Thran Dynamo

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Discussion (51)

Nodrog666 on Numot Stax

5 days ago

Hey man! Good first draft! I like some of the ideas in here. I have some constructive criticism for you, so, as brutally honest as I will be with my suggestions, keep in mind I’m just offering my best advice on how to improve this list. I tested this deck a bit and here’s some thoughts I have:

More Tutor / Draw: You’re running very little card advantage, which I noticed when I was testing this deck. There isn’t enough dig or deck manipulation going on here. Basically every time I found myself durdling. Here are some suggestions:

• Sensei's Divining Top
• Scroll Rack
• Crystal Ball
• Courier's Capsule
• Wheel of Fortune
• Windfall
• Stroke of Genius
• Mystic Remora
• Mulldrifter
• Ponder
• Jace Beleren
• Long-Term Plans
• Fabricate
• Land Tax
• Academy Rector
• Idyllic Tutor
• Madblind Mountain
• Fetch Lands. Literally any fetches.

More spot removal: Your deck doesn’t have a lot of ways of dealing out targeted removal. Mass Land D and other sweeper spells are great and all, but you also need ways of handling individual problems as they arrive. Here are some suggestions I have:

• Path to Exile / Swords to Plowshares
• Seal of Cleansing / Dispeller's Capsule
• Return to Dust
• Crush Contraband
• Capsize
• Boomerang
• Shattering Pulse
• Shattering Spree
• Oblation
• Chaos Warp
• Lightning Bolt
• Pongify

More Persistent harassment: You’re running MLD, Tax, but you aren’t running a whole lot of effects to consistently torment the opponent. Smokestack, Pendrell Mists, Kataki, War's Wage, Manabarbs keep pressure on your opponents. Even just running more stuff to slow things down (Winter Orb, Tangle Wire, Kismet, Rule of Law, Stranglehold etc.) would be useful here.

Consider less creatures, more enchantments: Hatebears are cool, but consider the fact that they are easier to kill than their enchantment counterparts. Magus of the Moon dies much easier than Blood Moon and you want these effects to have a good return on investment. This one is more food for thought than actual criticism.

Suggestions for cuts: Hall of Heliod's Generosity (?): It’s a great card, but right now you aren’t running enough Enchantments to justify it. Most of the time it’s going to just tap for colorless. If you run more Enchantments, it’s a keeper! (I think I’m going to try and find a slot for my own deck)

Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain: This is pretty vestigial. It’s not really pulling much weight. Cut it.

Karn, Silver Golem: See above.

Remorseful Cleric: This is too squishy. Run Tormod's Crypt instead. Just as easy to recur (moreso, in fact, cause Academy Ruins sees it) and it lowers your curve.

Tomik, Distinguished Advokist: I get what you’re going with here, but you’re blowing up your lands anyway, making them untargetable is kind of moot. There’s a bunch of hatebears I’d rather run in this slot.

Burning of Xinye / Wildfire: These are weak, you can do way better for MLD in your colors. Add Sunder (Cheaper at Instant speed!).

Saltblast: This card is kind of bad. Costs waaay too much for targeted removal. Also, is completely dead against decks that run white. I’d honestly remove this and replace it with Wrath of God instead.

Karn, the Great Creator: Not doing enough. I see the combo with Mycosynth Lattice, but Hellkite Tyrant is a much better combo.

Elspeth, Sun's Nemesis: This card isn't great. If you want Elspeth, put in Elspeth, Knight-Errant or Elspeth, Sun's Champion instead. Both make tokens as a +1 ability.

Empowered Autogenerator: Too slow, too expensive. It’s not as good as it looks. Ideally, rocks should slot into the 0-3 CC range. If you desperately wanted something in the 4 slot, why not just run Thran Dynamo instead? It’s more consistent.

Firemind Vessel – See above.

