Liliana's Specter

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Liliana's Specter

Creature — Specter

Flying

When Liliana's Specter enters the battlefield, each opponent discards a card.

legendofa on Pattern Recognition #237 - A …

7 months ago

Peanut gallery reporting in! I've been waiting for this, and I hope I'm not being obnoxious about it.

This note isn't a criticism, but just an observation. Erosion is the only common ever printed that needs three mana of the same color, and that was back in 1995. I don't know if there's some special reason why it doesn't happen, but Fisher of the Bog caught my eye for that reason. I don't know if it needs to be power-adjusted, but maybe reduce the color density? I leave this in your capable hands.

Undying Endurance feels to me more like a variant Gift of Immortality or Fool's Demise than Undying Rage. This feels like an uncommon, since it can keeps recurring itself and the creature it was attached to. I would suggest either pushing this up to uncommon as-is or adding an additional cost to the enchantment's self-recursion.

I love the design of Warning from Beyond, and it fits with Duelist very nicely.

Cruel Lessons takes the low cost of Sign in Blood and the speed of Blood Pact and puts them together. Probably not too powerful, but worth keeping an eye on, in my opinion.

I agree that Bog-Mad Warlock's spectacle cost should be . That would make it a decent side-grade to Elderfang Disciple, Liliana's Specter, and similar cards.

Thanks for posting these articles. It's a lot of fun watching the creative process, and I hope my thoughts are helpful in some small way.

Last_Laugh on Looking for a good card …

9 months ago

Elvish Doomsayer, Noxious Toad (oracle text is each opponent), Burglar Rat, Elderfang Disciple, and Liliana's Specter are all 2-3 drops that put in their work already or do when they die.

TheoryCrafter on Any advice? (Extortion)

10 months ago

Unless you're really intent on getting one of each of Liliana and Ob Nixilis on the battlefield just to cast The Elderspell to ult one of them you're better off concentrating on the extort ability.

In order to make it more like an extort deck, you'll need more creatures. Pontiff of Blight will give all your creatures extort. Crypt Ghast will allow for some ramp. Though if Crypt Ghast is too expensive, money wise the next option to consider is Dark Ritual.

Since you have Ayara as a sacrifice engine, creatures that cause your opponent to discard when they die include, but are not limited to, Ashen-Skin Zubera and Elvish Doomsayer. Or you can cast cards such as Liliana's Specter which force discard upon entering the battlefield and sacrifice them, feeding into Blood Artist. All of this should give you some control aspects for the deck.

In which case I'd remove all copies of The Elderspell and the Planeswalkers. The 5/5 demon from Nixilis' 2nd ability and Liliana's reusable discard in her 1st ability are good but Ghastlord of Fuge is unblockable, his ability exiles instead of discard and any creatures attacking you will die anyway once they deal damage due to No Mercy, feeding into Blood Artist. Maybe cut just one copy of GoF for another small creature.

Since the affect on No Mercy is not cumulative, you should be okay to remove one.

Thank you for reading me out. I hope this helps. Happy Hunting!

Last_Laugh on Maleficent

10 months ago

Spark Double feels like it's a custom card made specifically for Marchesa. It allows you to abuse any etb/death trigger on everyone's turn instead of once per round thanks to that automatic +1+1 counter or it copies Marchesa for double Dethrone.

Vigean Graftmage = 2 free sacs every turn (itself + 1 other). This card is deceptively amazing here. Have Vigean enter first then as the 2nd enters, graft a counter onto it.

Goblin Bombardment is a sac outlet that only 2 colors can reliably deal with and it enables an infinite damage combo with Mikaeus and Glen Elendra.

Burglar Rat, Elderfang Disciple, Elvish Doomsayer, Liliana's Specter, and Noxious Toad (oracle text is each opponent) are all excellent additions to your discard theme.

Feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa to Love Them

BigChauncey on Mono Black Discard

1 year ago

I have liked Funeral Charm so much that it has gone from SB to 2 in MB to 4. It never feels like a dead card. Knock out a fairy or elf, make them discard in their draw step, or give your angler swampwalk. I liked FC and Liliana's Specter so much, I've dropped Wrench Minds to 1 in my discard deck. LP trades with most flying stuff you run into, so you generally get a 2-for-1 with it. Kinda want to bump to four but will keep at three for now. Might drop Oubliette to 2 MB, 1 SB but not sure what I want to bring in for it. Maybe 1 Crypt Rats.

It's been great. Moved Chainer's Edict to SB. Upped Cast Downs.

MrKillStar on Kaervek, the Fun Police

2 years ago

For more police fun, I suggest Sudden Spoiling (Massacre Wurm smiles even more).
For some nice recursion: Mortuary/Haunted Crossroads/Tortured Existence.
Maybe some specters to discard as "police helicopters"? :D Hypnotic Specter;Liliana's Specter;Urgoros, the Empty One;etc.
For some secret CIA fun police, you could go for Nightmare Incursion;Sadistic Sacrament;Bitter Ordeal;Praetor's Grasp perhaps even Surgical Extraction for those pesky Shadowborn Apostle/Relentless Rats/etc. decks :D

From the newer sets, you could use:
Revenge of Ravens - more protection.
Witch's Vengeance - depends on your opponent's deck.
Bone Miser - great card if you manage to discard your own cards. It is pretty much Waste Not, but it works only on yourself.
Peer into the Abyss - works great with Underworld Dreams and Price of Knowledge.

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