Guardian Idol enters the battlefield tapped.
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: Guardian Idol becomes a 2/2 Golem artifact creature until end of turn.
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Common|
|Fifth Dawn (5DN)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Guardian Idol Discussion
1 week ago
Helm of the Host goes infinite with your commander and Godo, Bandit Warlord. I know your goal is a budget deck but $10 isn't too bad for a centerpiece win condition in the grand scheme of things. I'll try to keep further recommendations budgeted though. :^)
I'd also recommend replacing a lot of your lands that come in tapped. Lands like Command Tower, Temple of the False God, Slayers' Stronghold, Rugged Prairie, and Clifftop Retreat can all come in untapped and are pretty budget options (some more than others). If those are still outside of what you're willing to spend I'd recommend just using basics instead. Generally speaking you just really don't want your lands coming in tapped.
I'd also advise you to add in more mana rocks like Sol Ring, Talisman of Conviction, Everflowing Chalice, Prismatic Lens, and Mind Stone. You also don't want your rocks to be coming in untapped, so I'd suggest you replace Guardian Idol and Star Compass with some of the rocks listed, and you could probably do the same with Traveler's Amulet and Wanderer's Twig.
Your deck is fun and fair as it is. I like it. :^) I just thought I'd try and help fix up your mana base all nice. Hope this helps!
1 month ago
You are going to need more than 12 lands. Whenever I build a deck, I always start with 40 lands and then for every 3 pieces of ramp, which for a mono black deck would be a mana rock or swamp doubler or ritual spell like Dark Ritual, I remove a land.
Please retune the deck with 12 non-land mana sources and 36 swamps for starters and you can think of non-swamp lands you want to include later.
My suggestions for those sources are any 12 of the following, depending on your budget:
Songs of the Damned
Cabal Coffers <- could replace a swamp
Pristine Talisman <- defiantly want that
After that you've got the commander, which takes up 1 card slot, so that leaves you with 51 cards to choose from.
I see the bare beginnings of either an aristocrats or a reanimator deck. In my opinion you should push more for aristocrats. It can draw you tons of cards and gain you quite a lot of life. There's no harm in keeping some reanimation spells in there though.
You want a good number of sacrifice outlets. I haven't heard of what a hard number should be so I'd shoot for at least 5. Here's a list of some that I remember off hand:
Infernal Tribute <- has a funny synergy with Spine of Ish Sah
Altar of Dementia
Disciple of Griselbrand
Lampad of Death's Vigil
For this strategy you'll need recurring creatures or token generators
Bridge from Below
Open the Graves
Blood Artist is a staple
Plunge into Darkness is something you might want for the pure lifegain of 3 per creature you sacrifice. Not sure that you want to use the "exile a bunch of your deck" too often.
Shadows of the Past
and so forth. I'd look through some already built aristocrats decks to see exactly whether you want to take that strategy.
Oh yeah, for utility lands I'd choose any of the following within your price range:
Geier Reach Sanitarium
3 months ago
Your average CMC is pretty high and you're only running 4 ramp pieces. I usually aim for 6-10 in a deck, personally. Consider Prismatic Lens, Star Compass, Marble Diamond, Wayfarer's Bauble, Guardian Idol, Coldsteel Heart, Burnished Hart, Tithe, Verge Rangers. With no budget there is always Land Tax, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault
You have a lot of really great interaction but, as you mentioned, you are low on card advantage/draw. White is obviously not great at this but you do have options. Endless Atlas, Mind's Eye, Slate of Ancestry, Staff of Nin, Sandstone Oracle, Alms Collector, Palace Jailer, Palace Sentinels, Arch of Orazca, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Bonders' Enclave, Conqueror's Galleon Flip, Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, Farsight Mask, Loreseeker's Stone. With no budget there is Sword of Fire and Ice
A Solemn Simulacrum could smooth things out too.
Mangara, the Diplomat will be a staple soon enough so maybe gun for one of those when they come out.