Lanzo493 on saproleenie edh

1 week ago

With Gaea's Cradle, you definitely need to run Crop Rotation. I organized your deck by converted mana cost and noticed you have quite a number of cards at 5 mana. 16 of them. But you don't have very much ramp to support it. Considering your commander cost 6, and his triggered ability costs 3, you really need to ramp hard in order to have the most successful turns. Plus, landing a big dragon on turn 4 is nothing to scoff at. You've got Selesnya Signet, Gruul Signet, and Boros Signet are good in general. Thran Dynamo and Worn Powerstone are favorites of mine if you're okay with colorless mana. For a token deck, Cryptolith Rite works wonders. I would cut down on the number of 5 mana cards. Mogg Infestation can be detrimental. Juniper Order Ranger has little impact and doesn't have great impact as time goes on. Conqueror's Pledge is just slow for your deck.

jakeyuki12 on Aurelia's Angelic crusade

1 week ago

Hiya! I've got a few suggestions from a long time Boros player.

First off, with such a high mana curve, I suggest you up your land count up another land or two. Hitting your land drop consistently turn after turn is critical in a deck with such a high mana curve.

On that note, you want all the ramp you can get. Big mana rocks are your best friend, stuff like Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone, even the new Firemind Vessel could help out. You want lots of mana, so you want your ramp to ramp you more than less.

In addition, if your plan seems to be ramp-board wipe-play big angels-win with big angels, you'll probably want some more board wipes in the deck. Winds of Abandon is my biggest recommendation. It's not cyclonic rift, but the fact that the comparison can be drawn should show you the power of it. It doubles as single target removal as well as a mass exile one sided board wipe. Day of Judgment and Cleansing Nova are other solid board-wipes.

Good luck!

jakeyuki12 on Angelic Wrath

1 week ago

Hiya! I've been playing Boros colors for a long deck and Aurelia, the Warleader is my favorite general, so hopefully I should be able to give a few good pointers.

So if I'm understanding your deck correctly, your deck seems to want to play humans early on and then play big angels later on, then smash face with Aurelia. Let me give a few initial pieces of advice that should help with that a lot.

1) Up your land count to 38 lands. If you take a look at your mana-curve, you have a lot of spells that cost 4,5,6,7 mana, so it is important to be able to make your land drop every single turn. Running only 34 lands will make that much more difficult. On that note too, you might want to run more ramp in this deck too. Sword of the Animist is an excellent piece of ramp that is pretty cheap, and then mana rocks like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone or Fellwar Stone can help you accelerate faster.

I recommend checking out some of DespairFaction's lists on Aurelia Angel Reanimator. He has built some decently solid angel-tribal aurelia decks that rely on reanimation to big out his angels faster. Particularly, his Aurelia RW Angel Reanimator deck is worth taking a look at.

Good luck! If you need help finding replacements for budget or tips for piloting Boros decks in EDH, hit me up!

DespairFaction on Aurelia's Angelic crusade

2 weeks ago

Hey, so you mentioned wanting to combine the Angel strategy with the equipment strategy. As i talked about it, its complicated because both strategies compete for your available mana. To me this means that you need to outproducing everyone at the table mana wise. See the spreadsheet link, its much cleaner. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r4BxQRmpuJOj8vWkxTC2YA9J8rvR7eXMeCM75dgUeu4/edit?usp=sharing

In: The single most important card you can add is Sword of Feast and Famine, some other really good options are Dowsing Dagger  ^Flip, Neheb, the Eternal new neheb is definintely worth testing out Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion, and I think Walking Atlas will be helpful with the 4 cards you have the dig for lands. You will also want multi producing mana rocks likes Worn Powerstone, Thran Dynamo Hedron Archive, and i think Inspiring Statuary is worth checking out as well. Other things to look at, Id probably try out Mana Geyser as it can do some riduclous stuff and it might be alright because of the life gain Treasonous Ogre. Long story short way more mana. Also, add 2 lands. Dont ever miss a land drop.

Overall your mana production count right now is 17 cards, which is good so I think it will be largely about improving the quality of those cards.

Out: Knight of the White Orchid, its fine for certain decks but feels meh for this one. Mind stone out, need multi producer, coalition relic out, trading colored mana for multi mana. Some other stuff that I would cut is Recruiter of the Guard doesnt seem right for this deck, Vandalblast youve already got Hour, Austere, and mutliple other ways to blow up artifacts, meta dependent of course.

Another thing to think about is which 7 drops you are running. The ones you have right now are very good for you. The 2 you are missing is Chancellor of the Annex and Angelic Arbiter which make it really hard for your opponents to win. Again your current picks are solid, but its the difference between good stuff for your team, or bad stuff for your opponents.

