Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have "Sacrifice this permanent: Add (Black)(Black) to your mana pool."
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Basal Sliver Discussion
2 months ago
The reason behind this is that the sacrifice isn't part of the resolution of these abilities. If the sacrifice were for the effect of something else (say your opponent cast Tribute to Hunger and Basal Sliver was your only creature) you can certainly sac your Sliver out from under the spell with its own ability. When the sacrifice is a cost, though, it happens when you pay costs, while you're putting the spell or ability in the stack. By the time you or any other player can respond, the costs are already paid and the sacrificed creature is in the graveyard.
This also means that the opponent can't respond to you activating Basal Sliver's ability by killing it (with say Shock). No player can interrupt you paying a cost once you start casting/activating the spell/ability.
2 months ago
I'm aware that I can't sacrifice one creature to multiple separate abilities, but I was a bit confused about whether I can chose a creature to sacrifice from one ability, and then before that resolves sacrifice that very creature with a sacrifice ability IT has- kind of complicated so let me give an example.
If I have Yahenni, Undying Partisan, and Basal Sliver, can I for example, target Basal Sliver with Yaheeni's sac ability, and then also sacrifice Basal sliver with its own ability, giving me both outcomes? I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
2 months ago
There are definitely other combo lines that should play nice with this - Ashes of the Fallen would let you combo with Wild Cantor or Myr Moonvessel, Skirk Prospector/Universal Automaton would offer a second combo line for non-bombardment.
3 months ago
Syr Konrad, the Grim seems like a shoo-in here. You might like these too: Graveshifter , Maskwood Nexus , Deserted Temple , Vesuva , Crashing Drawbridge , Worn Powerstone , Basal Sliver , Blood Vassal , Overeager Apprentice
5 months ago
Hello again Doombeard1984 :)
Sedge Sliver was on and off the list quite a bit as it evolved. I like the synergy with Manaweft Sliver and Gemhide Sliver that you pointed out. Ultimately, I just cut Sedge Sliver to maintain curve. There isn't anything I'd pull right now at 3cmc to include that card. Maybe that will change in time.
Also, I built from bottom up to account for what colour I wanted to fetch in what order, and I generally want to dig for black before red, as black enables tutors, whereas red really only enables play late when I'm looking to combo off. I threw in the older Clot Sliver as regenerate redundancy for that very reason.
I'll definitely keep that in mind as I play though, and maybe dig for Hibernation Sliver or Basal Sliver if I see a nonbo in hand, as either would re-enable the regen at instant speed, and I'd have black on the table at that point if Crypt Sliver was in play. Thanks for the heads up!!
6 months ago
For mana curve you may want to consider enchantments that have lands produce more than 1 mana at a time. This would include, but not be limited to, Fertile Ground , Trace of Abundance and Utopia Sprawl . You won't have to wait for time counters to all disappear before deploying them to the battlefield. The mana base will also be more flexible.
Have you considered adding any combination Assault Formation , Doran, the Siege Tower (in case Harmonic Sliver backfires on you) and High Alert ? With them on the battlefield you can then sacrifice Dormant Sliver only if you have to. This will also allow for roughly the same combo with Morophon as you would with Realmwalker and Morophon.
If you choose to do this I would then recommend Teferi's Ageless Insight to boost your card draw.
8 months ago
ok then. So I would suggest (if your budget permits) a Sliver Legion. It is a strictly Sliver Coat of Arms. Speaking of CoA, I would probably actually cut it for the Sliver Legion. You could also look at things like Shared Animosity and Magma Sliver. I suggest dropping the Coat of Arms because the effect from this is symmetrical. I am a "greedy" player. If I bring an effect to the table, I want it for me only :) .
So, I don't want to be the guy to suggest infect... However, if you are going all out attack Triumph of the Hordes is a good finisher.
Metallic Sliver seems a little like filler. I tend to look at cards and say "If I pull this card, am I going to be happy". I don't see a time when you pull this that you are happy.
Brood Sliver could also be a really good include. Lots of extra Sliver tokens for your Hive. If this is something you want to lead into, you could look at Anointed Procession, Parallel Lives or Doubling Season as well. At the very expensive end of this, you could look at Sliver Queen. Her, plus any doubler and Basal Sliver means, infinite sliver tokens!!
I think some draw would be useful for you too. YOu never want to be running out of gas. Guardian Project and The Great Henge are possibilities. With the henge, remember, if your Commander is out, it will only cost due to the cost reducing effect.
Also, sometimes you just need to boardwipe. Either the board has become too crazy, or you are wanting to "turn sideways". If you got Sliver Hivelord out you can afford to destroy all your opponents creatures as you are rocking indestructible. Wrath of God, Damnation are one of a multitude of wraths. Also, everyones favorite, Cyclonic Rift can always open your opponent up for the end.
Hopefully that gives you some ideas. And of course
So, thats some ideas at least. Hope it gives you stuff to think about.
1 year ago
Doombeard1984, sorry for taking a little bit to get back to you. My life situation has changed dramatically in the past few months - my family and I moved to a different country - so I haven't been able to play as much Magic or be on Tappedout as much as I've used to in the past. I'm definitely doing my best to keep safe. Thanks for the kind words, I hope you and yours are doing well.
As for Survival of the Fittest, I must admit that i've never had the pleasure or displeasure of playing a deck that used it. But I think I see some synergy between it and Dregscape Sliver. Ideally, you could pitch some Slivers that you can recur onto the battlefield to form a combo - (i.e. Heart Sliver, Gemhide Sliver, Basal Sliver, and Sliver Queen) - you could avoid having to pay each creature's CMC due to the replacement cost of Unearth. As an added bonus, Unearth and SotF being activated abilites, counter magic would be at a loss most of the time, unless you're dealing with a meta running spells like Voidslime or Disallow.
Oh, and in case you're wondering "You may activate the unearth ability of a card in your graveyard no matter how it wound up in your graveyard." I'll admit that I needed to look up some rulings on Unearth, as I didn't fully understand the conditions for it to trigger.