Fallen Ideal

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Format Legality
Vintage Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Commander 2015 Uncommon
Time Spiral Uncommon

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Fallen Ideal

Enchantment — Aura

Enchant creature

Enchanted creature has flying and "Sacrifice a creature: This creature gets +2/+1 until end of turn."

When Fallen Ideal is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return Fallen Ideal to its owner's hand.

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Fallen Ideal Discussion

TheRedGoat on Nigg, Nagg and Nogg

1 month ago

That's a fair point about land hate and milling. I've got my own Tymaret, the Murder King deck that also would suffer from self mill even with all my graveyard recursion in it, and I've also had to really struggle before with decks that target my land base. It does teach you to be able to prepare for the worst, but it is also the type of thing you'd rather not have to prepare for.

As for the Eidolon, I put it up to just be a quiet reminder that and enchantress route is oddly enough totally viable with your commander, or at least that the enchantment creatures/enchantment creature creating cards are also out there if you choose to use them.

I feel Utvara Hellkite is probably your safest choice in cutting space for Wurmcoil, but for Fallen Ideal I feel like you may want to reevaluate whether you need the redundancy of Dictate of Erebos or From Beyond. If nothing else I can see the eldrazi pooper being replaced by say Bitterblossom, or some other faster token producer. Or a reanimation effect like Nim Deathmantle or Victimize.

NV_1980 on Nigg, Nagg and Nogg

1 month ago

Thanks again for your comments :)

I'm not sure this deck would survive self-milling that well; I think my Meren deck is better suited for that. Meren is actually in this deck too, but not as a commander.

Fallen Ideal and Wurmcoil Engine are really well suited to my playstyle; definitely going to see what I can replace them with. Not sure about Eidolon of Blossoms, it's ok and my deck has quite a few enchantments to make it worth it but, ... I dunno. Will think on this.

As for the land destruction, my playgroup frowns in this a lot; which is why almost none of my decks has the means to destroy them. Believe me, I've been tempted ... I actually have Crucible of Worlds :):)

TheRedGoat on Nigg, Nagg and Nogg

1 month ago

Well, for non-creature recursion there's mostly singleton effects like that of Treasured Find, or Nyx Weaver and Deadbridge Chant if you don't mind heavy self milling. The other thing is that there are a lot of useful enchantments that you could abuse that recur themselves.

Spreading Algae would be a weaker one to use, but you've also got access to Aspect of Mongoose and Fallen Ideal.

Otherwise, I can only say that you could run more creatures that are themselves multiple creature types like Wurmcoil Engine or Eidolon of Blossoms.

There is another thing that I would feel is missing from your deck and that is land stax effects and hand disruption. It would be a difficult thing to work with in regards to keeping the deck moderately fun to play against, but the deck itself would be much stronger if you had ways to stall your opponents lands/hands along with any other permanents you're already destroying. Just a few good ones can really slow down the opponents game. I mean, you're in Jund, so why not use Destructive Flow? Wait a week or two and you'll have Crucible of Worlds on a stick to play around with. Or just run Groundskeeper.

PANDASrevenge on wip edh golgari deck

1 month ago

Sylvan Caryatid one of the best mana dorks in the game, and underutilized as well. Fallen Ideal is a great Aura for this deck.Exile into Darkness can help you deal with opponents creatures and get some triggers for a Mortician Beetle that NEEDS to be in this kind of deck, Bone Splinters, it's a tragedy that Falkenrath Noble isn't in here. If you can tell me what the decks are you are planning to be playing with i can help offer some counters to those decks, i would put more focus on sacrifice and reanimation.

Sicohippy on GhoulCaller Gisa (First EDH Deck)

2 months ago

Welcome to EDH, my personal favourite format, and my personal favourite commander, Ghoulcaller Gisa!

I absolutely love this general because you can make whatever you want from her, I see all kinds of different takes on the deck.

