Creature — Vampire
Whenever another creature you control dies, Vindictive Vampire deals 1 damage to each opponent and you gain 1 life.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Vindictive Vampire Discussion
2 months ago
Jerren, Corrupted Bishop is way too costly i think.
I already run Vindictive Vampire,I might keep it with The Meathook Massacre for a sixth blood artist or remove it. I will see if I find another cut instead.
2 months ago
kirbysan I'm confident The Meathook Massacre will find a place in the deck. The lifegain triggering off opponents' creatures is incredibly strong with boardwipes, and it also seconds as a boardwipe. It won't take the spot of any of our current wipes, acting more as an additional Blood Artist, but the fact that it can be used as a wipe ups our control potential. Not sure what the best cut is, but it's certainly stronger than a few current cards in the list. I just wish it were a creature so it could proc off itself and we could fetch it with creature tutors, but at least enchantments are hard to kill.
I think you're right that Dreadhound is too expensive. Similar to Syr Konrad, the Grim, we achieve this effect by cheaper means via Blood Artist and friends, and we don't gain much from additional procs off mill.
One card I've been keeping an eye on is Adeline, Resplendent Cathar. As long as we have a piece of fodder to attack with each turn, she's pumping out 3+ tokens every turn. On a similar level to Ophiomancer, 3+ tokens on our turn every round is as good as it gets, especially since it can proc as soon as she comes town. She's also quite big for a 3 mana creature, making her hard to kill and a strong attacker early game to consistently proc her own effect. The only unfortunate thing is that the tokens have to attack, and we have to attack to create them, meaning we can't sit on them while we build our board. However, she still does a great impression of Elspeth, Sun's Champion at 3 mana.
Eloniel We're always happy to play more aggressively costed drainers, especially one with additional versatility. I find Falkenrath Noble and Vindictive Vampire are too expensive. Our 4 mana options usually do more, like Luminous Broodmoth or Elenda, the Dusk Rose providing exponential value. I could see us playing as many as 7 good 2-3 mana drainers, as I always find myself wanting more in-game.
5 months ago
Erebos, Bleak-Hearted can give you card draw and removal options.
The equipment package makes it look like there might be a Voltron sub-theme to get Elenda big and punch in. Fallen Ideal would give evasion and Dark Privilege would give protection in an aristocrats-y way. And Rogue's Passage could be a nice swap for Reliquary Tower if you're not drawing very much.
5 months ago
Thank you very much your feedback and suggestions.
I really plan to cut out Breeding Pit and Aphemia, the Cacophony , I just feel I need more token factories and those are my only possibilities right now. Ophiomancer and Bloodline Keeper Flip are brilliant cards for my deck, unfortunately I don't have money for them right now.
Ghoulcaller Gisa is a good call, but I really won't have big power creatures, I could sacrifice only 0-1-2 power creatures, and for 5 mana it's too much from a creature without ETB effects.
I don't want Glaring Spotlight and Daring Fiendbonder in my deck, since these cards are for attack support. I don't feel like attack at all with this deck. Probably all my creatures will defend my health and my PW's and they will be sacrificed before the summoning sickness wears off.
7 months ago
This looks bbn like a fun build, my only suggestions are to help reinforce the aristocrats aspect of the deck.
8 months ago
iplayBANJO provides a lot of good feedback. In many instances, I agree with the feedback provided.
I see two main items that need to be improved. First, your deck is very unfocused. Second, you don't have much interaction.
You have too many themes. It's unclear if you want to go Vampire Tribal, Aristocrats, Graveyard, Tokens, or Recursion. As a starting place for your first build, it's not a bad starting place, but we can definitely tighten up your direction. The best next step for you is to pick one theme and building around that. You can "splash" some other themes by adding utility cards like Priest of Forgotten Gods that contribute to your main theme, but dips into other themes consequentially.
