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Sunforger
Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +4/+0.
, Unattach Sunforger: Search your library for a red or white instant card with converted mana cost 4 or less and cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then shuffle your library.
Equip (Attach this to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
MTGBurgeoning on Feather Locklear
3 days ago
I have not considered Mistveil Plains. A little graveyard-to-the-library recursion may be useful, particularly, as you mentioned, with Sunforger on our side of the battlefield. Maybe swapping this in for Needle Spires or Temple of Triumph is reasonable. Vandalblast's absence from the deck at this time can be explained by availability. When this deck was built, copies of Vandalblast were not plentiful. Now, after many instances of reprinting, it is much more feasible to include a copy of it here. As for Into the Core, I've always been a big fan of this card, and for the reasons you mentioned: Instant-speed artifact exile. Blightsteel Colossus is very, very popular in my playgroup, to the point of reconciling ways to answer it for when (not if) if hits the battlefield. Into the Core handles this problem well. Another card I love is Aria of Flame. I have championed this card since its debut in MH1. It is the second card I consider tutoring for after Aetherflux Reservoir. Its enchantment status gives it staying power on the battlefield, and if the Feather engine is revving optimally, then gifting our opponents with that extra life is never a problem. Give it a whirl!
riddik695 on cEDH Zirda
5 months ago
I actually had Sunforger in the original build since Zirda, the Dawnwaker makes the equip 1 also but I sure didn't think about doing infinite turns lol. That's pretty awesome really. I think it may be a bit clunky like you said but I think I might try it anyway cause infinite turns in boros would be the best!
king-saproling on cEDH Zirda
5 months ago
What do you think of Sunforger? It gives you full access to your control suite and perhaps more importantly, Enlightened Tutor. Also since you have Angel's Grace you could include Final Fortune or Chance for Glory to safely take an extra turn using Sunforger.
This is probably too clunky for a streamlined build like yours, but you could go spice level midnight and take infinite turns using Sunforger and the previously-mentioned cards along with Tithe tutoring for Mistveil Plains, Enlightened Tutor for Expedition Map, Map for Deserted Temple, then use Temple and Plains to recycle Final Fortune and Angel's Grace each turn. Again this is more wacky than strategic but I had to bring it up because infinite turns in Boros!?!
CinnaBunMon on Wacky Waving Infallible Life Flailing Masochists
7 months ago
Thanks for the tip!
I've actually been using this deck for a few years now and haven't run into cards that stop life gain too often (I think my playgroups just don't use them very much). It does slow the deck down quite a bit and makes you have to actually think more... might take that extra removal into consideration. Maybe something like Felidar Cub so I can get it back with Ravos and other graveyard recursion cards. I do have Sunforger which helps search them up (but that's really it...).
For the most part, when I've ran into things that stop life gain I've either been able to remove it pretty easily, or put both me and it's controller in a position where we're easy to kill (sort of a "take you down with me" move). Using something like Repay in Kind or Magus of the Mirror to take us both to 1 life is dang satisfying.
Lol yeah, I've been knocked out of the game with Atarka's Command before and got a good laugh out of it.
eliakimras on Wyleth, Boros Voltron
7 months ago
Hello fellow Wyleth, Soul of Card Draw player!
I'm glad you got both Wyleth's and Aesi's precons for a good price. They are reeeeally explosive in gameplay with a few upgrades.
I play a lot of this bad boy, and I want to suggest some swaps below 3 USD for you to take it to a higher ground:
First of all, the ramp. I found out that 2 CMC, untapped ramp is the best for Wyleth. Since he draws so many cards, he can chain rocks and voltron pieces in the same turn, so his next turn is even more explosive than the last one. I almost always have more mana than the Green decks in my pod.
- Oreskos Explorer -> Dowsing Dagger  Flip (you can get this to flip easily on turn 4)
- Kor Cartographer (too slow) -> Arcane Signet
- Emeria Shepherd (Voltron decks need a REALLY good reason to run cards above 3 mana in their builds) -> Starnheim Courser (this allows you to storm out of control. It is another body to voltron if needed)
- Keeper of the Accord (the token is irrelevant for you and, with Wyleth's card draw, you won't be behind in land drops) -> Talisman of Conviction
You should run boardwipes that hits your stuff the least:
- Tragic Arrogance (no need to destroy your own stuff) -> The Eternal Wanderer's ult
- Disenchant -> Heliod's Intervention
- Ironclad Slayer (we'll compensate him in the landbase) -> Vandalblast
Also, you can streamline your removal package. All of those are fetchable by Sunforger:
- Wear / Tear (good removal, but you already have more flexible options) -> Reprieve (that's one hell of a card to fetch out with Sunforger)
- Hyena Umbra (still vulnerable to exile and bounce effects) -> Blacksmith's Skill (all-around protection)
More/better auras and equipment
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Temur Battle Rage is a cute combat trick, but Battle Mastery is permanent and triggers Wyleth.
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Same to Reyav, Master Smith: one thing I've learned is to only rely on other card types for things Auras and Equipments can't do. All That Glitters, most of the time, performs better than him.
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Infuriate -> Thran Power Suit (same reason as above)
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Adeline, Resplendent Cathar (lost to her yesterday, but she does not give value here) -> Empyrial Armor (Wyleth gets huge with this)
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Kor Duelist -> Empyrial Plate (same as above)
- Gimli's Axe -> Maul of the Skyclaves
- Argentum Armor (too expensive to cast) -> Mirror Shield (hexproof is crucial on a Voltron build)
Cheating equip costs
- Brass Squire (having to wait a turn to use his ability is rough) -> Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist
- Kemba, Kha Regent (too slow for a Voltron build) -> Bruenor Battlehammer
If you really need to protect yourself against attacks, Ghostly Prison is a way better Palace Guard.
