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Duel Commander | Legal |
Gladiator | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Historic | Legal |
Historic Brawl | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Pauper | Legal |
Pauper Duel Commander | Legal |
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Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Live Fast
Sorcery
You draw 2 cards, lose 2 life, and get EE (two energy counters)
TitaniumTP on K'rrick Kobain and his Monster Mash
4 years ago
Let's get down to business, shall we?
DELETE THIS
Venser's Journal , Mindcrank , Armillary Sphere , Dash Hopes , Doomblade, Street Wraith , Leshrac's Sigil ,
QUESTIONABLE
Noosegraf Mob , Phyrexian Reclamation , Kaya's Ghostform , Blood Tribute , Whip of Erebos , Armillary Sphere , Reiver Demon , Pestilence Demon , Magus of the Mirror , Endling , Bloodthirsty Aerialist
At first glance these are what I think you should delete and think about deleting.
COMBO TIME
I notice that you have combo potential with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . The only 2 card combo with him is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion . All other combos with him require 4 pieces.
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The man (zombie?) himself: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
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Sac outlet - Viscera Seer , - Ashnod's Altar , - Carrion Feeder ,
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The Sacrifice (something with persist, or that can somehow remove the +1/+1 counter from Mikaeus, the Unhallowed ) - Lesser Masticore , - Putrid Goblin , - Skinrender if you put the 3 -1/-1 counters on itself each time it enters, - Puppeteer Clique , - Lingering Tormentor ,
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ALL THESE TRIGGERS - Bitter Ordeal for infinite exiling of decks, - Falkenrath Noble for infinite damage, - Vindictive Vampire for infinite damage, - Zulaport Cutthroat for infinite damage, - Vengeful Dead for infinite damage, only if sacrificed creature is a zombie, - Blood Artist for infinite damage, - Pitiless Plunderer for infinite mana, - Pawn of Ulamog for infinite colorless mana, - Deathgreeter for infinite life, - Smothering Abomination for infinite card draw,
MORE COMBO
You also have the 3 piece combo of
- Sanguine Bond
- Exquisite Blood
- Anything that either causes you to gain life, or an opponent to lose life - Leechridden Swamp , - Ebony Charm , - Death Cultist , - Nightmare's Thirst
I recommend using instant speed interaction for the 3rd piece of the combo, so you can respond to removal by winning
If you decide to follow The Way of The Combo, you should also add library searching effectz to help make sure you always find your pieces.
LIBRARY SEARCHIN EFFECTZ
Expedition Map for finding lands for ramp, or combo pieces if you go for the aforementioned Leechridden Swamp combo Scheming Symmetry , Behold the Beyond , Demonic Collusion , Diabolic Tutor , Final Parting , Mastermind's Acquisition , Doomsday , Demonic Collusion , Dark Petition
The more combo and storm heavy your deck is, the more search library cards you will want to add.
EXTORT OP
Basilica Screecher , Thrull Parasite , Syndicate Enforcer
Nothing much to add here, but extort is so broken in this deck. Extort will be extra powerful in storm builds.
Okay, it's Mana Time
COOL LANDS
Castle Locthwain , swamp with benefits, Thespian's Stage , can become a copy of other dank lands like Temple of the False God and Cabal Stronghold , Crystal Vein , pop it on the turn where you're going to try and win, Westvale Abbey Flip, potential wincon, Leechridden Swamp , potential combo piece and also fun to use with leftover mana, Bottomless Vault , probably sucks but you could use it in a storm deck, Memorial to Folly , Mortuary Mire , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , ramp that looks like a land
Mana Rocks
Cryptolith Fragment Flip probably not good, Thran Dynamo , super epic, Hedron Archive , Prismatic Lens , Fractured Powerstone , you know you want this for the planeschase ability, Sisay's Ring , Ur-Golem's Eye , Liliana of the Dark Realms , Nirkana Revenant , Paradise Plume , Magus of the Coffers , Black Market
For mana rocks you want the best bang for your buck, since you can just pay life instead of {B}. I like the mana rocks that cost {4} but tap for {2}, and the ones that cost {2} and tap for {1}. The more control heavy your deck is, the more rocks you want.
Ramp
Wayfarer's Bauble , Burnished Hart
Lots of Mana Fast
Cabal Ritual , Bubbling Muck , Spoils of Evil , Culling the Weak , Sacrifice , Dark Ritual , Songs of the Damned
Getting giant bursts of mana is good in any mono Black deck, but you should invest more heavily the more combo and storm themed your deck is, since you want to pop off in a single turn and cast 1,000 spells.