I'm going to assume you're building aristocrats. For any build, it's very important to figure out your mana base. Some may disagree with me, but the utility of the mana base is one of the most important starting places when building any new deck. So for each build you make, identify at least your utility lands that support your build. Then use basic lands as place holders.
If you are running aristocrats, consider the following feedback.
Utility Lands: High Market and Phyrexian Tower . These are great sac outlets that can provide you added value. Command Beacon and Memorial to Folly are cheap utility lands that will help you avoid commander tax later in the game.
Value Engines: Take advantage of death triggers. (Death triggers are triggered abilities when a creature dies; e.g., hits the graveyard.) As the previous post discuss, you need to demand value from things dying. Ask your self the question "what value am I getting" when something dies. A few items I don't see above:
Grave Pact is great for you. With your aristocrats package out, you're generating value and removing your opponents board. It also gets around indestructible and hexproof.
Razaketh, the Foulblooded . This is an "I-Win" card in an aristocrats deck. It allows you to tutor and find answers as soon as it resolves.
Skullclamp will allow you to draw a metric butt-load of cards.
Teysa Karlov doubles the value of your death triggers.
Kokusho, the Evening Star is a great nuclear deterrent. It gives you a flyer, solid 5/5 body, and in a pinch, you can sacrifice it to get 15 life and deal out 15 damage.
Interaction refers to your ability to respond to threats at instant speed. Currently, this is very crucial weak point in your build. This partially goes back to Focusing the deck. I would recommend first picking a single theme and rebuilding around that theme. Then, as you're rebuilding, as yourself the following questions for EVERY card you add:
Does this card do something when it resolves?
Identify what value the card gives you as it resolves. There's no right or wrong answer here, but we want to know what we're getting out of the mana we spend. Is it a 1/1 body I get? Or is it a 1/1 body with a trigger of some sort?
Keep in mind. Every time a card resolves (for example a combo piece), if it doesn't give you immediate value when it resolves, it's an opportunity for your opponents to remove it. How will you protect those combo pieces from removal? Teferi's Protection , Flawless Maneuver , Cosmic Intervention .
Does this card, by itself, have synergy with my theme or commander?
With Elenda at the helm, sometimes you're just putting fodder on the field for her. And that's perfectly okay, so long as you're playing at the broader synergy. Remember, with Aristocrats, you're probably not going to win by swinging a big beefy 50/50 Elenda, the Dusk Rose at someone's face. (She doesn't even have trample.) You're most likely going to win by all the triggers from Blood Artist , Cruel Celebrant , Falkenrath Noble , Zulaport Cutthroat , Bastion of Remembrance , Syr Konrad, the Grim , and Vindictive Vampire .
What value do I want out of this card, and how many other pieces do I need to get that value?
Again. No right or wrong answer here. Sometimes, it's just fun to play a card for the hell of it. Looking at you Choice of Damnations .
What is the range of the card? (Early/Opener, Mid-Range, Late Game/Close)
Have an idea of when you plan for a card to be most impactful. Is it a card that is strong early game, mid-game, or late game? How will it impact your state or the overall board when it resolves?
My immediate recommendation is to pick a single theme. I would move away from "perfect world" value situations. This refers to those situations where you're convincing yourself of value. For example, if you want to play Card X because you'll win if you also have Card Y on the field, and Card Z in your graveyard, then I wouldn't play Card X.
Next, I wouldn't run a single combo besides the following: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion or Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista . Mikeaus by himself brings so much value to an aristocrats build. It essentially allows you to sacrifice each of your non-token creatures twice, including Elenda. With Triskelion or Walking Ballista, Mikaeus creates an infinite damage combo and wins you the game... also infinitely triggering your aristocrat triggers.
Finally, I would remove all the "lord" effects. Lord effects refer to effects that buff a certain creature type. Again, if you're running Aristocrats, you're not going to win because you have big creatures, you're going to win because you're forcing the most value from the death of your creatures.
All food for thought. Feel free to take or decline any suggestions. Happy brewing!
Dracknid10 on Orzhov
8 months ago
some options for more death payoffs