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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
Black Market
Enchantment
Whenever a creature dies, put a charge counter on Black Market. (Is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, tokens are put into the graveyard before they cease to exist.)
At the beginning of your precombat main phase, add to your mana pool for each charge counter on Black Market.
DawnsRayofLight on
Chainer, Dementia Master
4 days ago
As someone who has played Chainer for close to a decade, I have some suggestions I would like to offer. (though everyone's decks run differently!)
34-35 lands is usually enough. I would recommend 34 with Agadeem's Awakening Flip that gives you 5 spots:
In those spots:
(Or all the expensive artifacts like Grim Monolith or what have you)
In place of:
1x Cast Down--> Lethal Scheme: This card is amazing in any reanimator list
1x Culling the Weak--> Phyrexian Altar: you need more sac outlets with some staying power
1x Dismember--> Soul Transfer: seems janky, but versatile
1x Doom Blade--> Baleful Mastery: you can hit more with it.
1x Go for the Throat--> Infernal Grasp
1x Power Word Kill--> Deadly Rollick/Altar of Dementia: for a better killspell or for a sac outlet
1x Sacrifice--> Ashnod's Altar: need more sac outlets with staying power
1x Terror--> Meteor Golem: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove
1x Victim of Night--> Karn Liberated: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove
Cruel Tutor--> Mikaeus, the Unhallowed: bonkers for some staying power, also has combo potential
Unmarked Grave--> Putrid Goblin: this or Walking Ballista are good for combos with Mikaeus. Putrid GOblin + Ashnod's Altar/Phyrexian Altar + Mikaeus = infinite mana (or sub ashnod's altar for mill).
Suggested Drops, see next list for suggested replacements
Blood Pet--> sort of an eh card, I might think of something with more oomph
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip--> I do like her, she just never did anything when I ran her.
Ruthless Technomancer: I have debated a lot adding him, in something like Korvold, he is an all-star, in chainer, he can be good, but I would almost always rather have Disciple of Bolas
Skirge Familiar: I get the reason it is in here, but there are better cards.
Black Market: It's nice, but can be too slow.
Liliana of the Dark Realms: I just have never been a big fan, she feels too lackluster.
Final Parting: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough
Sidisi, Undead Vizier: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough
Rune-Scarred Demon: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough, there also some stronger creatures to fit in the spot.
Suggestions
Archon of Cruelty: expensive mana wise but an all star.
Kokusho, the Evening Star: has been in my deck from the beginning and has flat out won me games.
Brainstealer Dragon: seems janky, but I added to just try it and it has been amazing.
Black Market Connections: You need more draw (also helps with ramp)
Phyrexian Arena: You need more draw
Bolas's Citadel: an amazing card. Wins games all the time.
Disciple of Bolas: card draw and life gain
Fell Stinger: card draw
Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed: Great for recursion
Reanimate, Liliana, Death's Majesty, Living Death. and Animate Dead: it is good to have other means of reanimation if Chainer keeps getting removed (I also suggest sac outlets to help keep your creatures from getting exiled when they spot remove Chainer)
Hope this helps! Here is my list to maybe show you how I run the list: The True Meaning of Death and Taxes
amarthaler on
EDH Vampiric Bloodlust (C17 Precon Upgrade)
1 week ago
Update!
I am looking forward to testing a new card from Dungeons & Dragons: Battle for Baldur's Gate, Black Market Connections, which will replace Black Market. Although Black Markethas always been a powerful card in this deck (amazingly its a pre-con card), I think there's massive value in throwing this cheaper CMC enchantment into the mix. First off, it still produces mana, just in the form of tokens which will stick around even if the enchantment is removed. Secondly, this deck really needs more card draw. Lastly, creating the Shapeshifter tokens counts as a Vampire, triggering everything this deck wants to do! Yes its at the cost of life, but I see life as a resource if used responsibly.
H-E-N-R-Y on
Call of Souls
2 weeks ago
I know you've got a hard time pruning but just for a deck like this I might consider Black Market instead of Smothering Tithe. It might not be the most popular move but you would be guesing more creatures would be dying than cards drawn right? And you're also not running that many instants so it might just preform better as long as we're talking longer than a 2 turn life expectancy
Epicurus on Killing by giving opponents "positive" …
2 weeks ago
Since you mentioned mana burn, there is of course Yurlok of Scorch Thrash. There are a lot of ways to abuse his ability with your own cards (I especially like Blinkmoth Urn and Belbe, Corrupted Observer with Yurlok). But there are a lot of cards that could be donated to add to his destructiveness. Braid of Fire and Black Market come to mind, but I know there's more stuff that forces you to add a ton of mana.
Also, my all-time favorite donate move is Illusions of Grandeur.
amarthaler on
EDH Sarevok, Deathbringer & Popular Entertainer
1 month ago
Palace Siege replaced with Black Market to test out the mana ramp.
amarthaler on
Daddy Eddy
2 months ago
Nice build!
I agree with rambunctiousOrator, your actual mana curve is actually pretty good. 50 total cards in your deck are 3 drops or less, which is a respectable number. If you really wanted some cheap ideas, however, perhaps Black Market, Bontu's Monument or Dark Ritual could help for black. Seething Song is a nice cheap ramp for red. If you're willing to put a few extra dollars into the deck, I'd suggest finishing out the filter lands with Graven Cairns and Rugged Prairie. Chromatic Lantern is also nice and still under $20.
Your creature count is pretty high in terms of card type ratio, and this may be an area you can cut out to add more mana ramp - but that's my personal opinion. The cool thing about your deck is a lot of the vampires are cheap, so as long as you can protect them you'd likely have a massive army on the board (with tokens from Edgar), and recover from a board wipe very quickly.
I also have an Edgar deck, which is 40% cards I added from my own collection and the other 60% is the pre-con from the 2017. Maybe it could spark some ideas for you - but keep in mind mine is designed to go wide and add +1/+1 counters.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/edh-vampiric-bloodlust-c17-precon-upgrade-1/
Masterful on
Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
2 months ago
kirbysan I hadn't considered Tenacious Underdog until you pointed it out, but he seems like a strong grindy card. The fact that you can just keep bringing him back to draw 2 cards apiece with Teysa and get continuous fodder seems good. The only problem is that 4 mana every time is a lot. I'm not confident enough to include him off the bat, but I'll keep my eye on him.
Body Count feels a bit win-more. It's not as strong as our other draw outlets that only require one sacrifice or also count as fodder. If we're getting a million death triggers in one turn, we're probably winning anyway.
Life Insurance feels worse than either Smothering Tithe or Black Market, and we're playing neither of those. I don't see room for these 4+ mana slow ramp spells. They're nice in grindy games, but we'd rather be developing cheap fodder in early turns and hopefully ending in mid-late game.
Thanks for your suggestions! I should hopefully have time to do the New Capenna deck update sometime soon, so stay tuned for that!
Nic44 Oh that's an interesting format idea! I love budget alternatives since the more accessible the game is, the better. I can see wanting Bloodsoaked Champion in the circumstances you mentioned. Good luck and have fun!
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