Creature — Zombie Knight
When Murderous Rider is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, put it on the bottom of its owner's library.
(You may cast Murderous Rider from exile if you sent it on an adventure.)
Instant — Adventure
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. You lose 2 life.
(You may cast Swift End for from anywhere that you have the permission to cast this, then exile it on an adventure instead of putting it into your graveyard. When you have not chosen to cast Swift End, this card is treated only as Murderous Rider in whatever zone it is in.)
(Example scenarios for Swift End: You may cast this off of Melek, Izzet Paragon . You may not target this with Snapcaster Mage . Thalia, Guardian of Thraben increases the cost of this. Electrodominance requires X=3. If your opponent owns this and you cast it, only you may cast Murderous Rider when it goes on an adventure. You may cast this from a cascade spell if the spell has a cost greater than Murderous Rider's cost.)
|Have (2)||TrystonSpencer , gildan_bladeborn|
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Murderous Rider Discussion
1 day ago
I like the deck man. I am interested in playing something similar in pioneer. Not sure if I want to go Grixis for Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger because Ashiok is one of my favorite planeswalkers, or just Rakdos because it is my favorite guild.
Anyway, if this is something your interested in perfecting, I'd recommend Eliminate over Cast Down to allow for utility to hit planeswalkers as well. Because of your theme, you don't necessarily need to worry about big creatures attacking in since you can make them discard it anyway. Murderous Rider is another staple that you could use instead as a potential backup plan to beat face.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , but Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver can also be a powerful win condition for less mana. Granted, if they are not a creature deck it can hurt, but you still are exiling their deck AND hand with it. I would say it is worth playtesting.
Since you're blue I'd recommend some draw spells. I really like Chemister's Insight for this type of deck since you can discard a discard spell to its jumpstart if their hand is low, while refilling yours for more utility. There are plenty more to consider since it would be likely that you'd run out of a hand around the same time as your opponent without some sort of draw.
3 days ago
It also makes them more consistent.
Lack of consistency is an issue for this deck. It just can't always get the right pieces in hand, when it needs to.
Part of the issue is the amount of counter spells. You need more removal, to deal with cards that slip through, and get cast. Something like Murderous Rider and/or Heartless Act (although Hero's Downfall can be better than Murderous Rider with Dig Through Time ).
Fatal Push on its own can't deal with larger Creatures, or Planeswalkers.
I would swap the lone Swamp for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth as it is strictly better, and helps with colour fixing. Although you might then need to add another basic Swamp, so that Fabled Passage can find it.
At the moment Fabled Passage is fairly useless as you often have lots of Islands, and you only have one Swamp that you can find in your deck.
In my play testing Engulf the Shore wasn't great. I had a creature with Haste, and two equipment on the field. I just played that creature again on my turn, reattached the equipment, and hit as normal.
I see that you removed Negate which I consider one of the best counter spells in Pioneer. What was bad about it, for you?
Have you played this deck competitively? I would be interested to read some match reports to see whether or not I've been playing it wrong.
Hope that helps.
3 weeks ago
Alright, so since we've last chatted about my Anowon deck, I've overhauled it and even won a game with it! If you haven't had too many troubles with land drops then keep it, or else bump it up one or two more. Idk your budget so I'll just mention what I think works well so you can lmk otherwise.
I'd switch out
Talisman of Dominance
. Def take out
as you don't want to be feeding your graveyard so your meta doesn't take advantage of that.
can be replaced with
. Costs the same, but it'll draw you a card once you're caught up on mana.
Sword of Hearth and Home
is the new
Sword of the Animist
and oh man is it good. The blink plus the untapped land, chefs kiss.
Even though Anowon helps mill, I think the main focus is not to do so much milling and get your attacks in with the side effect being mill. Ironically enough, I won by decking someone after I used
Zareth San, the Trickster
to steal some crazy aura that buffed up my faerie rogue up by +20/+20 to KO the person before lol. If you take a look a mine, my theme seems to be "copying". I want to keep copying that next thing that'll push me forward.
