Creature — Zombie Warrior
When Fleshbag Marauder enters the battlefield, each player sacrifices a creature.
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Fleshbag Marauder occurrence in decks from the last year
Fleshbag Marauder Discussion
1 week ago
Idk who this Willy is, but no you.
This deck is a really a mono black build that you happen to run blue for Diregraf Captain . The way I see it you can either keep with the build you're going for, which to me seems like mono black, or you can go a much different dimir amass path with cards like Vizier of the Scorpion , Gleaming Overseer , Lazotep Plating ,
Let's assume you do mono black, then let's start with creatures. Brain Gorgers and Stromgald Crusader are garbage, Tomebound Lich is mostly used in dedicated reanimator decks, and Extremely Slow Zombie is a card from a joke set, so take those all out, along with Diregraf Captain . That's 11 out. Add 2 Murderous Rider , 3 Liliana's Reaver , 2 Undead Augur , 3 Diregraf Ghoul .
For noncreature spells, take out Negate . The best mono black removal is probably Walk the Plank . So take out Go for the Throat and Ultimate Price for 3. Gravepurge and Return from Extinction can be replaced with 3 Call of the Death-Dweller . Take out Bontu's Monument for another copy of Liliana, Untouched By Death or vise-versa. Take out Necromancer's Stockpile , I just don't think it's that good. For a five drop $1-2 slot, Open the Graves is better than Call to the Grave .
2 weeks ago
This deck seems sweet. One thing I think would make it better is taking out some of the generic staple ramp and removal and replacing it with ramp and removal that helps the decks strategy.
For the ramp, might I suggest Priest of Forgotten Gods as a great source of card advantage, removal and mana with all of your tokens. Pitiless Plunderer is also great for fueling the mana needs of decks like this, It is the single best card in my korvold deck and I'd be surprised if it didn't do work here.
For the removal there's numerous options of sackable creatures to pay off all your triggers such as Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Demon's Disciple , Shriekmaw (this feels like too many as you still want a few instant speed, no restriction pieces of removal to save you in a pinch but take your pick of your favourite).
Now for draw, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is one of the most broken cards in any aristocrats deck,it's a sac outlet, removal for small creatures and it draw hella cards, definite include if you can afford the fairly large price tag. Now there aren't that many cards that draw whenever a TOKEN creature dies but there are a few more niche ones that I'd include, Species Specialist would be good if you have alot of one particular type of token and Dark Prophecy is good if the mana base can support triple black. Also if you're worried about having enough nontokens to sac that you won't run the classics like Midnight Reaper i'd take another look at the Judith, the Scourge Diva in the list I'd also recommend the commander storm cards as they seem very cool in the list when you're repetitively casting the commander, especially the red one letting you basically recast the commander for every casting of it before. Theres also Ashnod's Altar and as another great sac outlet for the deck although idk how much you'll need when you've a guaranteed sac outlet in the command zone. If you're looking for cards to cut I'd immediately look at the instants and sorceries that are just generically good if you're planning on building solely around the back side. I'd also look at the expensive token makers such as Marionette Master and Siege-Gang Commander as those are effects you want earlier in the game. This deck seems very cool and I feel like there's a lot that can be done with it and I do love aristocrat strategies, one of the reasons black is the best colour.
2 weeks ago
I've proxied this deck and have been playing with it and it's proven super fun. I actually prefer it without tutors like you mentioned as it makes the lines of play different each game, which is something I've now applied to other decks of mine, so thanks!
Back to the deck itself, is there a reason Arcane Signet is in the maybe? If you're playing Talisman of Dominance , Signet can at least replace or be added alongside Talisman, especially since there is no requirement for colourless.
Also have you run into any issues with needing a board wipe? We probably don't care about creatures too much with the Fleshbag Marauder effects, but for anything else have you at least considered Cyclonic Rift ?
2 weeks ago
Update: Many a moon have past since i've made any tunings to the deck.
here is the minuscule change since last we talked:
Minus Basalt Monolith Add Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
Why: Basalt Monolith while goes infinite with Rings of Brighthearth , I already have an infinite mana loop set with Lotus Petal . Lili gives me better hand control and with the option of recursion. this leaves Rings on the cutting table.
Minus Agadeem's Awakening Flip Add War Room
Why: War Room is card draw plain and simple, regardless of awakening "ALSO" being a land, all im really looking for is card draw.
Minus Fleshbag Marauder Add Phyrexian Obliterator
Why: Fleshbag although the OG is the weakest of the flesh bag effects. Obliterator is an aggressive threat that demands to be dealt with or the game practically ends, is a good finisher, probably the most punishing card I could ever imagine seeing in a Tergrid deck.
3 weeks ago
Well, a good classic card for storm decks is Aetherflux Reservoir and you aren't running a Bolas's Citadel which imo is too good to pass up. Also some bombs in this deck is Endless Cockroaches , Cloudstone Curio , Ayara, First of Locthwain and Priest of Gix . Demon's Disciple and Plaguecrafter are also good cards, can't have too many Fleshbag Marauder effects.
I also enjoyed playing Painful Quandary , Smokestack , Descent into Madness Bitterblossom and Contamination when I built Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder and Tergrid, God of Fright Flip would probably fit here too.
