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|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Rare|
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Land — Forest Plains
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As Temple Garden enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, Temple Garden enters the battlefield tapped.
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Temple Garden Discussion
11 hours ago
I would recommend having alot less fast lands in the deck. I personally never run more than 4 fast lands in a whole deck. Switch out some Concealed Courtyard's and Razorverge Thicket's with some more shocks like Temple Garden and even some more fetches.
2 days ago
Sprout Swarm is a good token generator, especially for Shanna, since you change buff her mid-combat just by tapping creatures.
Krosan Verge is an excellent land for green-white.
Blade of Selves doesn't work as well as you'd hope: unlike Helm of the Host the copies are legendary if the equipped creature is, so it won't let you hit everyone at once with Shanna. Blackblade Reforged might be better so you can voltron?
5 days ago
Sweet brew. I got some suggestions. Legion's Landing seems to be exactly turn 1 play you want here. Knight of Autumn is Naturalize on a stick and anything else your wanting here. Of course, if budget is not a concern Lyra has to be somewhere here.
Assuming budget is the main reason you don't have Temple Garden and full set of Sunpetal Grove I'd think about cutting Llanowar probably. He's rarely turn 1. If he is turn 1 nothing else is turn 2 on the 3CC curve anyways. In any event 20 lands is extremely low for what your doing. Nice work.
1 week ago
Are you using the guildgates in place of Temple Garden for budget reasons? Because if not, switch those out asafp
1 week ago
Brewing with Elves for Guilds of Ravnica Standard has been amazing fun because Elves have so many options right now (and more are still to be revealed). More than any other time I can remember there's been this many playable Elf options in Standard :) Elves are in both Golgari and Selesyna guilds and each guild brings something different to the tribe. So many possibilities; why not combine them? This weekend I've done just that and as a result this deck has changed, it's now Abzan.
White for Emmara, Soul of the Accord and Trostani Discordant and black for Assassin's Trophy and Swarm Guildmage. Having access to both black and white for the sideboard will open up a lot of versatile options; some are Knight of Autumn, Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Midnight Reaper and Duress. Emmara and Trostani add a new Solider token theme with Elves. New Trostani is pretty powerful for a five drop with Elves because she can give them all +1/+1 as well as make tokens who have lifelink. She's great at stabilizing against aggro as well as making my army of Elves and tokens safe from Goblin Chainwhirler's ETB ability.
Shes another anthem effect for the tribe to go along with Elvish Clancaller. Against control she puts out 5 power, 8 toughness over three bodies, good recovery from a board wipe. Trostani is great with ramp with Elves following a Trostani after a Steel Leaf Champion is a power play. Currently I'm playing 2x Trostani main deck, but I could see playing a third copy since she's another anthem effect for Elves.
A three color manabase is tricky and it's the main thing I worked on this weekend; can't play three colors if the manabase is shitty. I came to conclusion that Abzan could work with Steel Leaf Champion and Assassin's Trophy because of Overgrown Tomb, Temple Garden and by adding two cards District Guide and Song of Freyalise. Both these cards can help to fix colors of mana.
Guide is an underrated card. I tested Elvish Rejuvenator instead of Guide, but came to the conclusion that Guide is better even though if I reveal a land with Rejuvenator I can put it onto the battlefield tapped (including a dual land). Guild only puts the basic land I tutor for into my hand, but the difference is Guide can as long as I have a basic land in my library tutor for a land. Rejuvenator can miss in the top five of my library. With 30 creatures I was finding this was happening and Rejuvenator is a terrible card if he doesn't get me a land.
The 1 toughness vs 2 toughness is another factor since I'm relying on Elvish Clancaller as the tribal lord (reason to play Elves) or Trostani as anthem effects. A 3/3 Guide is much better than a 2/2 Rejuvenator with one of these anthems. 2/2 Guide survives Chainwhirler's ETB, 1/1 Rejuvenator doesn't.
I've been waiting for a reason to play Song of Freyalise with Elves and Emmara, Soul of the Accord is now the reason. Emmara and the tokens she can create have amazing interaction with Song. With Song Emmara can be ramp of any color as well as create more fuel for even more ramp the next turn. This interaction creates more creatures for more ramp, more color fixing, but these creatures are also making Song much better for it's chapter three ability which can be a win condition now.
Another reason I added Song is to make Beast Whisperer better. Using Elves as ramp instead of attacking to play even more Elves and draw cards. This is doing things that are good with Song it's adding more creatures to the battlefield who can be more ramp the next turn and it's creating a bigger army to smash my opponent with chapter three of Song.
I don't want to be attacking with Whisperer unless I know for sure it's safe. He's much better to have alive on the battlefield then attacking and doing some damage. With Song I can use Whisperer as ramp to help to play Elves which in turn is making Whisperer double useful (draw and ramp). Whisperer's draw allows me to trim the numbers of cards making it easier to build a clear core (4x Llanowar, 4x Thorn, 4x Clancaller, 4x Champion, 4x Trophy) while also having enough draw power to help to draw supporting cards.
I'm playing both Swarm Guildmage and Conclave Guildmage. It's amazing that both the Golgari and Selesyna Guildmages are Elves; these guys provide a lot of utility for the tribe. I'm been very impressed with Swarm, much less so with Conclave. Swarm in combination with Song's chapter three ability can wreck my opponent. Song gives all my creatures vigilance, I can attack with all of them including Swarm and then with five mana I can tap Swarm and give all my creatures a pump and menace. Song gives vigilance, trample and indestructible to my creatures until EOT and Swarm gives them menace EOT making my army pretty much unstoppable for the turn potentially winning the game.
