Creature — Zombie Warrior
When this enters the battlefield, each player sacrifices a creature.
|Want (2)||zemen , Serenus502|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Fleshbag Marauder Discussion
8 hours ago
He is indeed quite hard to get rid of so your opponents would require indirect/preemptive removal: Counterspell, Silence/Gideon's Intervention, Blazing Volley, Fleshbag Marauder, or any boardwipe. And green just has to hunt with combat!
1 day ago
There are some cards you might like to have a look at. savra golgari queen is very similar to Shessra. In case you want to include Fleshbag Marauder and Merciless Executioner, Revel in Riches would be even more powerful than it could be.
1 week ago
Hey, well done with the precon upgrade and very nice formated deck description. You're a good deck builder with the budget that you have, choosing the better expensive price cards (Demonic, Gravecrawler, Acererak, Cryptbreaker and Watery). If on a budget I don't think Tainted Adversary and Ebondeath, Dracolich are worth their prices.
You're very honest about the power level here, not exaggerating and saying power level 8 to make your deck seem better than it really is. Believe me, I hear this all the time, players insisting that the power level of their deck is very high while playing $100 deck with only 30 lands and Guildgates...
In the combo section of the description you don't mention Gravecrawler and it's a pretty important Zombie for combos especially with Rooftop. He needs a sac outlet with Rooftop to go infinite which all you need is Carrion Feeder. Gravecrawler is the most powerful Zombie printed because its just so damn mana efficient. He deserves his own section in the description since his interaction with Wilhert is excellent, giving you a Zombie on your turn to repeatedly sac at your end steps to draw and create a decayed Zombie for one mana.
You clearly have deck building skills, but there's some cards here that could be upgraded even on a budget. You've removed some of the better cards from the precon that can give you repeatable value especially more draw and Zombie tokens.
- Undead Augur: very good Zombie since it triggers to draw whenever a Zombie token dies.
Midnight Reaper: another source or repeatable draw when nontokens die.
Gisa and Geralf: don't underestimate how valuable it is to be able repeatedly cast even one Zombie on your turn from your graveyard. Pair Augur with Gisa/Geralf and Wilhelt to repeatedly draw two cards/create a decayed Zombie on your turns for two mana. Pair Gisa/Geralf with Fleshbag Marauder and Wilhelt to repeatedly wreck your opponents creatures for three mana and create a decayed Zombie.
Fleshbag Marauder: making all opponents have to sac a creature they control is really good in multiplayer Commander especially on a three drop Zombie who can be recurred or reanimated.
Curse of the Restless Dead: you can curse yourself to have more control over this making it a repeatable Zombie source by playing lands. Honestly, this card is better than Endless Ranks of the Dead at consistency of creating Zombies since there's no lame restriction like Ranks has and you'll have lands.
Liliana, Death's Majesty: all her loyalty abilities are good especially her -7 which is not difficult to get to and in casual it can wreck, be a game winning effect.
Some changes to consider:
- Carrion Feeder --> Rank Officer
- Undead Augur --> Eternal Skylord
- Gisa and Geralf --> Enter the God-Eternals
- Curse of the Restless Dead --> Diregraf Horde
- Midnight Reaper --> Josu Vess, Lich Knight
- Fleshbag Marauder --> Risen Executioner
- Liliana, Death's Majesty --> Icon of Ancestry
- Mystic Sanctuary --> Mistvault Bridge
Poppet Stitcher Flip is a powerful new card for Zombies and Poppet Factory is busted with Wilhert because it removes decayed from Zombies letting you repeatedly sac a decayed Zombie to create another. Fallen Ideal is an underrated gem in Commander with token strategies because it gives the enchanted creature flying and it's a sac outlet.
Enchant Wilhert and then sac your Zombie horde to attack for lethal Commander damage at an opponent. If you created a bunch of decayed Zombies potentially attack again for lethal Commander damage to another opponent on your next turn. Pair Ideal with Factory to attack for lethal Commander damage on your turn every turn.
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
your build-around creatures of Deathbonnet Sprout Flip and Heirloom Mirror Flip are both incredibly slow cards to get running, so I think you want to be aiming this deck to be something more midrange-orientated than aggro (as a lot of decks will outspeed this interaction). Luckily you're in the right colour-pair for a very interactive and midrange style deck (more on suggestions around this below).
Both Jadelight Ranger and Merfolk Branchwalker seem like really bad options here, as they don't particularly help enable anything you're doing. Some better options could be as so: Eternal Scourge feels strong here in that your build-around creatures can exile it, but then it can still be cast, and the process can be repeated, helping you in long grindy matchups. Creatures like Demon's Disciple, Fleshbag Marauder, Abyssal Gatekeeper and Plaguecrafter all seem useful too, for both providing needed interaction to slow down the opponent, while also filling your graveyard with their juicy corpses ready for consumption.
