Sanctum of Stone Fangs

Legendary Enchantment — Shrine

At the beginning of your precombat main phase, each opponent loses X life and you gain X life, where X is the number of Shines you control.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (30)

legendofa on

9 months ago

If you're running the Tron lands in EDH, cards like Crop Rotation, Sylvan Scrying, Elvish Reclaimer, and other land search cards will help pull them out. I'd almost recommend taking them out and replacing them with other lands, so you don't have 7+ cards ultimately dedicated to providing 7 colorless mana.

Pestilence is a repeatable source of life loss that can double as a small board wipes once you get some big creatures out.

How useful are the Sanctums? Sanctum of Stone Fangs is good with your commander, but Sanctum of Fruitful Harvest doesn't seem to add much.

I would also suggest adding some more cheap (2-3 mana) removal.

DreadKhan on Zur the enchanter $100 budget

1 year ago

Cool idea with good execution!

Not sure if you are 100% satisfied with your mana base, some stuff like Esper Panorama, Darkwater Catacombs, Skycloud Expanse, and Ash Barrens can help fix your mana, I always find Zur is a hassle to get out without stretching the budget. There are also somewhat worse options like Obscura Storefront, it's worse than Arcane Sanctum but not by a ton. I recently found out about Planar Atlas, but this looks like exactly what Zur needs to get out faster, but I do run Signets and Signet Lands, so I have more use for colourless arguably. If you're using a Sun Titan, any lands that fetch something before going to the Graveyard become pretty strong in my experience, but Myriad Landscape is hilarious if you can recur it.

Not sure if it's outside your budget, but Mirrormade is the cheapest Copy Enchantment I know of that Zur can fetch, and it can also copy an artifact, so if there is a ramp rock out Zur can find mana. Another way Zur can ramp you is The Restoration of Eiganjo  ^Flip, which also turns into a creature. Dance of Many is a pretty interesting option if someone has a really big body out against you, not sure if you face many Blightsteels.

If you like to run Rule of Law effects in Zur, you might enjoy using a little Moderation to fuel you, it's a nice cheap card. If you can draw enough cards, Stronghold Machinist and/or Stronghold Biologist are pretty interesting cards. Obviously better with Necropotence though.

If you have Vanishing on Zur, you can fetch Out of Time to wipe the board in a shockingly thorough manner, if the board is full nothing is coming back. Obviously better if you can copy it before it goes away, but Copy Enchantment and Estrid's Invocation are both pretty pricey, and there are few things as good as copying All That Glitters. Another weird thing you could do is combine Spy Kit with Cornered Market, nobody can play creatures, if you have Zur out then you should be set.

If Propaganda or Ghostly Prison are too pricey, War Tax can be an interesting alternative, it's especially useful in a Rule of Law deck where you can't play multiple Sorcery speed spells, this lets you use spare mana to hassle whomever you want, it's non-targeted and scales with the game.

I always wonder if non-cEDH Zur decks should consider running Honden of Seeing Winds and Sanctum of Calm Waters to draw cards, Zur can find you a few other Shrines if you ever draw into a Draw engine, none better than Sanctum of Stone Fangs. I guess you'd have to decide how much work 2-3 cards per turn is worth, at least once it's set up it doesn't use more resources.

multimedia on Rakdos, Lord of Riots Demon Tribal

1 year ago

Hey, with Rakdos as Commander then consider some effects that make an opponent lose life without attacking? Rakdos can't be cast without first an opponent losing life and effects that cost no additional mana as well as being repeatable are nice since you want to use your mana on your turn to cast Demons or draw. Get repeatable value while also making your opponent or each opponent lose life.

• Cryptolith Fragment  ^Flip
• Keen Duelist
• Sin Prodder
• Plague Spitter
• Sanctum of Stone Fangs

Cryptolith Fragment  ^Flip is ramp and an enabler for Rakdos. Plague Spitter is a hidden gem, repeatable 1 damage to each creature at your upkeep can wreck opponent token strategies especially Spirits who are flying blockers against Demons and opponent's green mana dorks. Lower mana cost options, less than 4 mana, are better since they can potentially be cast before Rakdos.

With Rakdos as Commander and playing Demons you need less ramp because he's a source of ramp for Demons. For this reason I would make draw more important then ramp. Still play some ramp, but more draw lets you draw Demons to cast using Rakdos mana cost reduction.

• Arcane Signet
• Rakdos Signet
• Theater of Horrors
• Florian, Voldaren Scion
• Valakut Exploration
• Mask of Memory
• Faithless Looting
• Light Up the Stage
• Seize the Spoils
• Big Score
• Unexpected Windfall
• Magus of the Wheel
• Read the Bones

For more draw my advice is make cards with repeatable effects a priory for upgrades. Draw spells that are a single effect are fine too, having both is best. Seize the Spoils, Big Score and Unexpected Windfall is loot (draw and discard) and ramp with treasures, that's really helpful for Demons to get three effects with one card.