I think id also like to see 1 more piece of protection for your creatures. Lots of options here with no clear right answer. Legion's Initiative is good for a lot of things, but Eerie Interlude, Brought Back and others also have merit as well.

Ok take a look at the spreadsheet changes. Note that these changes will increase your mana curve, however it also increases your mana production by leaps and bounds. So if you things stick, you should be able to cast multiple cards around turns 6-8. If you find things are getting clunky, cut a 5-7 drop and add a 2 drop, repeat until the deck performs to your liking.

Whirlwind_2100 on Avacyn: Hope Eternal

1 month ago

so, after rigorous playtesting, I have come up with some cards to cut and add that will hopefully msk the deck better:

cuttables

• Alabaster Kirin This does absolutely nothing, has no prison effects, and is kinda useless here

• Baird, Steward of Argive His prison effect is okay, but you can definitely slot in better options for not too much more money

• Knight of Sursi Once again, just a vanilla card that doesn't do anything except get a small body on the battlefield, which isnt very good in commander, even if it is indestructible

• Misthoof Kirin Only really okay in a morph deck, this is kinda useless here

• Oreskos Explorer just a worse Land Tax

• Segovian Angel a 1/1 with vigilance has to swing 120 times to win. just a terrible card all around.

• Silver Knight Kinda bad, doesn't really do much .

• Shepherd of the Lost this would be good if it have every other creature it's abilities, but alas, it's kinda terrible, especially because I'm smelling a voltron sub-theme around Avacyn

• White Knight Unless your in a very black heavy meta, this is just bad, and is barley passable even if you have said meta

• Journey to Nowhere a worse Pacifism

• All your lands except basic plains. You need more utility lands, not just non-basics that do nothing

• Wing Shards This one is debatable, although I don't see you casting a bunch of spells and having the mana to cast this, due to the lack of ramp you have.

• Armillary Sphere bad ramp

• Traveler's Amulet bad ramp

• Orazca Relic have fun waiting 5 turns to get blessing and then only drawing one card

• Take Vengeance crappy removal

• Bishop of Wings I don't see this deck supporting an angel tribal

Potential Add-Ins

• all the Moxen, while expensive, they are amazing and can let you ramp to Avacyn as soon as turn 3

• Sol Ring amazing ramp

• Thran Dynamo amazing ramp

• Commander's Sphere great ramp

• Thalia, Guardian of Thraben super good stax/prison

• Sphere of Safety typically opponents will have to pay 3-4 for each attacking creature. brutal

• Sword of Fire and Ice really good equipment that deals with the two most problematic colors to this deck, however it's very expensive.

• Path to Exile great removal

• Blazing Archon if you're playing prison with Avacyn out, you basically can't lose

• Windborn Muse STAXXXXX

• Pacifism good removal

• Norn's Annex great way to both deter your opponents and punish them for attacking you

• Smothering Tithe you will be generating a TON of mana

• Crawlspace amazing pillow fort card

• Archangel of Tithes amazing pillow fort, and has the flavor bonus of being an angel

• Felidar Sovereign you will probably always have 40 or more life, especially with all the stax you're throwing around, so easy wincon

• Approach of the Second Sun another great wincon

• Aegis of the Gods great for not getting burned out

• Generous Gift awesome removal

• Teferi's Protection because teferi's protection

• Elixir of Immortality amazing card to clutch up with

• Thaumatic Compass  ^Flip great for late game board stall and early ramp

• Thought Vessel good ability plus some ramp

• Homeward Path great land

• Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx always great in a mono colored deck. Even better with Avacyn's triple-cost

• Maze of Ith great utility land

• Tectonic Edge great land destruction

• Field of Ruin great land destruction

Thanks so much for reading my list, and I hope this has been some help to you. My main problem with this deck was it ran too much inefficient removal and bad creatures, but once these are added in, I think the deck should be a lot for mean. Have a great day! =)

Suns_Champion on Torbran, TIME TO BURN EVERYTHING!!

1 month ago

Hey man, this is a really tight list! My suggestions are going to seem half-hearted, because there isn't a lot I would change here. All the key pieces I was looking for are already here. Well done.

