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Nomad Outpost Discussion
1 week ago
You run both. You want both Paradox Engine + Intruder Alarm as well as Gemhide Sliver + Manaweft Sliver + Cryptolith Rite. This lets you get your combo out as consistently as possible, plus all of these individually massively help your game plan even if you aren't comboing out with them.
I also play 5c Slivers with Overlord as the Commander.
Here are some cards I'd suggest with that experience in mind:
Descendants' Path is a great draw engine. Mirari's Wake buffs your slivers and doubles your mana. Phyrexian Reclamation lets you pull Slivers from your yard. Shared Animosity is one of the best one sided buffs you can give your Slivers. Steely Resolve for an additional way to give them all hexproof. Spirit of Resistance combos with Sliver Hivelord making it so you cannot lose the game. Konda's Banner gives +2/+2 to all slivers when attached to a 5c sliver. Vanquisher's Banner is a draw engine and buffs your slivers. Distant Melody draws a ton, Domri Rade serves many roles and is very cheap to play, Cyclonic Rift belongs in any EDH list with blue in it. Shaman of Forgotten Ways is a good ramper, helps to hit 5 colors and has a win-con attached to it. I also run a Birds of Paradise for color fixing.
This deck doesn't look to be a budget deck, except in your lands. That's okay, that's exactly how my deck is as well. Here are some good cards to make fixing 5 colors easier:
The cheaper 5c lands: Ancient Ziggurat, Cascading Cataracts, City of Brass, Command Tower, Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse + (only) 1 of each basic, Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, Mirrodin's Core, Path of Ancestry, Rupture Spire, Sliver Hive, Transguild Promenade, Gateway Plaza, Unclaimed Territory, Unknown Shores.
Running a combination of all of these means you only need 1 of each basic, and you'll have no problem hitting 5 colors asap. There are better ways to build the mana pool for 5c Slivers, but it costs thousands of dollars worth of lands.
Anyways, love what you've got going on so far. Hope your table hates playing against this deck as much as my table hates playing against mine, haha.
1 month ago
Hey, this is a good start for a budget Commander deck.
My advice before you add any other cards is to improve the manabase with budget dual lands. A 12x/12x/12x Basic land manabase is not good, it's too inconsistent which Basic lands you'll draw. As a result you'll get hands where you can't play any cards because you drew the wrong lands.
I don't recommend three/four/five color decks on a budget because manabases in Commander are typically the most expensive part of a deck and it's really crucial to have a playable manabase, but to get a playable manabase you have to be willing to spend, not a lot, but some. My advice even though you're playing three colors is to primarily play only two colors. Have 90% of the cards in the deck be these two colors and the third color can be use very sparingly, mostly just to cast Zurgo from the Command Zone.
Consider these lands:
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Nomad Outpost
- Battlefield Forge
- Caves of Koilos
- Tainted Field
- Tainted Peak
- Smoldering Marsh
- Graven Cairns
- Evolving Wilds
- Dragonskull Summit
- Isolated Chapel
Other budget cards that can help the manabase situation are mana rocks (Signets, Talismans and Rainbow rocks). These rocks can also add ramp; they do two things that's wanted here, help with mana color fixing and provide ramp.
Consider adding these rocks:
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
3 months ago
@girlyvader If you're having troubles with consistency in your mana-base there are ways too improve it, however it's not always cheap to do so. Having all 3 OG dual lands and shock lands help out a lot, but to complete the package you'll definitely want to include the other 5 fetch-lands: Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Scalding Tarn, Windswept Heath and Wooded Foothills, as these can all search for your dual lands and provide greater consistency.
That said they are still rather expensive, but there are some cheaper inclusions that I would argue fit in just as well. Those cards being the match-lands: Isolated Chapel, Dragonskull Summit, and Clifftop Retreat as well as the filter lands: Graven Cairns, Fetid Heath, and Rugged Prairie. These lands are much cheaper and have done an excellent job color fixing my deck as well as reliably entering untapped. Furthermore Ash Barrens plays excellently with getting colored mana the turn you need it and Path of Ancestry while meant to be used in tribal decks reads exactly like a second Nomad Outpost that occasionally might let you scry off your commander. Both those two lands will greatly improve your access to colored mana.
Lastly if indestructible weenies are giving you grief I'd recommend in adding Slaughter the Strong. It won't remove all the creatures but it will remove armies and big creatures as well as by-pass indestructible as this wipe forces the creatures to be sacrificed. Toxic Deluge can also work in the same manner as well.
I normally run into all kinds of problematic situations in the various play-groups I've played in, so if something is giving you problems I might know of a few good solutions for it.
3 months ago
Hmmm, I could think of a few ways to up-tune this deck if you'd like your combat phase to be a little spicier.
