Hardened Scales

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If one or more +1/+1 counters would be placed on a creature you control, that many plus one +1/+1 counters are placed on it instead.

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Hardened Scales Discussion

luther on Animar, Soul of Eldrazi

1 day ago

You can probably cut a bit of your tapping creature ramp, cards like Wood Elves Sakura-Tribe Elder and Solemn Simulacrum generally do the job better in edh (imo). I would also toss thromok. I feel that impact tremors is low impact annoyance that will make people more apt to get rid of you as opposed to someone else in a multiplayer setting. Bow of nylea seems underwhelming. you have big beaters, to deathtouch on a 10/10 is a bit unnecessary. Hardened Scales and Doubling Season ramp up your animar, and the season benefits your spawn/scion also. Lastly, and most importantly Cloudstone Curio + animar + eldrazi= infinitely large animar and infinite etb triggers

Raging_Squiggle on Is it an infinite combo?

1 day ago

To specifically answer the question, replacement effects only apply to a single event one time.

If multiple replacement effects are trying to be applied to one event, the controller of the event being replaced chooses which one to apply, and if the other is still applicable, it is then also applied.

In your case, you choose which replacement effect to apply first, be it Hardened Scales or Winding Constrictor, and since the other is still applicable, it is then applied as well.

Also, Epochalyptik is correct in "if" is not always an identifier for replacement effects, "instead" is.

Relevant rules:

614.1a Effects that use the word instead are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word instead to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.

614.5. A replacement effect doesnt invoke itself repeatedly; it gets only one opportunity to affect an event or any modified events that may replace it.

616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected objects controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).

616.1e Once the chosen effect has been applied, this process is repeated (taking into account only replacement or prevention effects that would now be applicable) until there are no more left to apply.

Errast on Is it an infinite combo?

1 day ago

Winding Constrictor and Hardened Scales both use if as part of their wording, which means they're replacement effects. To prevent infinite loops, replacement effects can only trigger once, although they will stack. So Skullbriar gets 3 counters in the end.

Catpocolypse on Ever Growing

2 days ago

Hardened Scales is a great way to circulate counters. Nissa, Voice of Zendikar will help distribute counters as well. Fungal Behemoth will be Absolutely MASSIVE late game, as in 12/12. Suspend will also help with distributing counters as well. Vigor is larger than i think you would like but basically make your creatures unkillable. Death's Presence will also help you save counters from dying creatrues.

I am a little concerned about a board wipe seeing as you have no protection from spells whatsoever. Heroic Intervention or Asceticism is again a little pricing but hardcore protection.

Some common pump or fight spells might be worth looking into also. Prey Upon is a great fight spell cause of its mana cost. There is also Giant Growth and Might of Oaks to boost creatures momentarily.

Rifthunter on Hydras

2 days ago

you could definitely use Doubling Season , Hardened Scales is alright too, Vigor Solidarity of Heroes some good ones suggested to me for my deck. Ajani, Mentor of Heroes and Ajani Steadfast are both great as well

ImtheRealBear on +1+1 Counter Deck

5 days ago

Hardened Scales is a staple for 1/1 counter decks, could help get more counters on quickly

Squirrelbacon on Reckless Revolt Zoo

5 days ago

Hello!

Looking over your list, you seem very counter influenced. Have you thought about adding in Hardened Scales and Hunger of the Howlpack?

Also, I think all zoo decks need Atarka's Command mainboard.... it's so valuable and it helps the strategy to play everything and alpha strike to end the game!

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