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, Sacrifice Burnished Hart: Search your library for up to two basic land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.
seshiro_of_the_orochi on The woods is dead people
3 days ago
This looks pretty fun. It seems you are running Yedora more or less as a "generic green stompy". This is fine, and if you want to keep it that way, have fun.
There are still some cards you might like for Yedora specifically:
Burnished Hart and Dawntreader Elk are cards similar to Sakura-Tribe Elder. They cost a little more mana to use, but the synergy with your commander seems super worth-it.
The synergy between such cards and your commander become even when you include ways to bounce your own lands. Here are the ones I found:
Khalni Gem and Kazandu Stomper have it as a cost, so you need to do it if you want to use them. They have a rather high MV. I'm not too sure about them, but still wanted you to see them.
Storm Cauldron is a stax piece, so your playgroup might not enjoy it. It'll still pretty powerful here.
Nissa's Zendikon and Vastwood Zendikon are a lot of fun. See this land that was a creature? Now it's a another creature. You want to kill it? Sure, but now I have my creature back.
Slab Hammer is a nice way to turn a land bounce into damage.
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar is a gigantic beatstick with a recursion ability that, with Yedora, grants you value to grant you more value.
Guildless Commons is pretty self-explanatory.
As you're also playing Quirion Ranger, Scryb Ranger is basically a second copy of it.
Finally, have you considered some sacrifice outlets? This would allow you to save your creatures from spot removal that exiles them. Birthing Pod is expensive, but Momentous Fall, Greater Good and Evolutionary Leap provide some serious value.
multimedia on Urza’s legion
1 month ago
Hey, good start on a budget with what you have so far. Command Tower is a budget staple land for multicolored Commander decks and Arcane Signet is a budget staple mana rock.
Ramos, Dragon Engine can only be played in a five color deck using it as Commander or another five color Commander. It's activated ability has all five mana symbols and those symbols count toward it's color identity. Urza's color identity is only three colors Esper (black, white, blue). Because Urza doesn't have red and green that's why Ramos can't be played with Urza as Commander.
If you want aggro with Urza lets look at the beginning of the mana curve first, cards spots of 0-3 CMC only then we can look at the higher end of the mana curve. The first changes to consider is to remove all the nonartifact creatures and then later determine if they are worth a spot in your deck because they have abilities that help artifacts or Urza. I think you'll find that you don't need any of these creatures because artifact creatures can take their places. If you want to be aggro with Urza then you want to utilize Urza's artifact creature affinity to cast Urza quicker. To do this consistently Urza wants 0-2 CMC artifact creatures and some 3 CMC artifact creatures more than the rest.
- Cut: Ramos, Dragon Engine
- Cut: Slither Blade, Triton Shorestalker, Fetid Imp, Neurok Familiar
- Cut: Parish-Blade Trainee, Gixian Skullflayer, Gryff Rider
- Cut: Naiad of Hidden Coves, Whispering Wizard, Cryptic Serpent
Some of these creatures may be added back in later, most likely not, but for now lets build the creature base with only artifact creatures. For making upgrades lets look at best cards here with Urza and build around them? Arcbound Ravager and Portal to Phyrexia are the two best cards here with Urza because they're artifacts and they're abilities are more powerful compared to most other cards here. Ravager brings the aggro, but if aggro doesn't do it and you need more reach to win the game then Portal can do that. Lets start with Ravager and what makes it better with Urza? Modular and you have some here, more one drops can help toward Urza's artifact creature affinity and Ravager.
- Add: Ornithopter, Vault Skirge, Arcbound Javelineer, Arcbound Mouser, Swooping Lookout
- Add: Steel Overseer, Baleful Strix, Triarch Praetorian, Malcator's Watcher
- Add: Silas Renn, Seeker Adept, Armix, Filigree Thrasher, Scrapyard Recombiner
Steel Overseer adds to the +1/+1 counter strategy, it's powerful but only for artifact creatures and if trying to be aggro it's a good reason to play very few nonartifact creatures. Silas Renn, Seeker Adept goes well with Arcbound Ravager since with Ravager you want to sac artifacts and Silas lets you cast an artifact from your graveyard. It's deathtouch combined with Urza's menace makes it a creature who opponent is not going to block and lose two or more creatures blocking it. Baleful Strix, Triarch Praetorian, Malcator's Watcher are two drop artifact creatures who fly and who draw when enter the battlefield (ETB) or dies.
Some artifacts here are worse than others.
- Cut: Veteran's Powerblade, Spellbook
- Cut: Journeyer's Kite, Pristine Talisman
- Cut: Reconstructed Thopter, Burnished Hart
Think about limiting the amount of nonartifact spells to just the better ones you have here?
- Cut: Involuntary Cooldown, Weakstone's Subjugation, Curse of Echoes
- Cut: Disfigure, Curate, Scatter Ray, Cancel
Equipment that increases the equipped creature's power equal to the amount of artifacts you control really ups the aggro since then any little artifact creature can become huge which combined with menace can make it a great attacker. I see Silver Myr and it's good here since counts twice for Urza, artifact creature affinity and ramp. Consider adding more artifact creature mana dorks who can make colored mana?