I really like Torbran as a pressure and efficient boardwipe commander, so I'm glad to see both of those elements here.

Here's some cards to consider:

Immolation Shaman is another pressure card you're missing.

Satyr Firedancer is some cool tech with direct burn spells, plus the +2 damage from Torbran stacks!

Flamebreak , Slagstorm , Steam Blast are all good sweeper options to consider.

Shadowspear from the upcoming set might be awesome in here. You can target stuff and they lose indestructible. Huge.

Drakuseth, Maw of Flames is a great finisher, with Torbran he's actually dealing 9, 6, 5, and 5.

Let's talk about card advantage. If you add ANY of the cards I suggest, please let it be these.

Cavalier of Flame is a good self wheel/later damage, as well as Khorvath's Fury . Reforge the Soul is just a solid wheel and budget Wheel of Fortune. These plus the wheels/looting you already have go great with Glint-Horn Buccaneer , who's also solid on his own. Humble Defector is my second favorite magic card, and is a great political card or just combos with Homeward Path , which you already have. Tome of Legends has been finding it's way into most of my decks with low cost commanders, if you attack with Torbran you should consider it. Ignite the Future is basically Red's harmonize, and I suggest it for any red deck without blue. And since you're in one color, Endless Atlas is a solid draw engine. Finally, Light Up the Stage is an okayish little draw spell you might consider.

Here's some cards I'm not convinced by and you might consider cutting for my other suggestions.

Chandra, Awakened Inferno Emblems don't have a color, so Torbran doesn't affect then. Yeah she can wipe the board, but you can more easily do that for 1 mana instead of 6.

Electrodominance under-preformed in Neheb.

Volcanic Offering

Risk Factor / Browbeat can go for some of the better, reliable draw options.

Sundering Stroke I think is too expensive for what it does. It's hard to get 7 red without Neheb out.

By Force unless you really have to deal with artifacts every game. Add draw to get to the other removal you have faster.

Price of Glory under-preformed in Neheb, people just hold up mana rocks.

Urabrask the Hidden Haste at 5cmc is way too late. Replace with Cavalier if you really think you need it, or anything else.

Thran Dynamo this deck is hungry for red mana. I'd suggest finding a mana rock that gives red. Arcane signet maybe?

Magebane Armor is cool, but most of your sweepers don't kill your important creatures.

That's all I got for cuts, again. tight list man. Love it.

TheMazter13 on Atraxa Super Friends

1 month ago

I'd say pick better friends. When judging a planeswalker in other decks, you mainly look at the first 2 abilities and judge how protected a planeswalker is after Plus-ing or how vulnerable they are after Minus-ing and how planeswalkers can protect themselves.

Let's look at how we usually evaluate planeswalkers. Garruk, Cursed Huntsman . 5 Loyalty > Pretty Good Body that can take a bit of damage. A 0 ability isn't the best, but it makes blockers that your opponents don't want to attack into because Garruk gets bigger. -3 kills any attackers while also drawing a card. -6 Win the game with Combat Damage. We're usually going to be looking at the first and second abilities, however, as it can't be easy in all situations to get to -6

Not in Atraxa though.

The amount of loyalty that a planeswalker can get in one turn is much higher than normal, so we instead look at the Ultimates and the Second abilities mainly. A planeswalker in this deck can minus all the way and still live and generate value. Therefore, we play planeswalkers that are stronger in a vacuum

Sure, Kiora or Ajani, the Greathearted are great with creatures on the board and things to interact with, but on their own, they don't go anywhere. On the other hand, a planeswalker like Venser or Teferi may be hard to get to ultimate in a normal game but is almost a guarantee in an Atraxa deck.

For most decks, you look at how averagely the planeswalker does. For example, Jace, the Mind Sculptor . Maybe, in a game, you bounce a few things, brainstorm a couple of times, and start to fateseal. However, Jace's ultimate is very hard to get just by using his +2, so very rarely would we base his power just off that. But in Atraxa, with added proliferate, we can easily get the ultimate for Jace and basically win on the spot.

