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Legendary Planeswalker — Sorin
+2: Sorin Markov deals 2 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker and you gain 2 life.
-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10.
-7: You control target player during that player's next turn.
TypicalTimmy on A Discussion of Staples
6 days ago
We all know that certain cards are staples in this format, such as Sol Ring and Mana Crypt if it is affordable. However staples also have a little bit of fluidity in that they have color restrictions. If you are playing a deck that contains and you are not playing Necropotence, you are running decidedly below your potential.
Unfortunately cards such as Crypt and Potence are very expensive, so not all players can have them.
In this thread, I'm not so much focused on the financial aspect, but the physical aspect.
I'd like to ask, what makes a staple? Now yes, casual play and competitive play are two different beasts. Competitive decks will be leagues behind if they lack specific cards, whereas casual decks will be slightly hindered but not really all that far off. Especially if there is a budget the friends adhere to.
Let's take for example Lightning Bolt. It is both financially cheap and resourcefully cheap as well. It is instant speed and works wonders as removal. Unfortunately, in many cases, it doesn't serve a great enough impact to win the game. Yes it can take down something such as a Thassa's Oracle or bolt a Sorin Markov so the opponent can't -3 you immediately. However, in the majority of plays, it serves as little more than a bump in the road to victory. Meanwhile, a card such as Path to Exile sees far fewer targets, but it'll remove that massive gargantuan 15/15 Ramos, Dragon Engine or Edgar Markov. So while Path has fewer total available targets then Bolt, it's impact is far greater and more disruptive.
- (Although I prefer Swords to Plowshares. I'd rather give my opponent some life that will be gone in a turn or two, then a land of their choosing that they keep for the rest of the game.)
Similarly, a really good card in terms of mechanics is Scour from Existence. What hinders it is the mana value of . If it cost less, I'd expect to see it slotted into nearly every deck. The same applies to All is Dust. Yes, Wrath of God and Damnation are superior in that they cost less, however they also do less and are restrained to their own colors.
Mechanics, timing, color restrictions... These all play a role in what becomes a staple, and what doesn't.
So I'm curious, what are some staples across EDH that people know of, and do you have any opinions on what cards SHOULD be staples, that currently aren't?
mcmurtryj on [EDH] Liesa Lifegain
3 months ago
I love this! I am a huge fan of Orzhov's life-gain and life-drain strategies and Liesa is perfect for that. I like the direction you took the deck.
Have you thought about including Sorin Markov? I believe he was first printed in Zendikar and would fit very well with the deck strategy
Also Esper Sentinel is a great addition when you get the extra funds to include it!
MilesHiles on Atraxa walks all over You
5 months ago
It really depends on how you've been seeing your deck play out and personal preference BUT I would agree that Sorin Markov is much more difficult to play in a 4 color deck. Additionally, he's only specifically useful for knocking one person (almost) out of the game when, in comparison, Aminatou, the Fateshifter is going to help facilitate an infinite combo
OberstHati on Atraxa walks all over You
5 months ago
Well Sorin, Grim Nemesis is a Must, Sorin Markovs might be Hard to reach, his ultimate is good though, Sorin, Solemn Visitor is weaker but can enter early and create a Body,… I guess the small 1 is the Bettler cut?
lcarl3035 on Tresserhorn’s Awesome Squad of Cool People
5 months ago
Cool deck idea. Have you considered Rogue's Passage to make your commander unblockable for a turn? It's pretty devastating with Sorin Markov on the battlefield.
LetoTheSecond on Atraxas Best Friends
5 months ago
MilesHiles, thank you for the suggestions! Doubling Season is definitely a strong inclusion. I rarely seem to draw it, but it's a great enabler for getting to a win con.
I've been toying around with removing Sorin Markov for the very reason you gave. Both your suggestions are good replacements, I may swap it out for Liliana Vess.
Interestingly, Kiora, the Crashing Wave seems to ult oddly frequently for me! Her damage negation in combination with some other early game stax makes her a good early drop.
77hi77 on I BEG YOUR [email protected] PARDON??!!! - Razaketh
6 months ago
GameDragon111 thanks for that! I looked at Ob Nixilis, Unshackled for how he powers up with a sacrifice deck, but yeah that'd be a great finisher with Sorin Markov.
As for Liliana's Contract, you're right. I had it in there for a while as the alternate wincon, but I took it out to make space for the land removal. I'll fit it in again, it's too powerful not to.
MilesHiles on Atraxas Best Friends
6 months ago
Hey! Cool deck! I have a Superfriends Atraxa deck as well and it is easily one of my favorites. In play testing, I found that trying to focus more on Walkers that can use their ults immediately when a Doubling Season is out, is a great way to focus the deck consistency. Sorin Markov is one example of this that's actually shown to be lack luster since you can only target one person at the table with it. Liliana Vess and Jace Beleren are great for card advantage since Lili is a Vampiric Tutor on a stick and Jace will let you draw free cards. Kiora, the Crashing Wave is also a great card but you'll almost never use her ult when you want to
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