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Kindred Dominance Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, I tried to post a comment at MoxField, but it didn't work because I think the comment was too long. I kind of have a problem with long comments :)
Instead I'll post the comment about your Scarab deck here.
Nice updated version of Scarab. To answer your question because you have Phyrexian you could cut Ashnods. Although, I don't think I would since Ashnods is better than a few cards here because it's a combo piece and the ramp can help to pay for Scarab's embalm. Dementia being a win condition for opponent mill or repeatable opponent mill throughout the game is nice, but it's dangerous as self-mill enabler because you risk milling nonZombie combo pieces which you currently can't reanimate or recur. Honestly, I would play all three of the combo artifact sac outlets because of so much self-mill you don't have control of.
Because of self-mill Academy Ruins would be worth including to recur Phyrexian or save Phyrexian when in graveyard from being exiled. Since it's a land it doesn't take a valuable deck spot for this effect. One of the main reasons to play Phyrexian Reclamation is it can save creatures especially Gravecrawler and Wonder at instant speed from being exiled by graveyard hate which can be a big problem. Mystic Sanctuary is helpful since it's an Island for Wonder and as a bonus it can potentially recur an instant or sorcery which is good with self-mill.
- Ashnod's Altar --> Necromantic Selection
- Academy Ruins --> Temple of the False God
- Phyrexian Reclamation --> Training Grounds
- Mystic Sanctuary --> 1x Island
Temple of the False God is not a good land here because without Urborg it's unable to tap for mana until your turn five or six and that's if you make all your land drops. Necromantic Selection is a high CMC card that you don't really need because you have Kindred Dominance which is the same mana cost, but more powerful board wipe effect especially with Zombie tokens.
Training Grounds can be a powerful card for combos, but it's not doing that here therefore it doesn't do enough only affecting three creatures: Scarab, Cryptbreaker, Accursed. I don't think it's worth taking a deck spot for Grounds just to reduce the cost of Scarab or be able to reduced cost of activated abilities of opponent's creature you may embalm. Ashnods mimics what Grounds does by sacing a creature you make two colorless which can be used to help to pay, better yet to cast or activate anything else.
By increasing your budget then you could add other black tutors and more tutors are very helpful when you want an artifact to combo. Diabolic Intent and/or Profane Tutor are two more two drop tutors to consider adding. Consider more tutors that can get Wonder or Gravecrawler such as Entomb or Unmarked Grave ?
Shambling Ghast is a new one drop Zombie for combo with Rooftop + Havengul because when it dies it creates a treasure. With any sac outlet such as more convenient Carrion Feeder Ghast mimics Phyrexian Altar . With Rooftop, Feeder + Ghast can replace Phyrexian and being able to remove one nonZombie combo piece from the combo with Havengul is a huge upgrade. Ghast + Phyrexian combos with Havengul without needing Rooftop for infinite casts/dies/leave graveyard of Ghast which can make Havengul combo faster not needing six drop Rooftop.
- Shambling Ghast --> Solemn Simulacrum
Acererak the Archlich is another new Zombie for combo with Rooftop since you don't have to enter Tomb of Annihilation dungeon instead you can enter one of the other two dungeons which results in bouncing Acererak back to your hand to cast again for free and repeat. Instead of venturing into Annihilation you can enter one of the other two dungeons and go to their rooms for value as many times equal to cards you have in your library. Lost Mine of Phandelver has Dark Pool room which as long as you have more cards in your library than each opponent has life can be a true win condition.
The way the Dungeons work is once you have completed one you can then right away venture back into that same dungeon again which lets you repeatedly enter Phandelver and it's rooms. In this combo with Phandelver each card in your library equals in order: 1 scry, 1 treasure, gain 1 life and each opponent loses 1 life, draw a card, that's powerful. Storeroom room instead of Dark Pool room can make Scarab huge for a big Commander damage attack.
Acererak the Archlich --> Loyal Subordinate
Pair Gravecrawler with a sac outlet such as Feeder and it's ability to leave your graveyard with Tormod, the Desecrator for another repeatable Zombie token source to create a 2/2 Zombie for one black mana as many times as black mana you have to really fuel Scarab's upkeep trigger. This combo makes infinite tapped 2/2 Zombies with Phyrexian + Gravecrawler that forces an opponent to wrath the board or you win at your next upkeep. Tormod also triggers when you embalm your own creatures with Scarab.
- Tormod, the Desecrator --> Overseer of the Damned
Zombie Master is a Zombie evasion source, pair it with Urborg. Wonder will be a target for graveyard hate when it's in your graveyard therefore having other evasion sources especially from a Zombie is helpful.
