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Hardened Scales Discussion
4 hours ago
I often find in the theme of spellslinger/storm Atraxa, Preator's Voice is too slow in Ramos decks. I often find myself wanting more cheap spells that give Ramos many counters quickly, that can be easily reused before having a meaningful pay-off, whether that is rituals to ramp extra hard, many spells to draw more cards or put counters on ramos, etc. it all boils down to the synergy with ramos quickly gaining counters, a couple haste enablers for the late game, and several good ways to increase his counter output like Hardened Scales and Winding Constrictor
21 hours ago
Also why not try Hardened Scales? It's a great counter-adder as well as being 1 mana
2 days ago
I'd cut all the Ordeals except for the green and blue ones. Dealing 3 damage, gaining 10 life o discard someone two cards is not as good as drawing or ramping two lands. Now you can also remove the creatures with heroism.
You can also swap Forced Adaptation for Ring of Kalonia or any other of those five rings or Blade of the Bloodchief.
Hardened Scales and Winding Constrictor are no brainers.
Also Hadana's Climb and Cathars' Crusade are bananas.
Give / Take an amazing drawing spell.
Gilder Bairn improved Vorel that can also double counters on planeswalkers.
If you can afford a Kalonian Hydra, a powerhouse here.
With Cavern Harpy, Horned Kavu, Fleetfoot Panther or similar creatures and Ramos you can produce a ton of counters and mana, if you have two of different colors your can go infinite. It's a good idea here to use creatures with two or more colors to get more counters from Ramos.
3 days ago
The Sphere would probably set Animar back by about one turn. It's true that you probably won't be able to curve out in one turn if you are starting with Animar at 0 counters, but if you get to untap on a turn where Animar has 2-3 counters on him then that should be fine. Animar's advantage under Sphere is that Animar's ability basically negates the incremental tax the Sphere imposes. So while other decks are struggling to take the initiative due to their spell-per-turn ratio getting cut, Animar basically gets to say "Ok, maybe I have to play fair with my spells' mana costs for one turn." After that, it should be clear sailing due to the low cost of Animar's creatures. The only issue that might come up is if you are trying to top-end your turn with a Huge Walking Ballista or Eldrazi, which may require you to wait another turn if you haven't managed to build up enough net mana value over the course of your turn. If you do have to wait, you would probably still be able to kill one of your opponents with just commander damage. If everyone is tapped out you might even just get a chance to kill the player that owns the Sphere and then you can finish comboing off.
Hardened Scales really shows its value when Animar is having to play through the Sphere.
4 days ago
Have you considered Bioshift? It targets the Sage of Hours as well as moving counters off of your Managorger Hydra or something else that generates lots of counters onto the the sage. It will also gain a few extra counters from Hardened Scales in both instances of it being target and having counters moved onto it.
4 days ago
It's related to the one that pops up in Ghave decks with the Altars that let you sac for mana. Based on what I have in this one I think you need four cards, so it certainly isn't easy to get, especially since Ghave isn't the commander: Ghave, Doubler Combo*, and Utopia Mycon; where the doubler combo is Doubling Season or Parallel Lives plus any of Cathar's Crusade or Champion of Lambholt or Mazirek
1) Pay 1 mana to change a +1/+1 counter into two Saprolings (get at least one more +1/+1 counter if using Crusade or Lambholt)
2) Sac one of the Sarpolings to the Mycon to get your initial mana back (get at least one the +1/+1 counter if using Mazirek)
You're now back where you started with an extra Saproling and possibly extra +1/+1 counters. If you had out any of the red artillery cards out then you do damage as you go through the steps too.
Using Ghave as your commander and adding in Ashnod's Altar, Crystalline Crawler, Earthcraft, Hardened Scales, Lumberknot, Phyrexian Altar, Primal Vigor, and Winding Constrictor in addition to the others listed above makes it a lot easier to get a combo out, including with only three cards instead of four (Ghave + Doubling Season + Ashnod's Altar: mana and a +1/+1 counter -> two saprolings -> two mana and a saproling left -> two +1/+1 counters with one mana left -> one +1/+1 counter and two saproling - > one +1/+1 counter one saproling and two mana; so you're a saproling and a mana ahead each time through).
4 days ago
4 days ago
still, a fun deck for casual play with surprising and sudden wins happening. For modern you would need to dump those commander creatures for stuff like Rogue's Passage and add more copies of Forced Adaptation. You could add Bow of Nylea and/or Hardened Scales to replace Ezuri as well.