Does your group have a more cEDH or just high powered vibe? Cause that'll change what I might recommend.
is already better than
bc counterspell is just a 1 for 1. Replace with
Pact of Negation
or if your group plays a lot of 1 drops, then
as that'll bring the salt. Keep a counter in hand just for that
Rise of the Dark Realms
Your removal could also use a boost. I would take out
Go for the Throat
Flip and throw in
. You could also see the removal I'm running and possibly switch the mentioned cards for those. You could possibly even add
but M.Rider is the better version of that card.
Board wipes are good, but why crux though? I can understand if that's just what you have, then do it up. If you can, replace with
or just cut it as you already have
which is pretty much the best board wipe. Kudos!
can take a hike, unless you're going to add
Narset, Parter of Veils
. If you're trying to be oppressive that is LOL. You have decent draw already and you wouldn't want to feed your opponent that Realms! If you need to replace then add
(might get destroyed) or
Into the Story
As far as creatures go, make them unblockable with Whispersilk Cloak like you mentioned a while ago. It works wonders. Look at my list and see what I'm running, bc there are so many options. I highly recommend Dauthi Voidwalker . If you're able to put a void counter on "rise" after milling everyone out a bunch, you can sac DV and use it against the card's owner and make them suffer! Because that's what Commander is all about, right? If you have any more questions feel free to ask! I'm always down to help and welcome all the advice people give me as well. Wreck your playgroup next time you get together!
3 weeks ago
I really, really don't like maindeck The Elderspell in the current meta. I'd consider the other cards mentioned, and even Murderous Rider or Hero's Downfall over them, personally. Having it as a dead draw in a deck wanting to manage its utility cards just hurts a ton against creature/aggro decks. It won't make or break the deck as a 1-of, but the times where it does hurt could be crippling.
Regarding JtMS ultimate; if you resolve a Jace and activate it enough to get close to ult, you're winning that game either way, so the upside of The Elderspell is more of a win-more function than a function that will win games you otherwise would've lost (in general). 9 times out of 10, you're going to brainstorm with him every turn, anyway, most likely.
With Counterspell in the deck, I'd still push away from too many colorless lands; I think it's worth either trimming on them, OR trimming on cards with UU. If you cut Shinobi for Ninja, too, you can probably afford to cut a land for the fourth Opt .
3 weeks ago
Hey, I'm here from my warrior deck as you've requested. Since I'm unsure of the format I'll presume this to be a casual build, if this is more of a competitive modern or other format of deck then my knowledge is definitely too limited to be of assistance here. As it is I used to have a lot of fun with casual zombies when I first got into MTG and Diregraf Captain was one of my favourite cards. I think zombies have always been at their best in either mono B or Dimir so my first suggestion would be to remove white from the build. Wayward Servant is a neat idea but I just don't see enough recursion here to fully utilize it unless the plan is getting 2 relentless dead and using them to recur each other on death but that seems a bit risky without some tutors. I really liked Gravedigger myself, he's a simple creature but that's kinda what zombies are, and getting a chain of gravediggers fishing each other out of the yard continuously while offering protection to anything else on your board that might be targeted is surprisingly powerful.
Likewise Time to Reflect is thematically cool but slightly narrow in scope for removal, and Mortify has been upgraded even in standard. Murderous Rider is not only great removal but also a zombie after, which means it also absorbs the bonuses you have littered throughout this deck to become a massive healing machine, and if you specifically want removal that can target enchantments Feed the Swarm does it for cheaper while even having a name that loosely matches the deck!
Next I'm noticing an Evolving Wilds in the mana base when Fabled Passage exists as a direct upgrade to it. Then again leaving white behind would mean you probably don't need either of them, which means there may be better options to streamline your mana base. I also notice a lot of colourless mana, which is perfectly good so long as you aren't hurting for your black and blue sources. I would tend to run a couple more swamps and islands myself just to make sure a T1 Choked Estuary has a target and perhaps replacing the white sources and Rogue's Passage with some more basics could work. Rogue's passage is nice moreso if you have large creatures that can get through for significant damage, generally as a zombie player you'll want to just have enough board advantage to simply swing in and spending 4 mana to sneak a single one of them through winds up being too expensive.