Investments
Basal Sliver , Blood Pet , Bog Witch , Overeager Apprentice , Basal Thrull , Priest of Yawgmoth , Blood Vassal , Soldevi Adnate
A lot of these cards that are single time use mana sources would be great in a storm deck where you would just build up your load until you bust damage all over the faces of those unfortunate enough to be within 50m of you. They're also good in reanimation decks, which could utilize Phyrexian Reclamation to keep getting them back.
Summary:
The more control heavy your deck is, the more mana rocks you want. If you're going for combos then you want more quick mana. The only land I'm gonna have to 100% recommend is Thespian's Stage . Keep in mind that the more nonbasic lands you have in your deck, the less useful cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold will be.
TRIBAL
Zombie Tribal
Corpse Harvester , library search, Cemetery Reaper , lord, Undead Warchief , epic lord, Josu Vess, Lich Knight , wincon, Endless Ranks of the Dead , wincon, Death Baron , lord, Liliana's Mastery , lord, Graveborn Muse , card draw, Zombie Master , protection, Graf Harvest , team evasion, Fleshbag Marauder , saccy, Phyrexian Delver , recovery, Cryptbreaker , card draw, Lord of the Accursed , lord, Shepherd of Rot , hurty everyone, Stronghold Assassin , funny removal, Loyal Subordinate , Liliana, Death's Majesty , potential finisher, Grave Titan , Open the Graves , board wipe protection, especially good if you're going all in on creature aggro, Curse of Disturbance , Awaken the Erstwhile , once you're in an advantageous position just cast this and watch your opponents cry, Tombstone Stairwell , this would be especially epic if you have cards to buff your boys, Risen Executioner , lord
Some cards that could be spicy in zombie tribal. Epic combos would be lords such as Cemetery Reaper and Lord of the Accursed , and fatties such as Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight . Having tons of zombies also combos with Pontiff of Blight . I think that Eldrazi Monument in a zombie build is nightmare fuel.
Vampire Tribal
Sanctum Seeker , Kalastria Highborn , Blade of the Bloodchief , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch , Bloodline Keeper Flip, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Nirkana Revenant , Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Sadistic Skymarcher , Defiant Bloodlord , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Butcher of Malakir , Cordial Vampire , Bloodtracker ,
If you decide vampire tribal is better, here are some options. I would only play cards like Blood Tribute if you're going vampire tribal, I don't think it's worth to play unless you can get more value than just chopping 1 player's life in half.
To Go with Your Creature Spam, Sir...
Dowsing Dagger Flip, Mask of Memory , Necropolis Regent , Bloodforged Battle-Axe , Explorer's Scope , Throne of the God-Pharaoh , Whip of Erebos
Buff My Team!
Sword of the Paruns , Intimidation , Death Pit Offering , Eldrazi Monument , Obelisk of Urd
Summary:
The more of one tribe you have, the more synergy you have. Only include lords if you're all in on that tribe.
REMOVAL
Targeted Removal
Hero's Downfall , Vraska's Contempt , Murder , Murderous Rider , Noxious Gearhulk , Malicious Affliction , New Blood , Ruinous Path , Tendrils of Corruption , Bone Splinters , Liturgy of Blood
Epic Board Wipes
Decree of Pain , Crux of Fate , Kindred Dominance , Bontu's Last Reckoning , Do or Die , Hellfire , Necromantic Selection
Summary: Use more board wipes the more control heavy you want your deck to be. Try to choose targeted removal such that the end cost will only be {1} and some life, so that it will be as cheap as possible. This is especially important in storm builds. Since we play multiplayer quite a bit, you'll probably want to add extra board wipes, especially the ones that draw you cards or come bundled with reanimation.
Wow, I Hate Minorities
Wow, I hate tokens
Ritual of Soot , Force of Despair
Wow, Green is Cancer
Wow, I hate when other people play spells
Wow, I hate when other people attack me
No Mercy , Dread , Koskun Falls
Wow, I hate myself
Season of the Witch (okay, maybe not that much Revenge of Ravens )
Wow, I hate lifegain
Wow, I hate real board wipes
Sudden Spoiling , Mutilate , Languish , Massacre Girl , Golden Demise
Wow, I hate burst damage
Wow, I hate my opponents having creatures
Dictate of Erebos , Grave Pact , Butcher of Malakir
Wow, I hate this one person in particular
Curse of Vengeance , Trespasser's Curse , Curse of Fool's Wisdom
Lifegain
Profane Memento , Crypt Incursion , Vampiric Link , Loxodon Warhammer , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Cavalier of Night , Whip of Erebos
Protection
Benefit from Death
Ogre Slumlord , Shadows of the Past
Cool Card Draw
Moonlight Bargain , Promise of Power , Succumb to Temptation , Ransack the Lab , Infernal Contract , Necrologia , Carnival of Souls , Grim Haruspex , Night's Whisper , Succumb to Temptation , Phyrexian Etchings , Cruel Bargain , Dark Deal , Foreboding Fruit , Live Fast , Painful Lesson , Necropotence
Add more card draw the more stormy you want your deck to be. Also try to add ones that will cost the least amount of mana if you take your commander's ability into account.
