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|Masters 25 (A25)||Mythic Rare|
|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS)||None|
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Search your library and graveyard for five cards and remove the rest from the game. Put the chosen cards on top of your library in any order. You lose half your life, rounded up.
3 days ago
Most of the games, I tend to wait till I have all the combo pieces in hand and enought mana and then I play it all in the same turn and kill the table.
NAHS901, I was playing Doomsday in another deck of mine and found the card very risky. I would rather play Laboratory Maniac paired with Enter the Infinite or Leveler as i do in my Tatyova, Solitaire Deck
2 weeks ago
1 month ago
Hey, Goon squads like to extort and Pontiff of Blight 's extort is busted with Phyrexian mana :)
Consider moving Pontiff from the maybeboard to the main deck by cutting Ob Nixilis, Unshackled ? It's also a six drop and like Pontiff it can be a repeatable source of your opponents losing life, but unlike Pontiff your opponents have the choice to lose life to tutor. With Pontiff you control when and how much life your opponents are losing by casting spells and you also can gain a ton of life which is good with Aetherflux Reservoir .
The one thing your deck lacks is fast colorless mana from mana rocks. You want quick. Sol is great, but consider more? With the budget here Mana Vault and/or Basalt Monolith can fit. Either could replace Caged Sun and/or Tendrils of Corruption . Caged is fine, but I don't think at six mana it's needed here. Everflowing Chalice is also good because it can scale or cast it as a two drop it could replace Vampiric Link .
With only 17 creatures Crypt of Agadeem is not doing much. Consider cutting it for Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx ? Nykthos is another powerful outlet for black devotion. Gravecrawler and Carrion Feeder with Phyrexian mana is a loop to combo kill your opponents with Aetherflux Reservoir since you cast Gravecrawler from your graveyard. These two Zombies can also put a ton of counters on Krrik or Black Market . These Zombies and Aetherflux can also be part of a Doomsday pile.
Another enabler for Aetherflux with Phyrexian mana is Leshrac's Sigil since it can bounce itself back to your hand to loop cast it. It's also good with devotion as well as some hate for green. These three cards could replace Tendrils of Corruption , Exquisite Blood , Mortuary , Bloodchief Ascension . Mortuary has nice interaction with Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Bolas's Citadel , but I'm not sure that it's worth including just for this interaction.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Narset, Parter of Veils is a great way to limit your competitive opponents. Especially if you pair her with a well-timed Windfall . Ashiok, Dream Render happens to be another way to punish people for playing tutor-tribal kinds of strategies.
Another hallmark of competitive decks is their ramp, especially zero and two-mana. In your description, you say you want to stay budget -- unfortunately, that rules out about all of the good zero mana ramp. ( Mox Tantalite is bad, and Mox Amber is hardly better most of the time.) So I suggest increasing your two-mana ramp, and maybe including Ancient Tomb if at all possible to speed up their presence on the board. Some to consider: Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Dominance , Coldsteel Heart , Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone , Everflowing Chalice , Prismatic Lens , etc. None of these should be more than a few bucks.
Concerning your lands: I think you're running too many, especially if you add some of the ramp mentioned in (3). I'd cut four-ish, maybe five. Generally, once you have a few (3 - 4) lands, you'd rather have a rock and a land in hand than just two lands, since you can cast the rock without using your land-drop. I'm not sure HOW budget you want to keep this deck, but Mana Confluence and City of Brass are each around $10, and they're great in any three or more color deck. Pain lands ( Caves of Koilos , Adarkar Wastes and Underground River ) are better than your tapped lands like Sejiri Refuge , as far as I can tell.
I think a reanimation package is probably better than running Show and Tell . Show and Tell is symmetrical, and is often actively dangerous to resolve in EDH, when everyone is trying to do busted stuff. I'm much more a fan of Buried Alive and Entomb to get your fatties in the bin, and then using Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , Reanimate and/or Necromancy (which is $$$ for some reason) to get them back.
Tutors like your Demonic Tutor are good, but like zero mana rocks they tend to be pricy (see Vampiric Tutor and Enlightened Tutor ). One I do suggest is Lim-Dul's Vault , which is only a couple dollars these days. It also happens to be instant speed, which is kinda dumb-powerful, if you ask me.
Cumulative upkeep was designed to make powerful effects transient; however, Aminatou, the Fateshifter sorta changes that equation with her -1. Consider cards like Mystic Remora , which you can blink to keep around relatively indefinitely. Similar cards to consider are: Musician , Phyrexian Etchings , Tidal Control and Infernal Darkness (if you're particularly mean).