- Add: Cranial Plating, Nettlecyst
- Add: Ornithopter of Paradise, Gold Myr, Leaden Myr
The budget Signets can help for ramp as well as color fixing which is really needed because the manabase here is pretty much all basic lands. Arcane Signet is a staple budget mana rock for ramp in Commander. Chromatic Lantern is fine for color fixing, but you're going to want more than that.
- Add: Arcane Signet
- Add: Azorius Signet, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet
Some nonartifact creatures at the beginning of the mana curve can really help aggro and Urza.
Losheel, Clockwork Scholar is powerful with artifact creatures when attacking is what you want to be doing especially Constructs. Your artifact creatures don't take damage in combat meaning that opponents will have a difficult time choosing to block since their blockers might die, but your creatures will be fine. Losheel is also repeatable draw, once on each players turn when an artifact creature ETB you draw this includes when a Construct is created by Urza if you didn't have an artifact creature ETB before your end step.
Sai, Master Thopterist can be a repeatable source of artifact creatures, Thopters, to be attackers or sac fodder. Emry, Lurker of the Loch is like Silas Renn, Seeker Adept more ways to cast artifacts from your graveyard is good with Arcbound Ravager and other sac outlets.
That's it for this comment, but if you're still interested I'll give advice about the high end of the mana curve here to take more advantage of aggro into mid game and Portal to Phyrexia late game as well as some budget land options for the manabase. Would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
Crow-Umbra on Take this, take this, TAKE THIS
1 month ago
Nice deck! I had a chance to play test Skyhunter Strike Force this past weekend, and recommend it as a replacement for Adriana, Captain of the Guard.
Zhentarim Bandit could also be a potential replacement for Burnished Hart.
Idk if you have had a chance to play this deck irl yet, but your curve is just a little high. If you've played it irl and haven't had much issue with it, then no worries. If you had some consistency hiccups in that regard, I'd recommend maybe cutting a few cards at the highest end of your curve for a bit more 2 mana rock ramp like Talisman of Conviction or Rakdos Signet.
Hope these suggestions are helpful.
Suns_Champion on Your Cheap Obscure Overperformers?
2 months ago
Bolt Bend. For 1 mana more and $60 less, you get a deflecting swat.
Humble Defector + "I'll give it to you if you give it right back to me." it's the offer people can't refuse. I rarely get fewer than 8 cards if he's played early enough.
Generator Servant. for when you want that big cmc commander 2 turns early, with haste.
Blood-Chin Fanatic in my Korlash, Heir to Blackblade deck. Absolutely blasts people and has become the main win-con.
Canoptek Wraith, the new and second copy of Burnished Hart, another cheap favorite.
Hostile Negotiations. If you're messing with your yard at all, this is like drawing 6 cards.
Fraying Line. Weird little board wipe, can be slow unless you flash it in before your turn...
Medomai's Prophecy. solid lil value engine, draw to cards for casting what you would have anyway, your commander.
Bestial Fury. on anything that wants to deal combat damage, this card presents a tricky choice to your opponents.
Frosto on Garna, Bloodfist of Keld
2 months ago
Vindictive Vampire,Bastion of Remembrance,Falkenrath Noble,Blood Artist,Hellrider,Kardur, Doomscourgeand there is alsoImpact Tremorsas extra damage effects.Midnight Reaper,Morbid Opportunist,Skullclampas extra card draw.Legion Warboss,Siege-Gang Commander,Tilonalli's Summoner,Loyal Apprenticeas token generators.Goblin Wardriver,Ogre Battledriver,Hero of Oxid Ridge,First Day of Classas pump effects.Swiftfoot Boots,Lightning GreavesandKaya's Ghostform. Some ramp such asWayfarer's BaubleandBurnished Hart.
IllWarriors on Kura, Secret Tron EDH
3 months ago
Profet93, you've got a lot of good points, here are my thoughts...
I see your point with my inclusion of Thought Vessel and I would agree something like Heart Warden would be a good swap. In my experience with playing this deck so far, I've actually enjoyed having Thought Vessel as well as Reliquary Tower. When to comes to tutoring for lands, there are usually some more important hits before I would go for the Tower. The tron lands are usually first, but then if I do get another chance to search I'll go for some more explosive plays since I'm usually looking for something like Eye of Ugin, Gaea's Cradle, or Sanctum of Ugin to really pop off. In the games where I have been able to draw a ton of cards past hand size, it's been nice to have that redundancy. That being said, I can see myself playing around with swapping it for something more useful in the future.
You're totally right about Tempt with Discovery. However, in my current meta we tend not to run loads of LD. It's just not really how we like to play. In the few games where that has come up, I've just had to politics my way aroud it. It's got a lot of potential for explosive turns, but should my meta shift to feature more LD I can easily see myself swapping it out.
Yup, I think I'll take you up on the Skyshroud Claim. Burnished Hart is a card I like to throw into a lot of decks, but after play testing a bit, it's felt pretty slow since it takes 6 mana total to get the effect.
