Creature — Giant
Whenever Grave Titan enters the battlefield or attacks, put two 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens onto the battlefield.
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Grave Titan Discussion
3 days ago
You have 6 tunr-1-castable spells. I recommend at least 8 in slower formats. In Modern, you can easily be running 16 in a higher-cmc list.
IoK and TS are by far the best reason to be in black, in the top 10 1-mana spells in Modern, and the core of black control.
You're in Mardu, and you're in control. If you're not running 4x Path 4x Push 4x Bolt you're insane.
Tibalt's Trickery in Modern is for t1 Emrakul, not a Mana Leak replacement. (see MagicAID's recent vid).
Declaration in Stone is 100% better than Divine Gambit, and it's still not worth it when Path is $3
Pyroclasm is a sideboard card. It does almost nothing maindeck. Anger is okay, but if you're running control(in Mardu) Day of Judgment or Wrath of God or Kaya's Wrath is optimal. Run a playset of your preferred 4-mana wrath.
You don't have a win condition. At all. Mogis, even if you turn him into a creature, wins on t7. That's a couple turns too slow. Seriously, Approach of the Second Sun is better at winning.
Here's some wincon ideas: Secure the Wastes, Inferno Titan, Grave Titan. Although you're not ramping, they just outvalue everything except Prime Time and, in the case of Inferno, Uro. They win incredibly quickly and can singlehandedly take you from a bad position to a win. Glorybringer is also reasonable. Chandra, ToD is not horrible either.
Smiting Helix is great spell as well.
Also, you're in control and don't have much grin capacity. Night's Whisper is sorta necessary.
2 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
@MrKillStar: Thanks for your good ideas. Burnished Hart, Feed the Swarm and Phyrexian Altar are included in this Update. I will include Thornbite Staff, Altar's Reap, Village Rites and Sol Ring in my next Update. The combo around Grave Titan and Ashnod's Altar is nice but I want to focus on the Shades. Therefore I won't include it in the Deck. Furthermore I will include Magus of the Coffers, Nirkana Revenant, Cabal Stronghold and Witch's Cottage in the Future.
1 month ago
And what about Ghoulcaller Gisa or Nim Deathmantle. She provides you with more and more go-wide creatures, each triggers with Ayara... And Nim Deathmantle an Altar can go I infinite with either Grave Titan or Wurmcoil Engine.
1 month ago
Queso_Fresco: I tested Wurmcoil, actually! My conclusion was two-fold: first, Grave Titan is generally better than Wurmcoil, but the bigger issue is that a bunch of tokens doesn't actually WIN the game. You become the threat, but you haven't generated enough tokens to kill even one player in combat -- a threat without real teeth. Doesn't go super well.
1 month ago
nice idea. +1 from me.
If have some suggestions:
- Iron Maiden is actual a metal band and with a lot of card draw in EDH it's also relevant.
- Man-o'-War is actual a metal band but is probably not good enough for the deck
- Grave Titan is actual a metal band and is goog in beating faces
- Soul Shatter sounds good and fit the game plan
- Rocky Tar Pit maybe
- Skinrender sounds pretty metal
1 month ago
Very nice. Just before I start talking about cuts and edits, I want to say that your land count is WAY too low. I usually play 35-36 lands, with about 5-10 other mana producers. Only CEDH decks run such a low land count, because they need to play fast with cards like Mana Crypt and such. Add more lands to the deck.
I will start with talking about cuts, because there are a few cards that I feel shouldn't be in the deck.
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is known for being a wincon in CEDH and strategies that want to mill themselves out. However, it's not right here. There is no real upside to adding it to the deck, so this is an obvious cut.
Thirst for Knowledge: I'm not sure why you put this one here. It doesn't work well due to you having such a low artifact count. Also, it's only a one time card draw, which isn't too good in commander. I guess Chemister's Insight goes in this section as well.
Finale of Revelation can be a good card, but it's mainly used as an infinite mana sink. I would not recommend this in a deck that doesn't go infinite and focuses on creatures.