If you need sacrificial fodder, definitely add Phyrexian Dreadnought, Phyrexian Soulgorger, and Waning Wurm

Kokusho, the Evening Star is great to sacrifice, just go ahead and heal yourself based on other's life totals

to buff your zombies, I see you have added Coat of Arms, don't ever remove this, its probably your strongest synergy.Zombie Master, Corpse Harvester, Unbreathing Horde are all good to continue this growth effect.

Stoneforge Masterwork, Fallen Ideal to double your zombies

Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Increasing Ambition, Beseech the Queen, Demonic Collusion are all good options for tutors, I think you ought to include atleast 2 more, maybe 3 depending on how combo-y/ synergistic you want to make this deck.

Attrition, Grave Pact, Smokestack, Magus of the Abyss, Pox and other stax cards of the like to tax your opponents for creatures while you can easily upkeep the cost.

Rise of the Dark Realms is sometimes a win con, other reanimation effects include Sheoldred, Whispering One, Dutiful Return, Dread Return, Death Denied and ESPECIALLY Hell's Caretaker, love this guy...

I could go all day with suggestions, shes really a canvas in terms of generals, you can do just about anything you want to do that is under the spectrum of black, by all means, completely ignore every suggestion I have made, this is a good deck as it stands for multiplayer already.

I hope this helps as a resource though in case you want to take it one direction or the other.

ALSO...

remember that Ghoulcaller Gisa's ability doesn't have to be used on your turn, so its important to only use it when you absolutely have to, unless your zombies have haste, that is... but remember that the zombies usually don't have haste and they need to wait a turn to be used, so you can wait until the end of an opponents turn, or the beginning of another's or even respond to effects on the stack with her ability.

I hope this helps! Cheers!

Polupus on Advertise your MODERN deck!

4 months ago

I need some more perspectives on this:

Which is best in this monoblack budget aggro deck?

Nighthowler vs Grafted Wargear vs Fallen Ideal


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Nighthowler: great synergy with Golgari Thug, makes deck more susceptible to graveyard hate, but more resilient to removal, triggers heroic, threat in itself, can ramp quickly with no card loss, but doesn't provide a sac outlet.

Grafted Wargear: buffs earlier and provides free sorcery speed sac outlet, lack of artifact recursion makes it susceptible to removal/accidental dredge and runs into artifact hate like Stony Silence and Pithing Needle, 1 time cost for free buffs the rest of the game.

Fallen Ideal: built in recursion, free instant speed sac outlet, passive evasion, dodges Pithing Needle, triggers heroic, but doesn't give permabuff and only does at expense of other creatures.

ksbaker1989 on Help me tweak it before ...

4 months ago

I've tried to write an essay for the advice I have for this deck three times already. I'm on an old tablet that can't handle many things, so I've given up. I'm hoping you can guess my reasoning through card suggestion only.

Consider removing:

Desecration Elemental, Hissing Iguanar, Jund Battlemage, Mogg War Marshal, Rot Shambler or Scavenger Drake, Claws of Gix, Bone Splinters, Curse of the Cabal or Grave Pact, Dragon Fodder, Fallen Ideal, Fists of Ironwood, and From Beyond UNLESS you decide to add an eldrazi with annihilator.

Consider adding:

Playsets of Thoughtpicker Witch, Reassembling Skeleton, Rot Shambler if you chose it over the Drake, Act of Treason and possibly a functionally similar card which I forget the name of.

Myr Servitor, Gravecrawler, Gravedigger, Blood Artist or Falkenrath Noble, and your favorite 1 or 2 drop discard spell, Thoughtseize or Duress come to mind.

GoldenDiggle on Anowon's Ritual

4 months ago

Hey! I think this deck looks fun! My favorite thing to do in black is sac.

I think that you could make good use of an Ashnod's Altar. It's nice to dump into an Exsanguinate, Tenacious Dead and Reassembling Skeleton can be sac'd as many times as you have , Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief and Dark Impostor make great use of the ability with pacts out.

I think that Yahenni, Undying Partisan is a perfect fit in this deck as well. Things die and (s)he can sac them.

Fallen Ideal kicks a lot of butt, and ends the game with a pact. Not to mention it recurs itself.

Deck looks good! +1!

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