: Add to your mana pool.
, , Pay 1 life: Put a 1/1 white and black Human Cleric creature token onto the battlefield.
, , Sacrifice five creatures: Transform Westvale Abbey, then untap it.
|Want (2)||Metachemist , SaltyCaptain|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Westvale Abbey occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.07%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
WB (Orzhov): 0.89%
Westvale Abbey Discussion
1 day ago
Massacre Wurm and Sheoldred, Whispering One are nice cards for some removal that you can replay. Sheoldred is also nice cause its pretty much having two merens. I enjoy the massacre wurm cause it can also be another way you can win the game.
Pernicious Deed is one of the best boardwipes in the game.
These should be good for you
1 week ago
Have a Similar Demon worship/human sacrifice with some extra synergies. Basically, it generates small tokens to feed the demons, but also generates huge flyers. Starting with 2x Ravenous Demon Flip and 3x Demon of Catastrophes, cheap and lethal, just because you can get short of tokens. 2 copies of Rite of Belzenlok, wich generates creatures to sacrifice and at the third turn since you cast cast it, generates a huge flying 6/6 Demon token with trample. My main token generator creatures are 4 copies of Doomed Traveler and 2 copies of Thraben Doomsayer. I use 2x Skirsdag Flayer as a crature removal wich at the same time triggers Skirsdag High Priest ability (4 copies). Which is great. Tokens generators spells:3x Lingering Souls, 4x Gather the Townsfolk, 2xPromise of Bunrei, 1x Increasing Devotion.Some more synergies: 2 copies of Teysa Karlov, witch doubles tokens when Doomed Traveler dies, also giving vigilance and lifelink to ALL you tokens, including the demons generated from Rite of Belzenlok and Skirsdag High Priest, which is pretty solid. The rest of the Deck includes removals: 2x Bone Splinters, 4x Mortify. 2x Altar's Reap also feed the Sacrifice/Trigger mechanism giving extra cards. 2x Westvale Abbey Flip for flavour and, of course, a 9/9 flying, lifelink, Indestructible hasted finisher!
2 weeks ago
Cabal Coffers is another good land in a straight black deck with lots of swamps.
2 weeks ago
Haha Rat-ck, as it shall now be called, seems like an interesting idea maybe for another time.
So I guess my question now is what to take out/cut down on.
I put in 4 Barren Moor and threw in 2 Westvale Abbey Flip just in case. Not sure if Oketra's Monument can fit in the deck but it would be rather interesting to get double the creatures out in order to keep feeding Ayara, First of Locthwain and maybe Priest of Forgotten Gods as well if I am in a bit of trouble.
I like all these cards you have suggested, and I greatly appreciate the help.
The logistics are going to be difficult.
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the comment.
Very True, I did not think about taking Gnat Miser out as, like you said, is very situational.
I definitely like Changeling Outcast moving Throat Slitter to the mainboard might work after that change and adding Okiba-Gang Shinobi may help with discard as well. If that seems viable I really like Waste Not because of that mana and card ramp. I just need to figure out what is going to be taken out. Icon of Ancestry seems good, but im not sure how well it will fit if I am going more towards discard now.
How do you like Ayara, First of Locthwain (even though it is not a rat) as well as Piper of the Swarm and Nezumi Shortfang? I think the quickness of this combo can really come in handy. Create rat > gain 1 life/deal 1 point > sac rat > draw a card. All of that for 2 mana then having damage continue every turn they do not have cards in hand. (i.e. sort of like The Rack)
Thank you again for the feedback and suggestions. I made a could of changes accordingly.
3 weeks ago
I love tribal decks! So +1 from me. And some ideas too: Champion of the Parish - perfect for Humans. The same about Adaptive Automaton and Metallic Mimic. Why don't you also add Judith, the Scourge Diva? Please take a look at Shanna, Sisay's Legacy, Hanweir Militia Captain Flip (it is great with Westvale Abbey Flip) and Recruiter of the Guard. Have fun and good luck!
3 weeks ago
Most of these don't have abilities though, so maybe a vampire tribal restriction is in order like you mentioned on the second ability?
It also depend on the product it's going to be in. Commander? Cut the deathtouch and ship it as is, I think you could get away with it. Standard? Needs a little more toning down. Modern Horizons 2? Somewhere in between.
3 weeks ago
magwaaf, I could possibly cut the 2x Liliana's Mastery for more Fatal Push, but I haven't yet found the need. Dark Salvation works significantly better in most cases. On that note, Dark Salvation is superior to Fatal Push in a deck like this. There are exceptions, but few of them. Dark Salvation doesn't have the CMC limitations of Fatal Push and it can hit indestructible creatures-- and it can often be cast for a single mana. It's just better in a zombie deck.
Cutting Cryptbreaker would not be a good move! That's the card draw engine that makes this deck work! Were it not for Cryptbreaker, this deck wouldn't be any good, to be honest. It needs that card draw engine to keep looking for cards, and it greatly benefits from the ability to generate zombies if we're flooding out with lands. When we can be aggressive we're usually winning anyway and we don't use Cryptbreaker's abilities. When there's board stall or it is unwise to attack, Cryptbreaker is the card that generates advantage.
Dark Salvation vs Grasp of Darkness-- you do realize that Dark Salvation may be cast for only a single if I have zombies on board, right? Grasp of Darkness is a great card, but it is generally inferior (in this zombie tribal deck) to Dark Salvation.
Mutavault would be nice, but I don't own any of those. Westvale Abbey Flip is great when it works, and only mediocre otherwise. You are correct that Mutavault would be better, but, alas, I don't own any and I'm too cheap to buy them.
Thank you for the suggestions!