Nyx Weaver is getting worse and worse. It has gotten to the point where it's nigh unplayable. Cut.
Clone, despite being the original clone, is considered to be one of the worst. I would definitely cut this one out.
I know Nascent Metamorph is a fun card, but people overestimate what this card can do. Don't play it in any non-chaos build.
Mirror Shield? Just don't run it.
Ok, so those are the 10 cards I would cut. Now, adding cards is a bit harder. In my suggestions for the forum for this deck, I suggested a reanimator theme, but it looked like you didn't take it, so I won't add too many cards from reanimator strategies. Also, it looks like you are working on a "budget", so I won't suggest anything over ~$20.
Just a quick note; When people are making these clone strategies, they often forget to put enough creatures to copy. This is a common deck building mistake, but something that will cost you games.
As Jimmy showed in the latest "Game Knights" episode, Solemn Simulacrum is crazy in clone decks, and seconds as ramp and card draw.
Finally, speaking about ramp, Rampant Growth is still one of the best ramp cards in the game.
Now, you may have noticed I only suggested 5 cards when I cut 10, and that's because you need to raise your land count. Below are some budget but good lands you should work with. Also, try not to work with too many tap lands, as they slow your game down.
Zagoth Triome: A bit pricy but it's fetchable or can be used to dig through your deck.
Finally, I will recommend my favorite cycle of lands, the pain lands. Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast, and their more expensive sibling Underground River enter untapped and add any of the two mana you need.
Just cut some basics to add these lands in. But don't cut too many basics! You need about 12 basics at minimum in a casual deck!
If you want to look any further into the clones strategy, take a look at EDHREC's page for clone strategies. (https://edhrec.com/themes/clones)
I like how you chose some interesting cards I have never seen before, and this deck looks fun to play. I hope these suggestions were of some help to you.
2 months ago
Everytime I look at ghoulcaller gissa, Im impressed by her ability to generate so many tokens so easily, even from her own 2/2 tokens.. I'm thinking about putting her in my Syr Konrad's For the Void deck, just to make even more tokens, but its quite hard to find any free spot at this moment :D
Anyway, I know this is a budged deck, more or less, but why Ur-Golem's Eye? I would rather go with Sol Ring/Bontu's Monument or any other mana-cheaper manarock.
Armillary Sphere - in Gisa deck, Burnished Hart seems like a better option to me. You can either sac hart to Gisa to make two tokens or sac it to itself to fetch two basic lands if needed.
Hymn to Tourach - This honestly doesnt feel like it belongs too much in here, since its no discard focused deck. I would replace it with Village Rites, since you have plenty of creatures and tokens to sacrifice + Village Rites is instant for only one , strictly better Altar's Reap. Or Vile Rebirth to get rid off some annoying card if you play against some graveyard decks + makes you a 2/2 zombie token at instant speed for only one .
I think you might also cut like 2 lands, since you have plenty of cheap creatures, with few mana rocks and rituals anyway. Adding Feed the Swarm might also be pretty good, just as another creature removal or finally a good enchantment removal in black. Life loss is minor, since most enchantments are not mana-expensive anyway. It also gets better, if you would have Vilis, Broker of Blood on board.
Some higher-budget possible upgrades:
Thornbite Staff - Next to Gisa, this is another card that gets more and more interesting the more I look at it :D If you equip it to Gisa, then sac some creature to Gisa's ability, you can untap Gisa and sac another creature again.
Phyrexian Altar - more expensive card to get, but it goes to so many combos. Especially to the previous one with Thornbite Staff, which can make infinite etb/die triggers just with only one 2/2 creature and Gisa equipped with staff with Phyrexian Altar on board. Then add some aristocrat effect like Bastion of Remembrance and the game is over.
Grave Titan - costs few dollars, since it got reprinted in Mystery Booster Boxes and is also great friend to any reanimator, zombie tribal or simply Gisa deck for the absurd amount of tokens it can generate. Also goes infinite with Nim Deathmantle and Ashnod's Altar.