I would really, strongly, suggest against you trying to run Orcus, Prince of Undeath in this deck. Him being red is going to push you into three colours, and trying to build a 3-colour deck on a budget while still having it function isn't easy. Secondly, it just demands an insane quantity of mana. For 5 mana he'll get you back a single 1cmc creature... that's pretty lame - without dedicated ramp he's just not going to perform well. I think you have a better chance of making something viable by keeping your plan simple, and that means ditching this guy.
I think Call of the Death-Dweller is a decent card to include in the deck, but don't bother with Gruesome Menagerie. It's a LOT of mana and is probably going to cause more deck building restrictions than actually help you out.
Just brainstorming here, but something like the below feels viable to me. Your meta and/or tastes may vary (the list I've built here is with Modern-legality in mind, just because that's the format I know best. Also tried to stay with budget cards) It centralizes around the Sprout and Mirror, but also abuses creature sacrifice with Glissa to accelerate your gameplan, and get Mirrors back if needed:
2 months ago
For a first EDH deck this looks pretty good! Had all sorts of advice to give but found most of my ideas were already in this list! Nice job!
A few things I did see:
IMO you are a bit heavy on the land with your mana curve how it is. 38 lands plus 8 rocks is a lot and you will end up drawing dead cards later on. While these can be pitched to Chainer, if your commander isnt out it wont feel great. My suggestion would be to cut a few lands, maybe 4, and add in some additional draw spells such as:
In terms of removal, Bedevil would be a solid addition.
Finally a fun card to reanimate creatures could be Hell's Caretaker.
As for cards I would remove:
- Meteor Golem is pricey for what it does. While it can be recurred you do have to pay for it each time.
Thats it! Everything else looks awesome so I would have a tough time cutting things for my suggestions. lol
Hope this helps and love the deck! Best of luck!
3 months ago
Hey, you're welcome.
- Innocent Blood
- Plaguecrafter and Demon's Disciple
- Liliana's Triumph
- Vona's Hunger
- Tergrid's Shadow
- Call to the Grave
Living Death is powerful, but may be too expensive price. It's mass sacrifice for all players creatures and it's also mass reanimation for each player of any creatures that where in that players graveyard before you cast Living.
Black has some board wipes, unfortunately the better cards are not budget options, but here's a few that are.
- Life's Finale : also puts any three creatures of your choice from one opponent's library into their graveyard to embalm them with Scarab.
- Deadly Tempest : also does damage to each player.
- Crux of Fate : if there's no problematic Dragons then choose all nonDragon creatures.
Some more situational budget board wipes:
3 months ago
Hey, sac outlets that cost no mana to activate are overall better than ones that cost mana. 3 mana to sac one creature and draw one card is a lot. Your Teneb deck is better than the other one so I will focus on that one.
Altar of Dementia gives you repeatable self-mill and/or opponent mill and being able to choose either one is versatile. Currently you're only using the strategy of reanimating your opponent's creatures with Teneb, but by adding self-mill such as Altar then you can abuse Teneb other ways by reanimating your own creatures.
Plaguecrafter , Demon's Disciple and Fleshbag Marauder can do work as sac outlets since they make all your opponents sac a creature, if they have one. They can sac themselves which gets them into your graveyard to reanimate and potentially repeat.
4 months ago
This was hard, extremely so: this was very nearly sixteen commanders. Black is well-suited to stand alone, and there are so, so many good choices that I’ve developed a newfound respect for anyone who tries to top ten black. This is almost my favorite color, and while it may be limited in dealing with anything not a creature, graveyard, or a card in hand, good GOD can it deal. All the tutors, all the kill spells, creatures of the night, what music… Sorry, it’s easy to go full Dracula in this area of the pie. In summary, I’ve a lot more to say on this subject than the colors we’ve already covered. However, as always in this project, the point is to celebrate three thematic elements, not drool over all the ludicrous power in this necrotic slice of the pie. Today we’re limiting ourselves to three pervading archetypes: life, death, and graveyard manipulation.
White is a respectable powerhouse in this arena, but black takes center stage with undeniably better style. Whereas white just gains it, playing black means treating your life total as just one more resource to use, abuse, and exploit. Vampirism, folks, and not the glittery sort either. Cruel, properly thirsty vampirism, all about chugging opponents like cheap beer. And if you enjoy masochistic chicaneries that trade life for cards, removal, mana, and eventually victory, look no further.