Hopefully this gives you some ideas, make sure to mark down what format you're playing in and give your deck tags to help people find it easier! Good luck, I'll be around if you need and if you're on the Discord server feel free to @ me with anything else that comes to mind
1 month ago
As more cards are added to the game of Magic, each bearing the modern design philosophy that urge them to be relevant in near to all formats, there comes the time for a player to edit their decks.
I shall confess that I primarily dwell in the realm of Commander, but this is an argument that can be made for all methods of casting spellls. (Mostly Commander)
Within each set is a card that is fated to find a home in a specific archetype, yet this entails that another piece of the machine is removed. I have a mono-black discard deck built around Chainer , but they have since printed Tinybones , Tergrid Flip, and Tourach . Each of these are more potent in the command zone, but Chainer is closer to my twisted heart and nocent at shackling my foes.
This especially pertains to the list below the commander, such as Murderous Rider over Hero's Downfall , Fierce Guardianship over Counterspell , Usher of the Fallen over Savannah Lions , and the list goes on for eternity. I enjoy adding asinine old artifacts to lists (see: Temporal Aperture and Phyrexian Portal ), yet felt as if I had no choice but to cut Moonring Mirror for Sevylun .
My query of this thread is when do players feel obliged to cut cards from lists despite any strong emotions towards maintaining their inclusion? When can the poignant piece of cardboard at last meet anguish? When does power eclipse pet?
Note: This is not a question of whether it is correct or not to snuff the asinine spell. Optimization is a separate topic than what is meant to be discussed here.
1 month ago
Hi. I love UB control archetype so I would like to give my 2 cents. So I'll hope that this helps/gives new ideas ^_^
I think your deck at the moment has unnecessary tap lands. Halimar Depths Vivid Marsh and Polluted Mire and Lonely Sandbar . I would recommend trying Mystic Sanctuary , Sunken Ruins , Field of Ruin , Fabled Passage or Castle Vantress . Karakas is also viable option even though it acts like colorless land in UB.
I also need to recommend Search for Azcanta Flip because it can win control mirrors almost by itself. Shark Typhoon and Omen of the Sea are my personal additions usually because both of them are 2 for 1 effects.
For sorcerys I have not been impressed with Yahenni's Expertise and I have played Shadows' Verdict and/or Dead of Winter instead of it. Also Bloodchief's Thirst and Baleful Mastery are cards that I can't stop recommending because they are just that good, the ability to get rid of an creature or planeswalker while being cheap removal if needed is just so good.
For creatures I will recommand Murderous Rider it is another hero's downfall with 2 for 1 thanks to adventure, I have never been impressed by Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir because he usually doesn't do enough for 5 mana. For planeswalkers if your meta has decks that have creatures Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver is surprisingly effective and talking about Ashiok Ashiok, Nightmare Muse is a real game closer because both +1 and -3 are extremely good and an army of 2/3 will win the game at some point.
For instants I will just write recommendations because there are so many: Archmage's Charm just does everything you would want, Commence the Endgame uncounterable threath + card draw and is especially good mirror breaker, Cryptic Command it also does everything, Disallow the stiffle can save games sometimes (like countering planeswalker "ultimate"), Erebos's Intervention I personally like this card very much because it can buy so much time against aggro decks, Hieroglyphic Illumination works as early game can trip and mid/late game divination, Spell Snare on draw this is amazing and usually the best cards are 2-3 costed so this usually hits something important and last but not least Force of Negation because it is another force. I would recommend little bit more targeted removal because edict effects are worse against decks that play mana elfs or other low impact 1 drops.
I personally wouldn't play your artifact package but because I haven't played with artifact package I won't say anything about that because I don't know how good it is.
These are just my recommendations and these aren't absolutes. Here is also list if you would like to compare different building choices
I hope that you found this helpful ^_^
xlebec on Life Force
1 month ago
I stand corrected about Murderous Rider so he's back in the list. My win rate dropped without him.