More utility lands
- Minas Tirith (Wyleth draws enough cards already. Also, most of the time, you will only have a single creature on the field) -> Axgard Armory (tutor on a land)
- Plains -> Sejiri Shelter  Flip (a protection spell stapled onto a land)
- Mountain -> Buried Ruin (Ironclad Slayer's removal is avenged!)
- Plains -> Mistveil Plains (it can return instants back to the deck to be fetched again by Sunforger)
- Mountain -> Great Furnace (synergy with All That Glitters and Puresteel Paladin)
- Plains -> Ancient Den (same as above)
treeforcorvus on Mardu Vehicles Commander
7 months ago
This deck looks really cool! I really love how incredibly affordable your deck is. For a few more dollars you can add amazing improvements that will significantly improve your deck's power. There's two cards, however, that are a must:
First, Sunforger will cast ANY instant you run, allowing answers straight from your deck AND enables Vial Smasher the Fierce if used outside your turn. Path of Mettle  Flip is a decent repellant, but only if you flip it. More likely it will be an inconsistent killer or chip damage, which will only antagonize your foes, and worse it doesn't synergize with either Partner. Sunforger also makes Akiri and Jor kadeen happy, and its versatility will serve you more accurately.
Second, Mistveil Plains (searchable by Oreskos Explorer btw) pairs spectacularly with Sunforger, allowing you to recycle spent instants. Spectacular.
I recommend these replacements, which give big improvements:
- Mercadian Bazaar and Subterranean Hangar perform better than Dwarven Hold and Bottomless Vault, and are cheaper to boot!
- Terramorphic Expanse for 1 plains: better mana fixing means less mulligans. You only have 1 card that casts for W (Skullclamp), which makes Terra Expanse's versatility a superior pick.
- Clifftop Retreat for Battlefield Forge: you have nothing that requires glass.
- Isolated Chapel instead of Caves of Koilos: same as above.
- Molten Slagheap instead of Icatian Store: you still have enough plains.
- Conspiracy Theorist repaces Underworld Rage-Hound: Theorist give its 2nd option to most discard you make, can be buffed by Olivia, is cheaper to enable & is more durable than the Hound.
- Demonic Collusion or Increasing Ambition instead of Diabolic Tutor: the first synergizes with your discard theme & the second one gives more searches in a more flexible mana cost.
- Phyrexian Arena instead of Dark Tutelage. Unless your pod runs only wheel decks, Arena is far superior.
- Greasefang, Okiba Boss replaces Pyre Zombie (not enough synergy, too expensive*).
*First of all, Sun Titan and Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle will almost always better targets to reanimate. Second, compare Pyre Zombie to Torment of Hailfire: For 7BB (the cost of return/cast/sac), you'd get 7 instances of "Each opponent loses 3 life unless that player sacrifices a nonland permanent or discards a card". While Hailfire is a prohibitively expensive card, it still highlights how inefficient Pyre Zombie is without your reanimators. Considering the # of vehicles you run, Greasefang is much better.
treeforcorvus on You "lose" the game
8 months ago
Looking pretty good! After some playtesting, I have more thoughts. Your landbase is pretty slow, and with 31 lands your deck wants a little more efficiency. Replace:
- Sandsteppe Citadel with Krosan Verge.
- Jungle Shrine with Mossfire Valley.
- Sandsteppe Citadel with Sungrass Prairie.
- Nomad Outpost with Shadowblood Ridge.
- Commander's Sphere with Chromatic Lantern: consider that each of the newer tri-lands cycle for 3 anyways, which means you have ~5 chromatic-lantern cost draws and cycling can't be conventionally countered.
You've got a pretty trim list now, but I still have some suggestions.
First off, you need more ramp. Warrior's Oath looks good, but since it can't be searched by Sunforger, you're better off with ramp. I strongly recommend Tempt with Discovery, which is one of the most powerful land-search cards for a multicolor deck using green: You get any land, and then if any opponents search for lands you get that many more of any land.
Although Black Market Connections is superb, you might find more utility in Rites of Flourishing or Elven Chorus.
Djeru and Hazoret looks great, but since you're only running 16-17 other Legendary creatures excluding your commander, the odds will be 20%-25%. Not great. Consider the power of being able to flicker your commander in & out of play, allowing it to re-position targets: Ephemerate is cheap, or Eerie Interlude can protect your creatures from Wrath spells, but both spells can also be fetched with Sunforger, which improves your deck synergy.
Odric, Master Tactician looks good on paper, but he's much better when a deck is built around him. Here are 4 better options:
- Brutal Hordechief. Since you run no wraths, this is damn good.
- Triumph of the Hordes: Game finisher!!
- Glory -protection allows your creatures to connect, and you can survive wrath cards.
- Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth gets unblockable creatures. If you go this route, replace Warrior's Oath with Crop Rotation.
Macaronigrill5150 on Wield a fist of Iron
8 months ago
wideline1414 well I do need to update the description again, but that's not what I'm going for, this is deck is focused on equipping Fervent Champion, and Novice Knight with Colossus Hammer to swing for some big damage. Auriok Steelshaper is a back up option, when the Colossus Hammer fails, I can equip Auriok Steelshaper with something like Sunforger, or Plate Armor(which is why I haven't removed it from the deck yet) so he can buff Puresteel Paladin, and Esper Sentinel allowing me to hopefully finish off my opponent.
So I'm just trying to work with better back up options just in case Colossus Hammer fails. I also might add Memnite because it is a 0 cost creature making it a lot easier and faster to use Colossus Hammer. But who knows, I will definitely look into more and different equipment though!
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