Archetype of Aggression has three power so it can not be recurred with your commander. Since most of your creatures have 2 power giving them trample is not the greatest keyword ability you could give them. Instead I think Goblin War Drums could give your creatures more of an edge and damage output instead.
A better card for Ashmouth Hound would be Benalish Cavalry as it has one more toughness and it decreases the blocking creature's power as well. This makes the Cavalry better as it is much more likely to survive in combat unlike the Hound.
Attended Knight is alright, but a stronger inclusion would be Blade Splicer as it puts more power on the board for the same mana, and if the Splicer dies, recurring it multiple times produces bigger tokens than the Knight.
Battle-Mad Ronin can be a 3/3 for 2 mana, but when it's not blacked it doesn't do a lot of damage to your opponent, and sometimes you are forced to attack with it when it would not be preferable to do so. War-Name Aspirant would be more preferable, as you get a 3/2 with an added ability that makes it harder for your opponent to block it. It also doesn't have to attack each turn so you can use it to block if needed.
Capashen Knight is alright, but if you're short on mana to pump into him he can be rather ineffective. A reasonable replacement would be Knight of Grace which should easily be a 3/2 first strike if you or another player have a black card or creature on the battlefield. Having a constant 3-power first strike creature would be the equivalent of paying 4 mana into the Capashen Knight every turn. Plus the Knight of Grace has one more toughness and hexproof from black so it's much harder to remove as well.
Kiln Walker is a standard 3 mana 3/3, but a better card to run would be Nighthowler as having just 3 creatures in any graveyard makes it just as big all the time rather than when only attacking. In commander graveyards tend to fill up fast so the Howler will always be larger and larger as the game drags on.
Paragon of Fierce Defiance, Paragon of New Dawns, and Paragon of Open Graves do provide anthem effects, but since their anthems are limited by color of creatures you won't always get the paragon you need to buff up your whole team. Instead I would recommend running Angel of Invention, Ravos, Soultender, and Drana, Liberator of Malakir as they all can pump up your creatures regardless of color restrictions.
Rogue's Gloves does provide card draw, however; you may enjoy Mask of Memory more as the equip cost is cheaper, and drawing two cards then discarding one card can be more advantageous than drawing just one card.
Legion's Initiative only really buffs the attack of half your creatures which can be not as helpful if you don't have any red creatures out besides your commander. Leonin Sun Standard may prove better as it can pump all your creatures multiple times if needed.
Orcish Oriflamme can provide increased attack power for your creatures, but it's nowhere near as good as Glory of Warfare which provides more attack power, and it also provides more toughness when you need blockers.
You might also want to touch up on your mana-base a bit. Path of Ancestry works exactly like Nomad Outpost as it produces the same colors, but you can also scry with your commander off it. Command Tower and Ash Barrens also provide excellent mana fixing that you might want to look into. Other lands you may want to consider obtaining would be Wind-Scarred Crag, Tainted Peak, Isolated Chapel, Clifftop Retreat, Graven Cairns, Fetid Heath, and Rugged Prairie.
I hope you find these card suggestions useful to you.
4 months ago
Also, you need more dual lands to help paying for those extreme colored casting costs. Some cheap lands that might help: Terramorphic Expanse, Nomad Outpost, Rakdos Carnarium, Orzhov Basilica, Boros Garrison, Bloodfell Caves, Scoured Barrens, Wind-Scarred Crag, Exotic Orchard, Caves of Koilos, Battlefield Forge, Shadowblood Ridge. // Some pricier (but better) ones: Path of Ancestry, Canyon Slough, Smoldering Marsh, Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel, Clifftop Retreat, Graven Cairns, Rugged Prairie. Try to not have more than 7 lands that always enter the battefield tapped, because you're trying to play a signet at turn 2.
4 months ago
First impression of the deck is that you don't have enough lands. I would add 2-3 more. Nomad Outpost and Command Tower are both cheap, must-have tri-lands. You could also consider utility lands like Ghost Quarter and Bojuka Bog
If you are interested in another combo, Nim Deathmantle combos with your Ashnod's Altar and token producing creatures like Siege-Gang Commander for infinite death triggers/tokens/mana. Pia and Kiran Nalaar and Marionette Master are other good token makers. I think both are probably better than the Ponyback Brigade you have now.
Some cards that I think you could cut are Archfiend of Depravity, Death Denied, and Anarchist. You could also stand to trim a couple of your Alesha protecton/enablers because you don't always need one and they are poor in multiples.
4 months ago
Somehow I missed Guul Draz Assassin when searching for suitable creatures for this deck. Seems pretty cool. Another one to consider when I'm making some changes.