Divining Witch is interesting -- I'd actually never seen that card before. If you're trying to exile your deck and win with your Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , I think Demonic Consultation is probably a better way... though you might want to keep both. Another method (that I think is worse) is to use the card Doomsday , which is only a few dollars. The problem is that if you run Doomsday , you'd likely want to run a Doomsday -package, so you could win by just casting it and drawing into your top card... For that, I'd suggest talking to someone smarter than me, as I've never been able to get the hang of what the hell is going on with that strategy. All I know is that the package usually has something like Gitaxian Probe and Lotus Petal and ends with me being dead.
You may have good luck with card draw spells. Repeatable effects, like Phyrexian Arena and/or Dark Confidant , tend to be expensive; luckily, the spell versions are often decidedly less so. I suggest running a few or more of the following: Painful Truths , Night's Whisper , Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time (running both can be tough since delve can get in its own way), Fact or Fiction , Thirst for Knowledge , Concentrate , Chemister's Insight , Oona's Grace (questionable, due to the high mana requirement), Ancient Excavation (good with the reanimation mentioned in (5)), Archmage's Charm , Chart a Course , Syphon Mind , Deep Analysis and/or Words of Wisdom -- pay extra attention to the instants you can cast on an opponents end step. Another way to do this is simply to steal your opponents' card draw with Notion Thief or Plagiarize .
Lastly, I know its around $11 these days, but I think Counterbalance would be dumb in this deck. Using your general's +1 will let you stack whatever you want on top, which can be especially devastating if you can keep an opponent's general off the board that way.
Good luck man! Love this deck.
1 month ago
Can you explain what your Doomsday pile is for this deck? I feel like there has to be a way to win from casting Doomsday with Bolas's Citadel in play but I can't find it, I just mill myself with Sensei's Divining Top
1 month ago
drunksementhrowr take as much time as you need with replies! Real life takes priority
Labman is an extremely safe card for this deck specifically, because it aims to exploit creature based combos to fill the graveyard and the commander can act as a duplicate. That's why I preferred Lazav over another UB commander for this build. Being able to Dread Return your lab man after you copy it with Lazav adds in some serious redundancy to your win, which is a nice feeling with 3 hostile players staring you down. The move away from labman will simply need testing to see if it will work. This build with or without labman is correct either way, because I think you can make a strong case for or against it. The Doomsday brew I have (on private still sry lol) uses labman as well as Jace, Wielder of Mysteries with Demonic Consultation Tainted Pact and the unbelievably spicy Divining Witch for more direct A+B combos, and honestly they may have a place in this build.
I would definitely say this is an Ad Nauseam deck. With a single tutor in hand, it becomes a race for as a strong line to winning. Any combo piece + any tutor and you've guaranteed your winning line, and it lets you refill your hand with control and removal. Our curve is super low to fit the Ad Naus, which causes us to make sacrifices in other spots. We are primarily a layered Ad Naus list, with a value generator from the command zone. We can't guarantee advantage like Tymna the Weaver with 2-3 extra cards every turn, we don't have free tutors like Yisan, the Wanderer Bard , and we don't threaten wins with our commander alone like Najeela, the Blade-Blossom . What we DO have is both a combo enabler AND a combo finisher in the command zone. Ad Naus gives us a reachable goal at 5 mana to find a way to exploit the one card our deck always has available to play.
I really like the inclusion of the small sacrifice creatures. With infinite mana, they guarantee a win. They are pretty much the cards that replaced labman.
Cathartic adept is a spicy tech to shit on top-of-deck tutors. Vampiric Tutor Worldly Tutor Mystical Tutor Enlightened Tutor are played in almost every competitive deck that runs those colors. It hates on Sensei's Divining Top . Arguably Codex Shredder could be better here, as its online turn 1, but being a creature gives us more flexibility with Lazav. Pretty easy card to let go of for draw cards, especially if topdeck tutors aren't in your meta.
Dread Return loves Narcomoeba . The mill combos pretty much require a creature (unless you do Mesmeric + basalt monolith), so lazav + mill creature + narcomoeba would guarantee the flashback cost. Must have missed this when I removed Narcomoeba. Sorcery speed does make this a bummer, but we can always have Lazav in play before we flip so we can instant speed make a copy of labman if someone forces us to draw.
Scepter combo is extremely helpful against Cursed Totem and other creature based hate strategies. It gives us a discrete way to end the game, while being made from two cards with EXTREMELY high utility outside the winning combo, you can definitely value imprint something on Isochron early to help with favorable board state. I wouldn't recommend removing it. Any creature with the word "sacrifice" in your graveyard also means you will mill through your deck with Lazav to an outlet for a win.
I think one of the best ways to layer this deck further will be labman + pact lines. I would recommend giving those a serious consideration if you want to drop isochron + reversal. I also think adding more draw and removal is wise,
I enjoyed the anecdote! Glad to see my deck made it into the wild hahahaha! I look forward to your brewing and testing results!
1 month ago
Doomsday ing in this deck is actually kinda sketchy. you need to have another creature in a graveyard for you to win. othervise you just draw out the game
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