Marchesa, the Black Rose

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard

Dethrone *(Whenever this creature attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, put a +1/+1 counter on it.) *

Other creatures you control have dethrone.

Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it dies, return that card to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of the next end step. (Dying is being put into the graveyard from the battlefield. Tokens cease to exist when they are put in the graveyard.)

Combos

• Marchesa, the Black Rose + Thalakos Deceiver
• Fleshbag Marauder + Marchesa, the Black Rose + Unspeakable Symbol

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

legendofa on Help me to build a …

5 days ago

Here's a few idea pitches off the top of my head:

Marchesa, the Black Rose or Don Andres, the Renegade theft: survives removal and board wipes easily, saltiness depends on how much your pod likes having their stuff taken away

Xavier Sal, Infested Captain combo: non-infinite combo options like Intruder Alarm or Corpsejack Menace, generally low salt

Yarok, the Desecrated blink value: lots of directions to build in, plenty of control options

That Rona, Tolarian Obliterator  ^Flip combo I mentioned: dump your deck for {B} per card

Vren, the Relentless sacrifice: wants lots of removal, flexible win con

If one of those looks interesting, go ahead and use it as a base.

Leathable on Inalla - A New Foe Has appeared

1 month ago

Hi NV_1980,

thanks for the feedback. Yes, you are correct, I built the deck with solely those win conditions in mind - getting them somewhat low with Impact Tremors, Terror of the Peaks, Anathemancer and so on, and then finish them with Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire. I'd like to Note, that these spells are not strictly one-use, since i can get them back with Archaeomancer and Kess, Dissident Mage / copy them using Dualcaster Mage (perhaps in combination with Harmonic Prodigy and Naban, Dean of Iteration.

I've actually had Marchesa, the Black Rose (and Havengul Lich ) in a previous version of the Deck, but removed her, since i didn't actually want to build the deck around attacking, but using her effect to actively re-trigger ETBs is something I've not thought of. I've only used her as a means of "protecting" my creatures, not "sac" them for additional triggers. I'll add her back into the Deck, this idea synergises well with the theme of the Deck. Havengul Lich might also be worth re-adding.

As for "more powerful spells": I've thought about adding some more, but not necessarily token creations. More like in the Spirit of ToH and EX (preferably with CMC 2 or less so i can tutor them as well with Spellseeker)

NV_1980 on Inalla - A New Foe Has appeared

1 month ago

Hi,

So I play-tested this a few times. What stood out most to me is that the deck lacks a bit in win-conditions. In terms of dealing damage to the opposing side, your best bet is currently summoning wizards and their copies with Inalla and then using cards like Impact Tremors and Purphoros, God of the Forge. The other win-conditions are powerful, one-use sorceries like Exsanguinate and Torment of Hailfire. I'm not seeing much else you can do to swing games in your favor, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I would advise to add some more avenues in here that will help you win. Make combat with your wizards more feasible by adding Marchesa, the Black Rose. As long as your wizards harass the opponent with the most life, they'll return to the field even if they die during combat (which allows you to benefit from their ETB's again). Cyclone Summoner and/or Galecaster Colossus can be used to put your opponents on a massive disadvantage in terms of battlefield presence. How about using Beguiler of Wills or Havengul Lich to steal whatever you fancy on the opposing side? The deck might also benefit from a few more powerful spells (especially since you already feature several means to retrieve them, copy them, etc. Clone Legion? ExpropriateGC? Rite of Replication?

Yesterday on Profane Prince interaction with Reanimate

2 months ago

Any double-faced card has only the properties of its front face while it's anywhere other than the battlefield (or in the case of Modal Dual Faced Cards like Blex, Vexing Pest  ^Flip, the stack).

The card will go back to being Westvale Abbey while it's in the graveyard, so it can't be targeted by Reanimate.

If an effect does reanimate a DFC, it'll only reanimate it on its front side unless that effect specifically says otherwise. Crucible of Worlds and Splendid Reclamation can each bring back out the Westvale Abbey, but it will only be a Westvale Abbey. You'll need to transform it again. Same principle with triggered reanimation effects like Marchesa, the Black Rose.

The card being treated as its front face is an immediate thing that doesn't use the stack. I.E., if Ormendahl dies, there is no moment before it flips back to Westvale Abbey in the graveyard where you are able to cast Back for More to bring it back first. Likewise if Ormendahl is targeted with a Cloudshift, it'll be exiled and immediately turned front-face up again, then reenter the battlefield as Westvale Abbey.

builderboy7 on Can Marchesa, the black rose …

3 months ago

If i have a Marchesa, the Black Rose on the battlefield with a Viscera Seer on the battlefield, if I cast Ensoul Artifact targeting my opponent's Sol Ring to turn it into a 5/5 creature in addition to its other types and then cast Threaten, gaining control of the Sol Ring and attacking with the ensouled artifact and putting a +1/+1 counter on it and sacrifice it, would Marchesa, the Black Rose trigger and return the artifact to the battlefield under my control as an artifact?

Aspitxon on Marchesa, the black rose and …

5 months ago

Let's say I have both Marchesa, the Black Rose and Scroll of Fate on the battlefield and activate Scroll of faith's ability to manifest a Skullclamp. I somehow manage to put a +1/+1 counter on the manifested Skullclamp and it dies. Would Marchesa's ability trigger on the Skullclamp since it was a creature when it left the battlefield or does it need to be a creature card once in the graveyard as well?

Last_Laugh on Marchesa Black Rose + Thran …

5 months ago

Thran Vigil triggers when a creature leaves the grave from Marchesa, the Black Rose's delayed trigger. Is the returning creature a valid target for Thran Vigil's +1+1 counter?

ermd on Oops! All female! Marchesa

5 months ago

MTG arena does it with persist just like DreadKhan thought. Arena lets the player choose targets after persist trigger fully resolved. So it's possible to put +1/+1 counters an the returned creature in arena (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEL2DdeNbw) 8:15 or 10:10. There also seems to be a common agreement that Persist + Thran Vigil + any Sac outlet would go infinite.

I'm curious. Putrid Goblin's persist ability and Marchesa, the Black Rose's ability looking similar to me. Last_Laugh why do they work that different?