Creature — Vampire
Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
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Defiant Bloodlord Discussion
2 months ago
There's a lot of good things going on with this deck already but there's some space for growth. you have a lot of life gain going on with out a whole lot to do with it to push you towards a win condition. First thing I'd do however is try to eek every last ounce out of Gyome I could. I want to preface this by saying I'm referencing a build I'm currently working on called Living your life that utilizes a similar idea to what you're working with here.
first thing I'd do is look at creature recursion. its inevitable that you're going to lose creatures via Sac or blocking. embrace it and take advantage of what Black and Golgari is really good at which is bringing things back from your grave yard. cards like Regrowth , Nature's Spiral , Forever Young , and Gravepurge are all 2 to 3 drop cards that will bring creatures or permanents back from your grave yard for around $.25 each. another great card for this would be In Search of Greatness which lets you put a permanent onto the board during your upkeep with a CMC equal to 1 plus the highest CMC of another permanent you have.
now here is where things can get kinda spendy. Exquisite Blood is a pricey card that is the lynch pin in many 2 card infinite life gain life drain combos. it is objectively expensive and would likely be your most expensive card in this deck but would highly recommend it down the road because with it and one of the two cards above sacrificing a single food token (which can be done at instant speed) will trigger this infinite combo giving you the game win. Like I said its pricey so maybe not a purchase for now but I'd look at it for down the road
other things that would be beneficial would be cards with life link like Moldering Karok and something that can spread counters around. I am particularly a fan of Willowdusk, Essence Seer for her ability to put counters on creatures in the amount of life gain. its easy to make creatures 20/20 really fast with her and cards like Ageless Entity which adds counters to itself for the amount of life you gained. those cards both came with the precon that Gyome was packaged with but if you are getting cards from your friend these can be had for under a dollar each.
Finally, just because I like having as many win cons in a deck as I can get, Glistener Elf is a fun card to have as it deals damage in the form of poison counters. pairing it with proliferate spells or doubling spells (which can be pricey so maybe a down the line purchase) can bring a game to an end very quickly. imagine gaining 10 life, having willowdusk and glistener elf on the board with your swift foot boots equipped, putting 10 counters on glistener elf and running her through with Rogue's Passage , another card that is in the witherbloom witchcraft pre con but will only run you .40 if you don't have it, for an instant win.
Lastly get some cards in there that mess with your opponents boardstate. Black is really good at creature destruction either directly or in the form of -x/-x counters and golgari is decent at targeted permanent destruction. It takes up space in your deck but I always recommend having 3-5 creature destruction cards in my black decks and 3-5 recursion cards otherwise magic just feels like playing solitaire until you can draw a win con.
Sorry that was a lot wordier than I thought it was gonna be so if you need clarifications let me know.
2 months ago
Also, I agree with Coward_Token that WotC can avoid disrupting standard by printing such a card in either a future Commander set or the upcoming Modern Horizons 2.
2 months ago
DemonDragonJ Reducing confusion probably wasn't the only reason it was changed, but I'm sure it factored into the decision.
I could understand a creature version of Exquisite Blood , but I don't expect it to show up regularly. I count eight cards with a variant of the SB effect: Cliffhaven Vampire , Defiant Bloodlord , Dina, Soul Steeper , Epicure of Blood , Marauding Blight-Priest , Sanguine Bond , Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose , and Vizkopa Guildmage . A new EB goes infinite with all of these, with incredible redundancy.
How would you stat a creature version out? What would you expect its mana value and P/T to be?
2 months ago
legendofa, are you saying that this change was made to avoid confusion, similar to how "comes into play" was changed to "enters the battlefield" or "remove from game" was changed to "exile?"
Also, given that WotC has printed numerous creature versions of Sanguine Bond , most notably Defiant Bloodlord and Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose , it would not make sense to not print a creature version of Exquisite Blood ; also, between those two abilities, I feel that "whenever an opponent loses life, you gain that much life" makes more sense for a creature to have than does "whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life."
3 months ago
So the Witherbloom precon was so-so, IMO:
Gyome, Master Chef: I never voiced it but I predicted that the chef would be Witherbloom when I read Cram Session 's flavor text, woo. (Although I only just got the pun on that card, ironically.) Anyway, EDH tries to get caught up with the ELD Food theme, but the support is still kinda lackluster; mostly the card advantage from Savvy Hunter and Trail of Crumbs . (Can the fact that Foods are artifacts be abused in golgari?) But hey, an extra excuse for Cauldron Familiar loops in our format for the purpose of triggering people's PTSD.
Tivash, Gloom Summoner: Meh. I'm all for more Demonic presence but this seems pretty boring. Kinda like a token-producing Aetherflux Reservoir . (Also, he kinda looks like Urza, or the Raven Man.)