Card Draw Requiring Sacrifice
Altar's Reap , Costly Plunder , Morbid Curiosity , Bankrupt in Blood , Skulltap , Merciless Resolve
These will be better in decks where you're sure you'll have tons of creatures. So adding these into zombie tribal would probably be a good idea, since you have things like Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight that produce a million tokens.
Storm Build Cards
Aphotic Wisps , Cremate , Succumb to Temptation , Yawgmoth's Will , Ill-Gotten Gains , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Skirge Familiar , Rain of Filth , Dredge , Gravebind , Nighthaze , Street Wraith
The idea of a storm deck is to cast as many spells in one turn as possible, building up a fat storm counter to execute all who oppose us with our 3 finishers, which are Aetherflux Reservoir , Tendrils of Agony and perhaps Empty the Pits . You'll want lots of cheap spells that only cost {B} mana and replace themselves, such as Aphotic Wisps . One time use mana is also dank here, such as Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual , and creatures like Basal Thrull and Soldevi Adnate .
Win Cons to think about
- Thieving Amalgam , epic value over time (a 2/2 on each opponent's upkeep),
- Sorin Markov , there health becomes 10,
- Army of the Damned , lots of zombies,
- Josu Vess, Lich Knight , lots of zombies,
- Grave Betrayal , steal everyone's creatures, good in control builds with lots of board wipes,
- Pestilence , add it,
- Revel in Riches , also good in control builds with lots of board wipes,
- Aetherflux Reservoir , storm/combo builds,
- Tendrils of Agony , storm,
- Empty the Pits , storm,
- Pontiff of Blight , use in creature heavy builds, like zombie tribal,
- Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Putrid Goblin + Ashnod's Altar + Blood Artist combo ,
- Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion combo
Pal00ka on
5 years ago
2 ways I would build SG on a budget:
Zombie token makers ( Liliana's Reaver ) + Zombie Token lords ( Eternal Skylord ) + kill spells ( Go for the Throat ); since SG makes zombie tokens you can kill an opponent's best creature, reanimate it, and it will get buffed. You will proactively make zombies for offense/defense while reactively killing problem creatures and turning them into your minions.
Strong enter-the-battlefield trigger creatures ( Plaguecrafter ) + Arcane Adaptation + kill spells ( Murder ); since SG makes a token of the exiled creature, being able to get a second trigger is great. With AA you obviously name "zombies" and now all your creatures boost SG' upkeep trigger. You are controlling opponents through your creatures entering the battlefield while, again, you are using kill spells to get rid of threatening creatures you want to turn into zombies.
2 other viable routes, though less 'zombie,' are discard via spells ( Syphon Mind ) and creatures ( Liliana's Specter ) to which you reanimate creatures your opponents' discard & mill via creatures ( Consuming Aberration ) and spells ( Mind Grind ).
You chose a lot of good zombies but I would ask whether they are good enough that you would reanimate? While SG promotes creatures, I would not forget about relevant zombie-focused spells. Ex. Apprentice Necromancer is cute but I would cut it for Cemetery Recruitment since it draws a card too or Ghoulcaller's Chant which grabs 2 back.
I would add more card advantage ( Ambition's Cost , Ancient Craving , Live Fast ) and ramp ( Mind Stone , Dimir Cluestone , Seer's Lantern ). I would shoot 10+ sources of each because nothing is less fun than not being able to cast your spells and top-decking.
A fun interaction to go with zombies, many of your 'each opponent loses a life', and free sacrifice outlets is Metallic Mimic + Putrid Goblin for infinite damage.
The inclusion of Paradox Haze is a great idea!
channelfireball12345 on Licia, First Sword of the Mardu {Primer}
5 years ago
Morbid Curiosity is not very strong; I'd replace it with any of the following: Night's Whisper Live Fast Painful Truths
rdean14 on Card creation challenge
5 years ago
Yeah
White gets draw from some incidental spells like Wall of Omens , from specific requirements, like Aura/Enchantment, Equipment/Artifacts, Sram, Senior Edificer , Puresteel Paladin , Mesa Enchantress , Kor Spiritdancer , Dawn of Hope , but also has just plain hate, like Spirit of the Labyrinth and Alms Collector .