This commander I used as a sac stax deck with a storm win con, Exsanguinate is another win con you can use for this deck.
Good luck, hope your play group keeps playing with you haha
3 weeks ago
Last couple topics,
I made an assumption and grouped Draw above Damage, and Deathtouch above Token.
Deathtouch 16%, Control 16%, Damage/Life 15%, Recursion 8%, Token 6%, Draw 6%, Discard 2%, Ramp 2%, Land 29%
Further on Card Advantage (which includes draw):
I know why your doing it and the thought process behind it, but here's an alternative perspective.
Your cards like Blood Divination , Costly Plunder , Pitiless Pontiff , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest are usually paired with LTB effect (like your damage/life and afterlife abilities), more along lines of Grave Pact (Also Dictate of Erebos , Butcher of Malakir , Dark Prophecy , Nightmare Shepherd , Etc.) or Reveillark / Academy Rector types.
The issue is Blood Divination why not Necropotence ( Greed ) for CMC1 less, and no sacrifice, let's you refill your hand anytime, Grim Haruspex /Etc. Why Spark Harvest / Bone Splinters over Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile or Mortify or even Bloodchief's Thirst / Generous Gift if your after planeswalkers.
So how are creatures getting into the graveyard, if your not sacrificing them along with other effects, a value engine!! Skullclamp is a necessity, Viscera Seer is strong, Phyrexian Altar (this card is cEDH level though), more things like Priest of Forgotten Gods & Ayara, First of Locthwain . Why sacrifice a deathtouch creature to LTB damage/life when you can Corpse Knight instead and get the value up front? Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Village Rites is ok because its CMC1 and Instant, you don't need tutor in battlecruiser/low (up to power 5), but cards like Diabolic Intent which also feed into things like Mausoleum Secrets are value. Ashnod's Altar , Doom Foretold , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , etc.
Key is value in / value out. Don't waste the value out just to enable your recursion. Value-in, Value-out, then recur. More Immortal Servitude (battlefield), less Soul Salvage (hand). Reanimate / Animate Dead (anyone's graveyards), Unburial Rites , Victimize , Agadeem's Awakening Flip, Revival / Revenge , Command the Dreadhorde , Blood for Bones .
Kinda touched on it, in previous. Control 16% is quite a bit, inline with power level. If you replace Ashen Rider , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest . Some should become the "sac outlets", like Skullclamp / Viscera Seer and some just better interactions (Instant speed whenever possible). Anguished Unmaking , Utter End , Swords to Plowshares , Merciless Eviction , Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple (Better Fleshbag Marauder unless your utilizing the Zombie part), Shriekmaw , Path to Exile , Generous Gift , Deadly Rollick , Dire Tactics , Hagra Mauling Flip, Unmake there's lots.
If you want to jump on a teams chat or anything when you have some time happy to help, just discord chat me, hopefully something that helps you focus this deck to a 4-5
3 weeks ago
Looks like a fun deck to pilot.
In reviewing the deck in it's current form, I can see a few different ways of trying to approach your problem. The first would be to double down on discard and reanimation effects to cheat the cards into play. Stuff like Winds of Change Wheel of Misfortune Wheel of Fate help filter through your deck and pair well with those other looting effects you already have. Adding in reanimation redundancy like Animate Dead could could also go.
I think the dragon...er... elephant in the room is the mana curve. Your commander incentivizes you to play big beefy dragons, but that skews your mana curve. Currently you have a LOT of low to the ground single mana producing artifacts (2cmc) and a few later game payoff ones, with the rest of your curve being around the 4-6 CMC. Another way to approach the mana problem is to double down on the big boy ramping artifacts, like Gilded Lotus . Then pair it Voltaic Key and Manifold Key so when it's online, you could actually hard cast some of those late game dragons!
The way mentioned above addresses the mana production head on. It'd also help if you paired some of this with some early game disruption to prevent opponents from getting ahead TOO quickly so you can't catch up. Cards like Mind Twist and Rakdos's Return can be backbreaking when ramped into early, shutting down the scariest player and allowing you to catchup with your dragons. Along those same lines, Torment of Hailfire is another staple big mana sink card to close games (though honestly, your dragons seem like they don't need that much help!) In a multiplayer game, cards like Fleshbag Marauder , Merciless Executioner , and Plaguecrafter can be removal in the early game and make utility spot removal reanimation targets later on.
Cuts I personally struggle with as well! I'd focus on whether or not the cards further your gameplan or promote you winning. For example, in the current list Dragon Mantle feels like a win more card, despite the fact that it cantrips. Unholy Indenture also feels the same way. But you should play the cards you like!
4 weeks ago
Thank you, I appreciate your appreciation. In light of your suggestion, i'm looking at cutting Fleshbag Marauder for Phyrexian Obliterator . I've liked the idea of Mirage Mirror but I don't get what the potential value you see in it could be in? Is this perhaps similar value in mind to Profet93 and I's discussion over Vesuva and Thespian Stage? Likewise are you seeing the same similarities in Homeward Path and Guardian Beast ?