3 months ago
Star Compass - Dowsing Dagger Flip - Dimir Signet - Prismatic Lens - Sol Ring - Mind Stone - Hedron Archive - Sphere of the Suns - Burnished Hart - Guardian Idol - Worn Powerstone - Cloak and Dagger - Whispersilk Cloak - Prowler's Helm - Neurok Stealthsuit - Bident of Thassa - Key to the City - Rogue's Gloves - Skysovereign, Consul Flagship - Door of Destinies - Manifold Key
4 months ago
Darkshadow327: Thank you for your suggestions! I've been considering ramp spells over mana rocks for a while, but they just don't fit with any theme. I realized after playtesting with the new rocks and less tutors that I wasn't always able to execute my gameplan so I've removed all but two rocks and put in better tutors than before, cutting down on mana costs severely.
bushido_man96: So after testing, the deck couldn't always pull of my gameplan in games, which sort of defeats the point of the deck. So I decided to revert, but I kept Guardian Idol and Vessel of Endless Rest because tey represent the King Caesar statue used to summon him in the movie. The other rocks were removed for cheaper, sleeker tutors, which combats the decks slowness, and therefore it's need for ramp.
4 months ago
Burnished Hart - Star Compass - Prismatic Lens - Mind Stone - Sol Ring - Hedron Archive - Guardian Idol - Worn Powerstone - Pyromancer's Goggles - Victory Chimes - Mask of Avacyn - Whispersilk Cloak - Avarice Amulet - Cloak and Dagger - Darksteel Myr - Bomat Courier - Meteor Golem - Glaring Spotlight
5 months ago
I built this deck around the power of Crypt Rats and Pestilence. Both are powerful board sweepers and can deal massive amounts of damage to your opponent. In this deck, you should be able to repeatedly use them to control the board and help kill your opponent.
Early in the game, you want to use your removal to control the board and build up your mana. If you need to, you can use Vampiric Link on an opponent's creature early as psuedo-removal since you will gain life for each damage the creature deals. Be careful because due to the wording of this card, if the creature's attack will take your life to zero, you will lose the game before you gain the life back. (When you get a chance to sweep the board with Crypt Rats or Pestilence, you will be able to permanently remove that creature anyway.)
Guardian Idol helps you ramp into your 4 casting cost spells on turn 3 or could let you play a Crypt Rats turn 3 with mana open to activate it for 1. When you play Pestilence with Guardian Idol in play, if your opponent kills the last creature in play to try to trigger the Pestilence end of turn sacrifice, you can use two mana to activate the Guardian Idol so you won't have to sacrifice Pestilence. Tendrils of Corruption and Corrupt can be used to kill creatures, but also will keep your life total healthy.
Pristine Talisman ramps your mana as well as repeatedly gains you life so you can stay ahead of the damage race since both of you will be taking damage from Crypt Rats and Pestilence. The mana from Pristine Talisman and Guardian Idol can help you pay for the colorless mana cost of Pestilence and Crypt Rats so you keep your black mana available for immediate activation. The mana ramp artifacts also help you cast your higher cost spells earlier, Guardian Idol activations, and help pay for the flashback cost of Chainer's Edict.
If have a hand full of spells but you are having trouble finding land early on, another way to build up your mana is to use the Swampcycle ability of Twisted Abomination to search your library for a Witch's Cottage, then use the Witch's Cottage to put Twisted Abomination back on top of your library to do it again next turn. This ensures you will hit your land drops every turn for several turns.
Although I mentioned using Vampiric Link as early removal, the better use of Vampiric Link is on either Twisted Abomination or Crypt Rats. Obviously, a 5/3 regenerator will be able to keep gaining you life even if they chump block. If you put the Vampiric Link on Crypt Rats, the point is not just to gain 1 life if it deals combat damage; if you activate its "X" ability to deal X damage to all creatures and players, you gain life for ALL damage that it dealt, including to itself. This combo can result in quite a lot of lifegain if there are multiple creatures in play! When the Crypt Rats dies, you can re-use it by using Witch's Cottage to put it on top of your library.
Having a Pestilence in play with a Thorn of the Black Rose or Twisted Abomination in play lets you activate the Pestilence for two damage a turn (both on your turn and your opponents turn). This lets you kill all of your opponent's X/2 creatures without losing your Pestilence. However, keep in mind Twisted Abomination can regenerate if you want to activate Pestilence more than two times a turn. If you are ahead in life or have one or more Pristine Talisman in play to keep your life healthy, these combos can end the game quickly.