Blue obviously has just plain card draw.
Black pays life for cards Underworld Connections , Blood Scrivener , Necropotence , Phyrexian Arena , Sign in Blood , Live Fast , Read the Bones , or Cruel Bargain . You can also Sacrifice Creatures for Cards.
Red gets cards for limited time, Experimental Frenzy , or it comes with Discard Wheel of Fortune Faithless Looting , or Burning Inquiry .
Green is already flush with cards similar to yours, Primordial Sage , Soul of the Harvest , Selvala, Heart of the Wilds for example.
Shinwizzles on Marchesa, the Black Rose EDH: Steal Yo Gurl!
5 years ago
blazestudios23, thanks for the suggestions! Card draw can be tricky when trying to balance the other themes of the decks. Have you tried adding something like Smothering Abomination ? Adding cards like Altar's Reap , Bankrupt in Blood , Costly Plunder , Live Fast , and Sign in Blood are all pretty swell. If you're feeling like being generous, Seizan, Perverter of Truth is great, since he spreads the love and the cards.
Mana is solved through the use of handy trinkets like Ashnod's Altar , Phyrexian Altar , and the signets. Maybe I'm just extremely lucky, but the number of games that I've been mana-screwed has been pretty low. Palinchron could be added in for kicks, if you're hurting for mana.
My hesitation with Black Market is that it takes a while for it to get up and running, and it usually gets removed before it can contribute anything remotely useful. I might add it to the sideboard, in case I'm playing another deck with a lot of creatures dying, but I don't think its inclusion would be merited by my creatures alone. Phyrexian Tower would be absolutely great if it weren't a once-a-turn kinda thing. After I tap it, either for one mana or two, it becomes a dead card until next turn.
Neheb, the Eternal makes it a little tricky to keep my opponents' life totals in check, which is necessary to make sure Marchesa, the Black Rose 's Dethrone ability triggers. Sure, the extra mana is nice, but keeping my opponents' life totals in check until I'm ready to end the game is easier done without Afflict. While Scourge of the Throne looks like it would be an awesome card, I would only consider it to be a win condition. Again, this ties into makuing sure my opponents' life totals aren't so low that I wouldn't be able to trigger Marchesa, the Black Rose 's Dethrone, which the deck is based around.
Thanks so much for your suggestions! You've definitely given me more options to consider!
Podkomorka on Cliffhaven Vampire Drain em Dry Pauper EDH
5 years ago
For the sake of saving words I'm just going to list my cuts and my adds. Then feel free to ask any questions.
Cuts: Esper Panorama, Haunted Fengraf, Rupture Spire, Transguild Promenade, Doom Blade, Invoke the Divine, Renewed Faith, Revitalize, Snuff Out, Undying Evil, Angelic Edict, Solemn Offering, Syphon Mind, Urborg Uprising, Soul Link, Guardian of the Guildpact, Kor Cartographer, Commander's Sphere, Orzhov Cluestone, Seer's Lantern, Vampire Envoy, Unhallowed Pact, Painful Lesson, Live Fast, Wayfarer's Bauble, Gray Merchant of Asphodel
Adds: Forsaken Sanctuary, Polluted Mire, Drifting Meadow, Whispersilk Cloak, Thorn of the Black Rose, Palace Sentinels, Chill to the Bone, Eyeblight's Ending, Rend Flesh, Merciless Resolve, Disturbed Burial, Grim Harvest, Afterlife, Forsake the Worldly, Journey to Nowhere, Fountain of Youth, Luxa River Shrine, Marble Chalice, Pious Kitsune, Stone Haven Medic, Tanglebloom, Fellwar Stone, Prismatic Lens, Gold Myr, Leaden Myr, Guardian Idol
Illusificate on The Very Wicked Witch ($3 and it actually works)
5 years ago
ancientskull Live Fast is literally EXACTLY what I was looking for for my sideboard, and maybe eventually mainboard. Thank you! I didn’t know it existed and I somehow didn’t pick it up going through Gatherer. The traps are 1 mana less though, and they let me sac a creature, so I do like having it. Though as you said, I have some sac outlets already and I have things that use the Energy the card gives. Thank you for the nice words and suggestion.
ancientskull on The Very Wicked Witch ($3 and it actually works)
5 years ago
I love to see people put together these combos! It's always fun when things go well.
In relation to the fact that you're running a couple of energy creatures to get sacrifice value: Have you considered going down a couple of Altar's Reap for a couple Live Fast? They give you cards, at a fairly low life cost, and also a couple of energy to spawn another Thopter. Just a thought, but since you already have some good sac outlets, I figure they may be a good replacement for the Reaps.
Anyways, I love the build! +1!
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