Conclave is a lone 1 of because it's abilities while good are less needed and as impactful as Swarm. Giving Steel Leaf Champion or 6/7 Thorn Lieutenant trample are good reasons to play Conclave, but these are too situational scenarios. Emmara is the same exact casting cost as Conclave and she's a much more integral part of this deck's new strategy.
Assassin's Trophy is a card that's worth playing and heavily testing a three color manabase to play it. This card is powerful that theoretically I don't need to play any other removal because it can destroy anything including a damn land. Giving my opponent a basic land that they can put into play untapped does have it's disadvantages though when against aggro especially red with burn spells. As a result Trophy is a not good removal spell for the early the game, it's a mid and late game removal spell when lands matter much less to my opponent. I'm playing 4x Trophy main deck right now, but if aggro is dominate in Standard then I could see cutting some for other removal early game removal like Seal Away or Cast Down.
1 week ago
Hey, please don't hub your work in progress decks as competitive. This is a brew that has some potential for Guilds of Ravnica Standard, but it's not yet competitive.
Consider Gift of Paradise? It's ramp and good color fixing as well as life gain. The land that's enchanted can be untapped with Teferi's +1. Bant Turns (featuring Nexus of Fate) uses this strategy and it helps to make the deck play much smoother. As far as four colors go I suggest Sultai splashing white. Sultai instead of Bant because Sultai can have an amazing manabase with 4x Watery Grave and 4x Overgrown Tomb both turn on all the Check lands which is important for a control manabase that's four colors. You can splash white for Teferi, Seal Away, Chromium and other single white sideboard cards with Temple Garden, Glacial Fortress and Isolated Chapel. Sultai gives you consistent access to all the good Dimir as well as Golgari cards in the Guilds of Ravnica.
Making the manabase easier to play both Trophy and Contempt is a direction to consider because both these cards are going to be pretty powerful in upcoming Standard. Sultai more than Bant in my opinion is the better color combination to play both these cards consistently as well as to take the best advantage of surveil.
I think it's worth playtesting a small creature base of flash/surveil creatures (House Guildmage, Whisper Agent) who can be fodder to turn on undergrowth for Mausoleum Secrets. With Sultai, two drop Glowspore Shaman also has potential as it puts cards into your graveyard for Search or Mission while also helping to make land drops. Secrets is busted with Trophy because it only takes two creatures in your graveyard to tutor for Trophy. Secrets being an instant two drop tutor is nice for control.
Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
This deck is nearly perfect, but there's just a few areas of weakness that demand immediate attention.
First off, I would remove the following cards: Abrupt Decay, Angel's Grace, Anguished Unmaking, Animate Dead, Arcane Denial, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Badlands, Bayou, Birds of Paradise, Blood Crypt, Bloodstained Mire, Brainstorm, Breeding Pool, Chromatic Lantern, Chrome Mox, City of Brass, Command Tower, Cultivate, Cyclonic Rift, Dance of the Dead, Deathrite Shaman, Decree of Pain, Delay, Demonic Tutor, Enter the Infinite, Exploration, Farseek, Fellwar Stone, Fist of Suns, Flooded Strand, Godless Shrine, Hallowed Fountain, In Garruk's Wake, Intuition, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Jodah, Archmage Eternal, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Laboratory Maniac, Lotus Cobra, Maelstrom Wanderer, Mana Confluence, Mana Crypt, Marsh Flats, Merciless Eviction, Misty Rainforest, Mox Diamond, Myojin of Night's Reach, Myojin of Seeing Winds, Mystic Remora, Mystical Tutor, Nature's Claim, Nature's Lore, Negate, Omniscience, Oracle of Mul Daya, Overgrown Tomb, Painful Truths, Polluted Delta, Praetor's Counsel, Progenitus, Rhystic Study, Rise of the Dark Realms, Savannah, Scalding Tarn, Scrubland, Sensei's Divining Top, Show and Tell, Skyshroud Claim, Sol Ring, Steam Vents, Stomping Ground, Storm Herd, Survival of the Fittest, Swan Song, Swords to Plowshares, Sylvan Library, Taiga, Tainted Pact, Temple Garden, Terastodon, Three Visits, Time Stretch, Toxic Deluge, Tropical Island, Tundra, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Underground Sea, Vampiric Tutor, Verdant Catacombs, Volcanic Island, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Watery Grave, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, and Zacama, Primal Calamity.
There's really nothing you could replace these cards with that would make this deck competitive, so I'd recommend just stopping here. Good work.
2 weeks ago
Lands need major work to really balance this for stability. Glacial Fortress, Temple Garden from ravnica spoilers or Hinterland Harbor or Sunpetal Grove could be a nice way to splash green while getting your primary colors.
maybe a balance like
3x Temple Garden// 3x Glacial Fortress// 2x Hinterland Harbor// 2x Sunpetal Grove// 5x Island// 5x Plains// 2x Reliquary Tower// 1x Field of Ruin
For Counters definitely pay attention to the new set. There is already one OK counterspell and possibly more coming. I will say if you run counters you should run more of em and make them the primary base that leads into the defenders with Arcades, the Strategist. Otherwise I would reccomend being able to sort and draw extra to always make sure you get to what you need when you need it. Anticipate,Chart a Course could be very good for you instead of the counters to go along with Divination
Really like the overall idea feeding mill with it.