This guy. This glorious, ludicrous guy. General damage? Check. Lifelink? Check. Game-warping mechanic? Great big ol’ hissing, honking, ball-biting check. A peak, high performance example of boom/bust gameplay. Just be sure to draw as many cards as you can and pray that you find quality lifegain to patch the holes you’ll be blowing in yourself.
Here’s the thing: in mono-black, whenever you gain life it’s at someone else’s expense. An effect that doubles said expense? Please and thank you. board wide Lifelink? Also yes. Throw down some grunts, swipe right, and watch your peanut gallery of jerks like the Blood Artist heckle opponents to death.
You know what’s a great defense, command damage notwithstanding? A huge life total. This is partly why red struggles in EDH: hard to beat down someone with piles of life and a few choice defensive options. In some ways it’s just as hard to vampire them to death. You know who doesn’t care? Erebos. Old Erebos is singularly unimpressed by new Heliod’s jank, and happy to sweeten the deal with reliable draw for a modest fee of mana and life.
The past few years have seen respectable creature removal cropping up even in blue and green. White has oodles of fantastic board wipes, and red can hose everything down with direct damage. But compared to black, they’re all posers. Shrinking creatures, sacrifice and discard are all primarily black stables. Toxic Deluge laughs at your indestructible legions. Grave Pact is amused by your shroud, and will bury you in it. This is the color of Go for the Throat, Diabolic Edict, and Tragic Slip. When black comes for your minions, you better have a mountain of solutions, otherwise the only way to save said minions is to take them off the field yourself.
Spoiler alert: three of the Kamigawa ascendants are going to feature in these articles, and Kuon is the meanest (since the blue one got banned, anyway). I speak from gleefully shameless experience here. For the low, low price of three creatures and a modest downpayment of another every turn, black sacrifice stax can be yours. Add fun things like Magus of the Abyss, Dread Return, and Fleshbag Marauder and all his rude, rude cousins. Trust me on this: Kuon is, if you’ll pardon the pun, enchantingly nasty.
Very few things like boardwipes. However, provided they’ve had a snack first, Yahenni likes them just fine. An affordable commander with a sac outlet (indestructibility on a stick :D) who actively rewards slaughtering anything that could block? Sold! Throw in Fallen Ideal. You won’t be sorry.
In my last article I referred to blue as the heavyweight champion of yoink, but that’s not to say there aren’t other colors in the ring. Forcing opponents to sacrifice creatures and discard cards are both black staples, and boy howdy does Tergrid reward such misbehavior (though the adorable Tinybones, Trinket Thief may be more a discard fiend's speed). If tokens aren’t in the local meta, this will change that.
Green shares a bit of this glory: there’s a pervasive theme in green of both exiling and returning cards to the hand from there. BUT… Black is still the unequivocal graveyard color, leaving the charge in both filling and emptying it, especially of creatures and onto the field. Bojuka Bog. Animate Dead. Living Death. Green may have some good tricks here, but few so dirty as an Entomb followed by Reanimate. So, so dirty. I saw it only once, but it was a turn two Terastodon. Once was enough.
Reanimator decks got you down? Here’s a bone, friends. Stealing your opponent’s guys is one thing. Exiling said guys when their owners wipe your stolen board is another. Chainer doesn’t like choices. Chainer likes it all. And Chainer, above all else, loves to break your opponent’s heads with their own toys.
Convinced I like Kamigawa yet? I used to play this janky beast in a standard spirit deck. These days, my thoughts run first to a big pile of Shadowborn Apostle and assorted demons, but that’s just the easy first on the list of tricksy things up Shirei’s sleeve. Again, Blood Artist and friends. Again, deeply unhappy opponents.
Here’s horror for you. Anyone who doesn’t admit to a healthy bout of nervousness when this guy hits the field is a liar (or playing Orbs of Warding). Coming or going, yours or theirs, killed or milled or discarded, if the graveyard is involved then the good syr gets his ping. Have yourself a time with any number of silly combos and tactics: your opponents are guaranteed a Tortured Existence.
And, for my personal favorite...
I ran Marrow-Gnawer for a time, but offloaded it when I realized that I was bored by the deck. A few years later I built Kuon, who quickly became infamous in my playgroup. However, aspects of the deck that I particularly enjoyed were better served when I switched to this villainous wench. With a decent draw effect (especially with Thornbite Staff) and an imminently breakable ping engine, Ayara is BRUTAL with proper support. Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder. Army of the Damned. And the game-winning monstrosity itself, Plague of Vermin. Revel in countless bodies to exploit as only black can and watch your opponents die of Ayara’s approval.
That's it for this round. Thoughts and questions are welcome. I hope you enjoyed it, and will come back next week for Red!