Bitter Ordeal

Sorcery

Search target player's library for a card and remove that card from the game. Then that player shuffles his or her library.

Gravestorm (When you play this spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)

Discussion (51)

SynergyBuild on TINYBONES: TINY PUNISHER (Mono-Black Stax)

1 month ago

Pithing Needle I feel is a medium card, and Bitter Ordeal I'd need to look at. I think this deck has the ability to disrupt people's early games heavily enough as long as you don't get crushed by any early engines, you should be good.

If you can disrupt their ramp plan, they might not get to stick The Gitrog Monster before you get their main pieces (discard outlets/dredge cards) already discarded/exiled.

This is the current goal I believe. I'll playtest a more strict list than this, then tune it for what I see it should aim for. I'll comment here afterwards. Love the list!

zAzen7977 on TINYBONES: TINY PUNISHER (Mono-Black Stax)

1 month ago

Thanks SynergyBuild, I am trying to figure out ways to deal with the issues you brought up. I know this deck is weak to other black decks that utilize discarded cards and the graveyard. I made room for Nihil Spellbomb, Soul-Guide Lantern, and I’m also considering Relic of Progenitus and Sentinel Totem. I also like these cards because they can always draw me a card, even if the graveyard wiping isn’t necessary, unlike Tormod's Crypt.

The Gitrog Monster and a few other combo decks are tricky because they can’t be stopped once they go off. I included Bitter Ordeal, Praetor's Grasp, and Pithing Needle as ways of removing combo pieces like Dakmor Salvage before they can be played.

I think I’m getting closer. What do you y’all think?

DemonDragonJ on Back to the Future Sight

1 month ago

Mark Rosewater posted this article, today, in which he explains the likelihood of each of the "future shifted" cards from Future Sight ever being reprinted.

Some of his ratings do not bother me, but several do: specifically, I am very displeased that he said that Bitter Ordeal, Darksteel Garrison, and Fleshwrither were all unlikely to be reprinted, since I am very fond of all of those cards, and feel that they all have much unexplored potential.

What does everyone else say about this article? How do you feel about Rosewater's ratings of those cards? Why not reprint them in a non-standard set?

MrKillStar on B-Waste Recycling

1 month ago

Check some Shirei decks, most creatures have just 1 power, so they can sac/reanimate all the time and its pretty sick :)
Village Rites is better version of Altar's Reap
Black Market can be very good, especially if you can go crazy and put tons of counters on it.. or it just eats removal instead of some more important card in your deck.
Tortured Existence - absolutely great creature retrieval just for and can go crazy with your Desecrated Tomb. I use it in combination of Phyrexian Altar as infinite etb/etg engine. Bitter Ordeal to exile everyone's library; Emergence Zone to make it instant speed if needed.
Hell's Caretaker can be fairly good reanimator for Shirei aswell.
Crypt of Agadeem,Dark Ritual,Bubbling Muck,Songs of the Damned are cheap for mana ramp.
Mutilate is just board version of Defile, might aswell use both?
Altar of the Brood easy mill just for that triggers upon any permanent you play.
Insidious Dreams - to cast your combos from top of your library if you manage to keep Bolas's Citadel on board. Forever Young/Gravepurge for casting creatures from your graveyard (top of your library with Bolas's Citadel).
Blanket of Night if you get more non-swamp lands and you're on low budget. Its just cheaper enchantment version of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.
Call the Bloodline could be easy way to get creatures into your graveyard, get some sacrifice dork and reanimate them later.
Priest of Forgotten Gods this pretty lady could be a nice addition to Shirei aswell, if you get some cards that make sacrifice dorks/etc. blahblah

MrKillStar on The Deathly Hallows

2 months ago

Bitter Ordeal - just in case anyone survives your infinite damage ticks, so remove their entire library from the game?

MrKillStar on MoNo IsN'T aS GOoD

2 months ago

Tortured Existence for easy swap of big creatures to reanimate later for small creature to cast them again during early game.
Cards like Sadistic Sacrament, Bitter Ordeal, Nightmare Incursion, Praetor's Grasp are great for removing either important combo pieces of opponent's decks or just remove anything that could directly harm you and your plan. Peer into the Abyss could be fun aswell, also Temporal Extortion.
Fabled Passage - I dont really understand why would you use this in mono-color deck? Doesnt really seems like worth using just for another land for Urborg.
Beacon of Unrest - Really nice card to reanimate any creature or artifact.
Buried Alive, Reanimate and Entomb are just classic reanimator cards.
Blood for Bones, Victimize are also pretty decent reanimator cards.
Mortuary/Haunted Crossroads - kinda reanimator enchantments for Bolas's Citadel

For Syr Konrad, the Grim I run Tainted Strike as a sneaky finisher. All you need is a lot of creatures on board and someone just board-wiping them or I use Tortured Existence+Desecrated Tomb+Phyrexian Altar
Cavalier of Night - works both as good sac outlet and reanimator for creatures with cmc or less.
Clackbridge Troll could be worth using both as "food" for Massacre Wurm and force opponents to either sac or take damage from Troll during combat.

MrKillStar on Victory or Seppuku

2 months ago

Tarzunga - I totally understand, I have problems to cut cards in my decks aswell, even after so many changes I still keep changing cards.
Thing about Liliana of the Dark Realms is, it tighten your deck, so there is smaller chance to draw some crappy land when you dont need them anymore. Her ultimate is definetly great, but I think even if she gets removed before you pull out her ultimate, she eats some removal. Same goes for some other cards.. they are strong, can help you a lot, but opponents may waste some removal for them, so your next card can be a bit more safe.
Even if your playgroup changed infect damage from 10 to 20, infect still counts from any creature that dealt the infect damage, so every creature can deal a potentional lethal damage out of nowhere, not just commander damage.
That combo Dango mentioned is pretty decent, but Im not a fan of Reseirvoir+Sensei, even they are good cards for sure :D I actually made a different infinite combo with Bolas's Citadel, but its more derpy.
Necropotence - Depends how many discard effects you got in your deck and what your opponents are playing, but its a beast card for sure, that could easily win you the game. But Im considering to cut it out of my own deck, since it kinda breaks my important discard combo cards and replace it with some other card draw.
Oh, and I would also replace Bone Harvest for Gravepurge.
Also, Bitter Ordeal is a sorcery, yeah, so it doesnt really work with Umezawa, but it can be pretty fatal if you use it right.

I would considere cutting:
Royal Assassin - 3 cmc 1/1, requires haste or extra turn and tapped creature. Some insant removal/maybeboard card could be more useful.
Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho - I might be wrong, but it feels kinda wrong... Something like Whispersilk Cloak or Kaya's Ghostform.
Castle Locthwain - draws ONLY one card and you lose (most likely) a lot of life, since black has a lot of card draw is kinda meh. I would replace it with Emergence Zone to give your spells flash (Bitter Ordeal says hello) when you would need it.

Tarzunga on Victory or Seppuku

2 months ago

Rogue_Toaster I was re-reading your comment and man, such a shame that Bitter Ordeal is a sorcery. If it was an instant it would be a must have for sure, because I could use it after someone plays a wrath, but as a sorcery I am forced to play the wrath myself in order to take maximum potential from it... I would be kinda broken tho because I could also use as a response to a tutor...