- Zombie Master --> Liliana's Mastery
1 week ago
1 month ago
Tinnuki Thank you! I definitely will! Love seeing what others do with their decks with commanders I also use.
I totally forgot about Stolen by the Fae , have a few copies of it too. I think I might have had it in this deck way back when I first built it but took it out because the deck was running too slow. A lot of the tap lands have been replaced so I think it's time it can go back in again. Coat of Arms is a card I'm currently borrowing from my partner for my Bat Tribal deck (which badly needs it more lol), but eventually I will get a copy of that for both Bats and Faeries. :)
Kindred Dominance and Kindred Discovery would be amazing additions, hopefully they get some reprints soon! Pretty much any time lately I've been spending more on a card (anything $10-20+) I've been trying to get various desired reserve list cards knocked off the list first (which I am really glad I did for Liege of the Hollows and Deranged Hermit for a different deck because those spiked like mad recently).
Faerie Tauntings could come out to be honest, I had it in here since it was a cheap enchantment that would trigger Alela's ability and because it was on theme. Unless Vedalken Orrery is out, it really doesn't do much.
Thanks again for so many suggestions! It's quite helpful to have another pair of eyes for a fresh perspective, much appreciated!
1 month ago
Cool Faerie tribal! I have a faerie-based Alela deck as well, although mine is much more of an enchantress deck than yours is. Feel free to check it out!
Couple suggestions: I think you'd enjoy Stolen by the Fae for some easy tokens, and some more tribal glue like Coat of Arms (or perhaps Kindred Dominance or Kindred Discovery if your budget will allow it) would be nasty in a deck like this.
One question though, as cool of a card Faerie Tauntings is, I feel like you don't have enough instants or flash cards to truly take advantage of it. Am I just not seeing a secret synergy somewhere?
1 month ago
I play Aphemia in my 99 in my Ramses Overdark EDH deck. I've been really impressed with the incremental value she can create over the course of the game.
One particular synergy I liked with her was using enchantments on the opponent's creatures, then destroying them for additional benefits.
Something like Casting of Bones could allow you to refuel your hand and potentially put two enchantments into the graveyard.
Yoke of the Damned is good along the same lines. It will pretty consistently kill the creature within one turn cycle, especially if you have some spare zombies and a political ally. Seal of Doom is more convenient, but is more expensive and hits less creatures.
Nighthowler is excellent for your deck. It has been one of my main win conditions. It's even better when you play it on Aphemia since she has evasion and can one-shot someone easily with the Nighthowler and Commander Damage.
I would include a few more ways to kill creatures, including spot removal and board wipes. Kindred Dominance seems great for you. Extinguish All Hope conveniently spares your commander and many of your creatures.
1 month ago
I've been playing elves for some time in both commander and modern, so I was excited to see Lathril spoiled. If I didn't already have a tricked out Ezuri, Renegade Leader deck I'd definitely be building this, because the only thing better than playing mono-green elves is playing green-black elves! I am a bit surprised that you are missing some elf staples such as Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Wood Elves , Elves of Deep Shadow , Farhaven Elf , and Springbloom Druid . These cards may seem boring, but they give you incredible acceleration, and you can also definitely justify dropping your land count a bit because they'll ramp you early and grab your lands for you from your deck. You also really don't need any of the mana rocks other than Sol Ring , they don't synergize with elves' game plan. I'd also heartily recommend Elvish Guidance , and an often-overlooked card that turns one of your existing lands into a Gaea's Cradle but which costs less than a dollar in real-world money. Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip does this as well, but it is more well-known and more expensive. For board wipes I'd recommend Kindred Dominance , which blows everyone else's stuff away while leaving yours intact, and Ezuri's Predation , which was recently re-printed and is now pretty cheap to pick up, as it will likewise leave your elves intact while giving you a bunch of tokens and destroying most of your opponent's stuff. I'd also commend your inclusion of the fabulous new card Haunting Voyage . This card is sheer gold for tribal decks in black!
2 months ago
2 months ago
Cards that I don't think are that strong and some replacement recommendations:
Must include lands: (maybe go up to 38 lands) Reliquary Tower
Other good/fun cards you should consider: Sol Ring (must have for commander)
Feed the Swarm (for the enchantment removal)
Bident of Thassa (good cards draw for small evasive creature decks)
Rhystic Study (annoy opponents/great card draw)
Torment of Hailfire (You should keep this one in, great finisher)
Murderous Cut (cheap removal)
Dismember (cheap removal)