I like the idea of Skullclamp. I did run Bequeathal, and Skullclamp feels like a repeatable version of that. I think it's definitely something I'll consider freeing up space for.
Eternal Witness should've been in this deck a while ago. I liked the lower cost of Regrowth but I like the value of having another body on the field while I'm setting up or trying to re-establish a foothold in the game, so I'm definitely swapping that out.
Lurking Predators has probably led to the most explosive and fun games this deck has had. You're totally right that I won't get cast triggers, but honestly those have been mostly negligible once Predators has been out for a turn cycle. Hitting any of the titans or something like Blightsteel Colossus most of the time is enough to close out the game, especially if you hit multiple.
I'm always curious as to what others might cut, so I'm all ears.
Land count was something I was worried about with such a high curve, but so far that hasn't been much of an issue. It really comes down to taking the right hand and usually you're just fine. Most the time, once you hit 5 mana and can get Kura, the Boundless Sky out, you're all set. It feels a little low especially when I do run cards like Exploration, but my intention behind that was to be able to get tron lands out faster once they're in hand, and not necessarily to hit a land drop every turn.
I don't run fetchlands because I just don't want to. Would it make the deck better? Absolutely. It's another one of those situations where I know it would improve the deck, so I'm intentionally trying to balance the deck from being too good. The intent behind this deck is to be explosive and play big bombs, but not be a pubstomper. Because of that, I'm making sure to carefully balance how fast the deck can play.
I love Scapeshift! I know I considered it back when I made the deck but it must've slipped my mind. It's a definite candidate, especially as a good swap for Tempt with Discovery.
Thanks for your feedback! I really enjoyed reading all of your thoughts!
Crow-Umbra on Mishra, Claimed by Gix
3 months ago
If you really want to lean into the group slug element, especially since you already have Purphoros, I'd recommend adding:
Since this is an aggro deck, the following would also be pretty helpful:
- Ardoz, Cobbler of War - Ogre Battledriver minus the Haste anthem
- Fervor - Haste anthem so all of your creatures can swing away
- Professional Face-Breaker - Since this triggers for each opponent you deal combat damage to, you could get a treasure for each opponent you deal combat damage to, and also has the upside of turning that into more card advantage.
- Ogre Battledriver - Another Haste anthem that will also buff up your tokens that ETB tapped and attacking
- Brazen Cannonade - Puts your opponents in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" for blocking your smaller creatures, and also grants some card advantage.
Lastly, I'd recommend adding a bit more ramp to your deck. You could swap out Burnished Hart for Talisman of Indulgence or another two mana rock. Maybe 1-2 creature slots could also be swapped to rocks.
Hope these suggestions are helpful. I love aggro and aristocrats strategies.
multimedia on The Best Urza
3 months ago
Hey, well done work in progress for your first Commander deck on a budget. Good card sense upgrading the precon.
For the manabase consider upgrades of the Pain lands?
The Pain lands have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets, making them the least expensive right now. Now is the best time to get them since they will only increase in price as time goes on. Tyrite Sanctum is a nice budget utility land especially with The Flesh is Weak.
I'm playing Urza on a low budget and these are some cards, most less than $2, that I've found to be helpful.
- Ornithopter of Paradise: artifact creature for ramp.
- The Flesh is Weak: make Urza and all other creatures you control at the time an artifact. -1/-1 can wreck opponent's nonThopter token strategies who can be blockers against Constructs. Tyrite Sanctum makes it so you don't have to control nonartifact legendary creatures including Urza when you play Weak since it can put a +1/+1 counter on any legendary creature you control turns after to make it an artifact.
- Liquimetal Torque: mana rock for ramp or make Urza or any other nonland permanent an artifact. Pair with Master Transmuter to bounce any nonland permanent.
- Soundwave, Sonic Spy Flip: new Transformers card that's good in multiplayer Commander, no mana cost to cast your choice of opponent's instant or sorcery. Constructs make it consistent to trigger with a high mana value and Soundwave, Superior Captain can be a repeatable source of artifacts.
- Sculpting Steel: good in multiplayer Commander because it can be any artifact on the battlefield and it can change with Master Transmuter bounce.
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher: because of menace it can be repeatable opponent creature removal, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar helps a lot too.
Being able to make Urza an artifact can make Urza a threat with menace to do Commander damage especially with Cranial Plating. Urza surviving nonartifact creature board wipes can give you a huge advantage. Making other nonartifact creatures an artifact is good too especially Padeem, Consul of Innovation for much more protection.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Orzhov Basilica, Dimir Aqueduct, Azorius Chancery, Skycloud Expanse
- Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion
- Gingerbrute, Burnished Hart
- Chief of the Foundry
Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else. You don't really need them since you'll have plenty of better beaters, Constructs, who don't cost mana. Burnished Hart is slow for ramp. Chief of the Foundry is subpar for an anthem effect, it's a lesser Master of Etherium.
Good luck with your deck.
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