PLANESWALKERS

Ajani, Caller of the Pride - What creatures? Atraxa maybe, but what creatures will you have early in the game? 1/10

Ajani, Mentor of Heroes - Pretty OK in that it can dig for more planeswalkers. Don't play it for the Counters, you have very few creatures. Gain 100 Life would be used as a panic button, not something you should try to get to, just keep using his second ability until you find better planeswalkers. 5/10

Ajani, the Greathearted - Puts loyalty counters on things. Gives creatures vigilance, which makes them able to block and protect the planeswalkers, but there are few creatures here that block well. 6/10

Ajani Unyielding - Getting to swords something every turn is very powerful, and he digs for more planeswalker. 8/10

Ashiok, Dream Render - Why? Bojuka Bog and Scavenging Ooze are both on color here? As is Aven Mindcensor , which, if you're looking at that static ability, is WAY better because the bird can attack and has flash. It may look worse because it still lets them look at the top 4, but this is 100 card singleton, your opponents never get what they wanted. Also, the flash is super relevant because, against Ashiok, people just hold their tutors until Ashiok is gone, but the bird can come unexpectedly, basically nullifying at least 1 tutor 1/10

Jace, Arcane Strategist - Draws 1 card, but for 6 mana. Can't put counters on creatures you don't have. 1/10

Jace, Unraveler of Secrets - First ability is already good, the second one can make for some pretty good locks, and the ultimate really stalls the game and lets your other planeswalkers build loyalty. 8/10

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries - Drawing 7 cards makes for a pretty good ultimate, even if he's a little hard to cast on turn 4. Very possible to draw 7. 7/10

Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner - doesn't do anything. All your lands tap for 1 mana, don't even have Thran Dynamo or Gilded Lotus , and no big tap abilities that I see. 0/10

Liliana of the Dark Realms - The worst Liliana. It doesn't do enough since everything is tied to your Swamps. Sure with Urborg, it's good, but 1 in 98 (You can't fetch Urborg because in your library it isn't a Swamp). Play Liliana, the Last Hope because EMBLEM. 1/10

Mu Yanling - The only real good thing is the minus because you only have 2 haymakers that would want to attack. The Ultimate would be good in a creature in a creature deck because it lets you attack without blockers, but this isn't a creature deck. Also, your proliferate is not fast enough to keep up with -3 every turn. Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer is cheaper and protects herself while providing extreme endgame value. 4/10

Sorin Markov - "Oops you're dead". Sorin will always -3 on the turn he comes in obviously. However, with enough proliferate, you can Mind Slaver eventually after that. As your opponent tries to claw back, you'll be able to waste all their work. 8/10

Teferi, Temporal Archmage - Pretty good Ultimate with some card selection thrown in. 8/10

Ugin, the Ineffable - Most of your colorless spells are Ramp so static is kinda a meh. However, having played Ugin Jr., the manifest ability is quite good and provides a more interesting form of card advantage. Also, in this deck, you'll be using the -3 a lot more. 8.5/10

Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - The perfect planeswalker for this deck. A powerful ultimate that usually take ~3-4 turns can be done in 2 and can put more planeswalkers into play. 10/10

Venser, the Sojourner - Don't know what you'll be flickering, but it can just be anything for value and still probably be good. Extremely powerful ultimate; wins games. 9/10

Vraska the Unseen - Controls the board and, in this deck, wins the game a lot faster. Versatile removal with the -3, which can be used a lot more often. 9/10

In general, I don't think you have enough proliferate. You have 3 spells with the word proliferate and one of them is Atraxa. You do have a lot of cards that would work great with more proliferate that aren't planeswalkers. Doubling Season, Blightsteel, and Shalai would all work super well with more repeatable proliferate. As with most tribal decks (This is sort of just Planeswalker Tribal), you do need to find the balance between Creatures of the tribe and Tribal Boosters. For example, why play Rhystic Study or Enlightened Tutor when you can just play another Planeswalker or Proliferate card. These cards are there specifically for value, but the Planeswalkers and Proliferate cards are your value engines.

Planeswalkers are very powerful, which is why Atraxa is one of the most popular Commanders, so play more of them. Will Kenrith for value, Tamiyo, Field Researcher for value, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria for more value. Take a look at these planeswalkers to see what to play. These planeswalkers by themselves are incredible and win can easily win games. However, with Atraxa, things get even better