesha and your's looks pretty much like what I have in mind.
You probably know already, but creatures that enter the battlefield attacking won't trigger "Whenever this attacks" type abilities, they must be declared attackers for that to happen. So if you bring Ankle Shanker or Tajic, Blade of the Legion with Alesha they won't do their thing that turn.

Do you want more deathtouch? Basilisk Collar to get access lifelink and Quietus Spike to force your oponents to feed creatures to Alesha.

I'm always trying to find a good deck to use Sunforger, this may be it.

These colors have bad card draw, Ghirapur Orrery would be good on this deck.

Retribution of the Meek and Slaughter the Strong are board wipes perfectly tailored for Alesha.

You could swap Palisade Giant for Protector of the Crown lower toughness but it gets you card via monarch, the deck is quite aggressive so getting the crown back shouldn't be a problem, or you can just animate him again.

Ravenous Chupacabra is Nekrataal without restrictions (and a much funnier name).

From your primer:
"Master of Cruelties + Strionic Resonator OR Illusionist's Bracers: For reducing multiple opponents to 1 health"

That doesn't work that way. Master of cruelties' ability doesn't have a target, it just affects the defending player, even if that player has hexproof or shroud. If you copy the ability it will still be affecting the defending player, you can't choose any other.
MoC's ability is a triggered ability and you won't be able to duplicate it with the Illusionist's bracers, they only work on activated abilities that are always written in the form "Cost: Effect."
In your deck Illusionist's Bracers would only be useful with Feldon of the Third Path (technically also work with Kytheon and Mirror entity, but copying their ability is redundant). I dont see the Bracers on your deck list so I guess you took them out already.

JuQ on Aurelia, the Warleader

4 days ago

It comes to my mind more suff that trigger when you attack Captain's Claws, Goblin Rabblemaster, Hero of Bladehold, Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Launch the Fleet, Soltari Champion, Accorder Paladin, Goblin Wardriver, Hero of Oxid Ridge, Wingmate Roc, Frontline Medic, Firemane Avenger.

Or when they deal combat damage Prophetic Flamespeaker Skeleton Key, Mask of Memory, Rogue's Gloves, Specter's Shroud, Destructive Urge, Markov Blademaster, Slith Ascendant, Blinding Angel, Falkenrath Marauders and any of the "sword of A and B".

And more Extert Angel of Condemnation, Tah-Crop Elite, Glorybringer.

I'm always looking for a Boros deck to run the Sunforger too bad you have so few instants.
Card draw is hard in Boros, so I'd also try to use Staff of Nin, The Immortal Sun together with the Ghirapur Orrery you already included.

I hope you find something useful among these cards.

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