If you're interested I offer more advice in another comment. Would you like more advice?

RekkaNoKen on Endeavor (M)

1 year ago

Thank you both for the feedback, I especially love the suggestions of Honden of Infinite Rage and Sterling Grove! I am currently biased towards 4 copies of Nine Lives as they have helped in many of the games I've played so far, but I agree that some copies could be removed depending on the matchup. I was only running 2 copies of Sanctum of Stone Fangs since it is legendary and since Clawing Torment can also be a win-con, but I can definitely see dropping the latter and other shrines for more Stone Fangs or Infinite Rage. At this point, I will focus on adding the key shrines instead of Mechanized Production and adjust the mana, hopefully without sacrificing a turn 3 Nine Lives.

wallisface on Endeavor (M)

1 year ago

I like the concept. Some thoughts:

• Sanctum of Stone Fangs is the only real card you need here to win out the game, i’d go to 4x of these. I’d also suggest playing a playset of Sterling Grove to both help find and protect your “cannot die” combo (yeah this will mean splashing green).

• to fit in the above cards, i’d drop all of the Clawing Torment, Honden of Night's Reach, and Sanctum of Tranquil Light. Honden might do nothing as your opponent may already be empty handed before it drops. Tranquil-Light also feels super slow. Clawing Torment is ok but more situational than Stone—Fangs.

Coward_Token on UB: Warhammer 40K

1 year ago

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Previews: July 26

Release date: August 12

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Temur Tyranids? I would have pegged them down as quite Golgari, they're all about growth by any means necessary. Plus some blue I guess because of their fundamental reliance on psychic Synapse creatures.

Surprised there's no Ork deck, they seem way more iconic than Necrons. (I'll admit I'm not familiar with the updated Necron fluff.)

Abaddon: I've spent too much time on /tg/ to take this armless loser seriously, new plot or not. And was "Astartes" really necessary? Space Marines are Humans, even if they're roided up with extra organs. Anyway, Failbaddon has some mechanical similarities with Neheb, the Eternal, although Aba-Dabba-Doo needs to be more stingy with spending mana to deal damage. Evasive creatures and upkeep-based burn permanents like Sanctum of Stone Fangs might be the ticket.

RDWDTR on Shrines

2 years ago

Mirror Box is a neat idea, sounds deadly after a couple turns. If you're almost decking yourself with card draw, you're going to kill your opponent first. I think Sanctum of Stone Fangs, Honden of Infinite Rage and Go-Shintai of Ancient Wars will be your most solid wincons. I personally like the ones that are solely enchantments more than creatures since they are harder to interact with. If you build around these, you should kill more consistently, and you can still keep some of the better Shrines as 1-ofs... I would mainboard some number of Idyllic Tutors to fetch out your enchantments.

Umori, the Collector is not worth it IMO, you have to pay 7 mana just to get a 1-mana discount on your stuff. That's not even mentioning the restriction. BTW this deck is amazing for Prismatic Ending (a much better piece of interaction for a deck like this than Negate), would be excellent removal for you since you're a 5-color deck. I would also probably run something like Mana Confluence or City of Brass, in addition to the Chromatic Lanterns. I'm sure you already know this but fetch lands and shock lands would go a long way for you obviously. The mana base seems like the biggest weakness. Have you ever considered something like Courser of Kruphix to help you hit land drops? I know it kind of breaks the shrine theme, but it would help you stay afloat the first few turns before you get all your shrines assembled. It would also help you hit the six land mana fix condition for The World Tree. Also Dryad of the Ilysian Grove might be playable here as well, either instead of or in addition to the aforementioned Courser. I think I like the Courser more. Being able to consistently cast your spells is important.

What kind of matchups have you play tested this against? Seems like this might struggle against faster decks. Feel free to put as little or as much stock into my suggestions as you want, I'm not sure what your budget is or how competitive you're looking to be. Glad I could be of assistance so far. This is a cool brew, but it does seem a bit slow/awkward for modern since you need multiple permanents over many turns to really get going.

Fasrielyn on

2 years ago

Wabbajacke I haven’t quite gotten to play it yet. But the main win condition is having Hallowed Haunting or Starfield of Nyx out to flood the board with tokens, or using the amount of shrines and have Sanctum of Stone Fangs drain everyone out.

For mana I don’t know quite yet. I feel like taking out some pieces for more sorcery ramp possibly.