Yedora, Grave Gardener: Well, this is kind of an odd one. Seems more at home in the 99 than at the helm? Turns Kadena into an extra copy of Grim Haruspex . Not sure if there's a good way of abusing it. Turn random manifested cards into lands? Resurrect people with Worldgorger Dragon ?
Blossoming Bogbeast: Obvious Pathbreaker Ibex comparison; MV 1 cheaper
Marshland Bloodcaster: Fancy, but watch that MV. Ironically perhaps, itself benefits greatly from being cheated out.
Revival Experiment: One of the few sources of noncreature reanimation in these colors
Ezzaroot Channeler: Pretty much green Marshland Bloodcaster.
DemonDragonJ: Maybe the wanted to avoid having the infinitive combo with Dina, Soul Steeper from its sister set? WotC does seems to dislike EB tho, seeing as SB already got not one but two creature equivalents in Defiant Bloodlord and Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose while EB got none.
4 months ago
A bit of a long comment for you to chew some ideas over. I'm just going to throw out some cards that work for the aristocrats strategy that I think the commander would work well with. Then I'll give you some combos that could work here. Most of the combos rely heavily on white cards, so I think they are all pretty cheap. I'm sure there's a lot more that you could use, but these are the ones that come to my mind.
Aristocrat Mana Producers
Free Sacrifice Outlets
Combos with a free sacrifice outlet
Karmic Guide + Reveillark
: Karmic Guide can return Reveillark to the battlefield. Sacrifice Karmic Guide, then Reveillark. Reveillark's death trigger returns Karmic Guide to the battlefield. Karmic Guide's ETB (enters the battlefield) trigger can return Reveillark to the battlefield. Repeat forever. Reveillark can also return another small creature to the battlefield in addition to Karmic Guide.
Gift of Immortality + Sun Titan : Enchant Sun Titan with Gift of Immortality. Sacrifice Sun Titan. Gift of Immortality returns Sun Titan to the battlefield. Sun Titan's ETB trigger returns Gift of Immortality to the battlefield, attached to Sun Titan. Repeat forever.
Kaya's Ghostform + Sun Titan : Same as Gift of Immortality combo above.
Angelic Renewal + Sun Titan : Same as above.
Fiend Hunter + Sun Titan : Exile Sun Titan with Fiend Hunter's ETB. Sacrifice Fiend Hunter to return Sun Titan to the battlefield. Return Fiend Hunter to the battlefield with Sun Titan's ETB. Exile Sun Titan with Fiend Hunter's ETB. Repeat forever.
Fiend Hunter + Karmic Guide : Same as Sun Titan combo above.
Leonin Relic-Warder combos
Animate Dead + Leonin Relic-Warder
: Start with Leonin Relic-Warder in your graveyard. Play Animate Dead to bring Leonin-Relic Warder back from your graveyard. Exile Animate Dead with Leonin Relic-Warder's ETB. Leonin Relic-Warder dies to Animate Dead leaving the battlefield. Animate Dead returns to the battlefield targeting Leonin-Relic Warder. Exile Animate Dead with Leonin-Relic Warder's ETB. Repeat forever.
Dance of the Dead + Leonin Relic-Warder : Same as above.
Leonin Relic-Warder + Necromancy : Same as above.
Infinite Sacrifice Fodder
Divine Visitation + Requiem Angel
: Sacrificing a creature will trigger Requiem Angel to create a 1/1 Spirit Token. Divine Visitation causes that to instead be a 4/4 Angel Token, which can be sarificed to trigger Requiem Angel to create another 1/1 spirit that comes into play as a 4/4 Angel.
Bishop of Wings + Divine Visitation : Same as above, but you also gain 4 life each time.
5 months ago
One thing I would recommend is possibly less support cards, I know it sounds weird but with my life gain deck usually if I can get more on the board that can synergize I have better outcomes than if I'm able to counter other things. Mortify is really good for big threats and its cheap. Bloodbond Vampire Ive used in mine before and with the life gain it just gets crazy buffed and would work really well with your vampires, and finally Bolas's Citadel is absolutely amazing with life gain/drain stuff life this, its a little mana expensive but if you can get it out and play five or ten cards and still be above your starting total or even going crazy low with it to trigger abilities and possibly win the turn you play it. I really like your deck though and I took your advise with the Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose and that seems to work a lot better and same with the Defiant Bloodlord
5 months ago
I am working on a similar deck. Maybe we can help each other out.
I wouldn't run 4 Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose , I think 3 is enough for a legendary.
Defiant Bloodlord seems too expensive at 7 mana Some cards I like are Tithe Drinker and Cleric of Life's Bond , check them out.
Please comment your ideas at my deck list too!